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Man and I had just got 6 month of premium time so I could get 3 man platoons.
"Its reload time is 6.67 - compared to the the E50M's 6.25"That is not correct, the reload is actually 7.5ish seconds. You posted the RPM limits which make your post seem like the E50M is a faster firing tank... which is not true at all. Your post should say: Its rounds per minute is 6.67 - compared to the the E50M's 6.25The LEO out damages the E50M, otherwise good article.
I think the leopard 1 will be just fine. with the proliferation of "gold" rounds, armor doesnt mean as much as it did compared to pre- silver for premium ammo days
it's a fun game except for all the verbal abuse players give one another in game and on the forums.that and, if you ever have a problem don't submit a ticket, Wargaming staff are never helpful -- the only thing they're quick to do is lock forum threads and hand out warnings of bans for people asking about faulty game mechanics or "lost" payments...
Leopard 1 is one sick tank.It is like driving light tank with HP of medium and most awesom gun you can have.Gun is so good that all you need to do is stop shoot and move,aiming is so fast that stop part is like a bit over second.Next great thing is that tank is so fast and agile ,you dont need armor at all.Reverse speed of that tank is faster then forward speed of most tier 10 tanks.But main feature of new german medium line is gun depression.New tier 8 german medium have -10 gun depression and awesom gun for that tier.Same concept as leopard ,low profile ,angled thin armor ,but great agility.Same is for tier 9 and leopard ,only they have -9 gun depression.Who ever played german line will say that thing they miss the most is gun depression.That part of german tree was so frustrating even more when they changed maps,that have ton of hils,holes and terrain features that hurt german crap depression.That part is sole reason why top players choose american tanks in pubs ,cause they are (were ) kings of gun depression.I think this tier 10 will send batchat to garage ,cause this one does all that french tank do,but with much more agility ( who ever was driving french tank knows how bad that tank turns),better gun ,better gun depression,and even we can say better armor since gun mantle on Leopard can bounce normal shells easy.
You're correct, I was looking at my own E50M with vents and a rammer, with a crew using BIA. I'll try and get an edit.
Pretty much all the new German tanks other than the VK2001 (which no one cares about) are amazing. The scout panther is in particular a rapeboat, as is the Leopard.
Vickers Mk1 MBT could be a decent Tier 8 Premium for the British.

Whats on the menu?

8.5 is an interesting content update. It doesn't bring any new countries or entire tech trees, but instead fleshes out existing content while adding a number of tanks to existing trees. German fans should be extremely pleased with this, as it further develops the existing Henschel, Porsche, and Daimler Benz tank trees by adding in some important prototypes and designs from late 40s all the way through to the 1960s.

Also coming soon are bug fixes, map revisions, a new map, two new Premium Tanks, new Soviet light Tanks, a notable buff, and something that could cause people with Premium accounts to get extremely upset!!

Changes to Premium Accounts

From the patch notes themselves:

  • Premium consumables (med kits, repair kits, etc.) are now available for credits (matching the gold/credits exchange rate similar to that of premium shells)
  • The creation of platoons for three players is now available for non-premium accounts
  • The creation of tank companies is now available for non-premium accounts

This is bound to raise the question about the value of a Premium account. Maybe Wargaming will see fit to lower the cost or give Premium account holders additional perks.

New German Tanks and Tech Tree changes

With the addition of new tanks comes changes to the Tech tree. With the VK2801 scout moved to Tier VI in 8.4, the line will now lead to the Aufklärungspanzer Panther at Tier VII, the Indien Panzer at Tier VIII, ,the Leopard Prototype at Tier IX, and the Leopard 1 at Tier X. Parallel to this and uniting at the Tier VIII Indien Panzer are the Daimler Benz tanks, which includes the VK3001DB at Tier VI and the VK3002DB at Tier VII. Slotted in at Tier IV next to the PzIII is the VK2001D, which can be research from the PzIIG and leads to the Pz III/IV hybrid.

While there are still plenty more production tanks that could be added, like the Stug IV, these additions bring some closure to the existing Medium and Heavy tank trees from a German development perspective. The new Tech tree looks like this:

VK 2001D - Tier IV Medium

This Daimler Benz project existed between 1939 and 1941 and was DB's attempt at building a standard Medium tank for the Heer. The prototype was tested under combat conditions in the USSR, but was found to be wanting, as it contained serious faults and obsolete design elements. The project was cancelled as a result. The VK2001D is accessed through the PzIIG and leads to the PzIII/IV.

VK 3001D -Tier VI Medium

This tank was an answer to the requirement for a new 30-ton tank to be ready by 1942. The VK3001D is more or less a copy of the T34/76, but using German interlocking armoured plate and a 75mm KwK L/70 gun. The project was cancelled, but lived on when redesigned to meet the VK3002 requirement. This later project was cancelled as well when put in competition with the MAN designed VK3002, more famously known as is final designation: Sd. Kfz. 171 Panzerkampfwagen V Panther. This tank may be a good Medium Tank Company contender, as it packs a powerful gun and sloped armour. The VK3001D is accessed from the PzIII/IV and leads to the VK3002D.

Aufklärungspanzer Panther - Tier VII Light

Essentially a Panther with a turret from a Leopard scout, this fast, heavy Recon vehicle was designed to be easily produced and highly mobile. However, it was never more than a concept. Stats wise, it's nothing special: A fast Panther, with the same hull armour and armed with the KwK 41 L/58. While it's technically a Light tank, which has certain benefits under the camouflage mechanics, the Panther's hull is so large it may not count for very much.

This tank is available from the VK2801 and leads to the Indien Panzer.

Indien Panzer - Tier VIII Medium

This tank dates from the 1950s and was a product of Daimler Benz, and Zahnradfabrik AG, and Porsche at the request of the Indian Government. Although the project was cancelled, its history makes for interesting reading. India - as a newly independent nation with a revolutionary China and aggressive Pakistan on its borders - needed to bolster its armed forces, so it put out a tender for a simple 40-ton tank design it could produce locally.

India didn't want to join the Warsaw pact, which ruled out use of Soviet designed tanks (although later on it would purchase Soviet produced equipment), so had to rely on western designs. The Germans put forward the Indien Panzer, and the British showcased the Vickers Mk1 MBT. The Indien Panzer didn't win the contract; it was deemed to complicated to be produced by locally by Tata. The MBT MK1 won, which raises an interesting and obvious question: Will we see the MBT MK1 in the future?

As this is a Tier VIII, it is eligible for Champion company battles. Let's look at the stats:

  • Hitpoints: 1300
  • Maximum Weight 40 Tons
  • Engine Power: 630
  • Maximum Speed 50kph
  • Track Traverse: 34 degrees per second
  • Hull armour 90/90/45
  • Turret Armour
  • 90/90/45
  • View Range 380

9cm KWK 54:

  • Reload 8-10 seconds
  • Penetration 212/259/45
  • Damage 240/240/45
  • Accuracy 0.32-0.34
  • Aim time 2.3-2.9

From this we can see that, at least from these stats from the test server, it fits in well with the Tier VIII Mediums. However, what the stats don't tell you is the angle of the armour, which looks like it will deflect incoming shots effectively.

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