Wardecs Complicate Ev0ke Sov Handover

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You mean fix the game for ALL players? Oh, probably till EVE shuts down. The CFC is a large entity and brings ATTENTION quickly to issues. Get over it.
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It's been a few days since EN24 leaked.
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Alright, that surprises even me. Wow.
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https://forums.eveonline.com/d...Still controlling your game
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Its the timing that annoys me. Did CCP think Wardecs were working fine? or did they think that they would before they were "changed"?
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In this case, it's literally 'not thinking'. A membercorp CEO asked one of our logistics directors - one of the three people able to declare a war in GSF - to wardec; the logistics director, unaware/uncaring about the changes to wardec mechanics, mashed butan unthinkingly. Prior to this expansion, we'd wardec for membercorps to clear out hisec towers or the like without investigating it. Whoops!
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The newly minted Goon Bribery Division [UNZIP] is working wonders!
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This is a buff for DBRB and CFC they love shoot structures(the only thing they can do)
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From one satisfied Dec Shield customer: Now the Goons are involved CCP might actually listen when Zerg Overmind brings it up again to them :)
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Can someone please make a copy of the DecShield wars and transfer them all to Goons?It will make shooting blues so much easier given that a lot of them will be war targets.
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It doesn't help that this most recent debacle brought up yet another issue with the new wardec system making the sov system even more of a hassle and a half.
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Fire up your tinfoil factory. A whole bunch of nerds are about to start donning hats.
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All about visibility. I'm glad it happened to the Goons for this reason, even though the mechanic is shitty broken and I don't wish it on anyone.One of our member corps had to reform because of this -- really irritating and depressing fir them. Lost their whole killboard.
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Isn't first among equals a vassalage term? Because basically, 0.0 politics IS space-vassalage.
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Mittens come on though man, cant you step back for a second and really put yourself in our [Other Alli`s usually vs GSF] shoes.We have problems with the way SOV works in general, Little guys can no longer hold any space if a monster likd CFC wants to take your space, there is no tactical advantages like RL where you can hold a "Narrow Pass" where a huge forces cant use its numbers to do so, they would have to fight the smaller force at a smaller number but just have more re-inforcements to do so. To me this is a broken mechanic not to have this in place somewhere in Eve, im not saying all places but some places at least.Now imagine from the wardeccers side making you have o be rich to wardec member corps like Reddit because there numbers.We normal guys complain and nothing is done, from the outside it seems like you run into a problem in the mechanics and boom, its instantly a stupid mechanic that needs to be fixxed now.This is one of the reasons half Eve hates GSF not because your cocky or arrogant we actually secretly like it, but because we see, just as you did with BoB a leaning towards the game changing for you, but others problems being "Working as intended.Can you empathize? Seriously I dont doubt its a stupid mechanic, but so is 35k members being able to use the same JB network with 0 thats ZERO consequences.Im being as open minded as I can tell me and us non GSF guys how this differs, and why it should be changed right away.In most peoples view we hear all the time from CFC members "Numbers is part of the game" the same could be said about this, and IMO they both make about as much sense.I dont wanna get banned again for opposing beliefs you guys have, so im asking in as nuetral way as I can, why is this more important than stopping all of Eve to become 3 major Blocks and 80% of 00 sec not to have anyfighting? How is this as stupid as not taking all Tec moons and literally using a Random num Generator and spreading the Tec from Venal to Stain equally.That change would be simple and not allow a ISK faucet to be concentrated in one area. Seems alot more important IMO than this problem. Seriously do you agree the Tec moon problem is the same as BoB`s Dyspro before it?Alot of people would say deal with it its Eve, in response to your problem of Wardec transferring, and alot of us [most of Eve would like there to be fighting all over for Tec in every corner of the map. So dont you think there are more pressing matters? And if this gets fixed wont it look like old BoB getting favors done quickly?Not trying to get banned or be a smartass, just seriously want to know the way you are thinking about this.Typed from phone sorry for typos
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Now that they have pressure from GSF, I dont think long.
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It's kind of hard to take seriously any post that tries to compare GSF to BoB, given the vast structural differences, attitudes, and behavior. Disagreeing with 'blobbing' is normal and I don't see a problem with that opinion - I disagree with it, but it's not Glenn Beck CIA shit.I've always supported a tech nerf, and been repeatedly on the record that I think that tech alchemy should be implemented while I was on the CSM, along with changing alliance income everywhere so it's bottom-up instead of top-down. That's why your posting seems... weird. You haven't done your research on the people you're 'disagreeing' with. GOONS = BOB, MITTANI HAS TECH SO HE LIKES TECH, etc.I don't really give a crap about wardecs, in this case it was just a weird coincidence that set off a bunch of conspiracy rambling. To me, the biggest issue in EVE right now is the imbalance between risk and reward, and the top-down income system in null. Income should come from making line members richer and taxing them, not trickling down from moon goo in an alliance wallet controlled by three people.
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The best thing is when we accidentally cap the station wrong and we have to shoot it all over.

The transfer of sovereignty in the most vital areas of Vale of the Silent has been complicated by a war declared by Goonswarm Federation, which was then locked into that war declaration by the other party. To work around the problem, GSF has enlisted neutral alt corps, as well as CFC member alliances Gentlemen's Agreement <GENTS> and C0NVICTED <AIF>, to help manage the transfer of sovereignty in the region.

To get more insight into the nature of the problem, we spoke to an expert on wardec mechanics. "Current wardec mechanics loopholes are preventing alliances with outgoing wars from using sov transfer corps," said The Zerg Overmind, CEO of Dec Shield, an alliance designed to test the limits of the war declaration system. Dec Shield's latest accomplishment is to trap a full 1% of the EVE player base in permanent, irrevocable wardecs. "Because these alliances can be unwillingly and permanently locked into these wars, any sov transfer corps that drop from their alliance to join another will also be permanently locked in these outgoing wars. Any corp locked in an outgoing war is forbidden by game mechanics from joining another alliance. Hence, Goonswarm can no longer ever use sov transfer corps, ever again."

This poses a significant problem for an alliance which leads a major coalition. GSF must frequently transfer sovereignty to other CFC members as a part of trades and division of spoils. In the absence of sovereignty transfer capabilities, Goonswarm must now actually shoot stations to flip them if it wishes to assume control of station systems from allies. This adds an interminable grind to the already notoriously clunky sov transfer process. 

The hijinks of Dec Shield have already put pressure on CCP to change the wardec system, which previously was said in both GM communications and publically to be functioning as intended. Coalition members hope that a sovereignty transfer mechanic of some kind could be added in a future patch, or at the very least a fix be engineered for the wardec system. Even if this occurs, it is likely far too late to ensure that the changes arrive in Retribution. As a result, the CFC will be unable to leverage GSF's logistics directorate to assist in sov transfers directly, making life rather more complicated - and tedious - for the coalition in the coming months.

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Kesper North is a humble line member in GoonSwarm Federation. His passions in EVE are nullsec politics and solo PVP. He gladly accepts donations of Orthruses. Twitter: @KesperNorth