Talocan Divided

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the link for the killboard just takes me back to the themittani homepage btw.Nice article though, quite impressive that they managed to keep the alliance together for 2 years.
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Breaking News!!! : Jita is not the best place to run a wormhole alliance from
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Upholders, man your battle stations! :O
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Confirmed. :-) And cheaper POS fuel for all wormholers!
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buthurt much ?
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No need for that.
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must... make... an... impact... on game2 years later... oh,wait this is a game and herding cats is not the objective.
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lol truer words, Vegas. you always made me smile.
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My apologies. I accidentally snipped it during editing.
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Providing a transcript of the forum post screenshot would be greatly appreciated, or make a new copy of the image that's a PNG instead of a heavily compressed JPG since it's mostly comprised of 3 colours.
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Um, EG Corp is in Mass Overload.
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Lol. You must not have talked to anyone in EG Corp...Nice try though, next time find something truthful and witty to say. If that's possible.
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Did you mean exceptforthefacthurt much, or butThurt much? Lol, if it was the latter, no, but I think your mom's is about now ;)
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Incindir, no worries, was just mentioning it as a correction :) Thanks for the article...well written.
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Yeah, I've been talking to EG Corp members and they haven't had good things to say.
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Hey I'm just basing this off what EG dudes have said in my comms, and from the forum screens they share. Maybe they're all lying to everyone for reasons I've yet to grasp. Maybe they are trying to get some easy fights?Seriously though, it sounds kinda like being in a sovnull alliance more than a wh group.
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I honestly have no idea whom you're talking to then. Many pilots in EG Corp (and the alliance) actually have trouble replacing their ships because they're always following pew over PVE.
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Well that's part of what I've heard. When I said competent in my original comment, I probably should have said active, self-supporting PvP pilots. PvE players are making isk while the PvP players do not; thus the PvP players start loggin in less and miss chances at PvE; now w/o income PvP players only want to fly with minimal risk and either blob or log off.
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PVE/PVP is always a delicate balance to maintain. Time will tell. Both of the alliance killboards have been decent so far.
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I guess now that the structure grind is over for the new "Upholders" Alliance, their true net worth is shown. FAIL KB.
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I looked at the main corp prior to the creation of the alliance....Not any real PvP experience. High efficiency due to structure grind. Was thinking about joining but with the billion isk losses on the KB makes me want to pass. No real PvP experience there, seems just like a lot of propaganda/hype.
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they look alright
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Mittani are you becoming BIASED? The kill board link doesn't work????? I looked at their kill board link, in game, and they are at 50% efficiency. This isn't quite in line with what your article says.
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Here is your tinfoil hat, good sir. I was one of the people the article writer interviewed, and I pointed him to the killboard in question because there was a lot more green on it at that time. Killboards go up and down, remember.Sheesh.
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50% efficiency with billions in loses. Doesn't look good. Guess that is why the link is not working. Terrible.
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So you base your opinion off of Alliance KB less than a week old?
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*shrug* Pot, meet kettle.
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Understand the saying, but not the context you are using it in. When in Rome Ron Burgandy. LOL. WTF are you talking about.

Talocan United Disbands

On Wednesday the 22nd, Nathan Jameson made this post on the Eve Online Wormhole sub-forum thread announcing the impending dissolution of Talocan United.

Talocan United was the largest W-space alliance in New Eden; one which Nathan Jameson essentially built from scratch out of a C4. They had hundreds of active pilots spread out across several wormholes. Early on Jameson adopted a healthy recruitment policy that was the ultimate reason for Talocan's growth and success, and over the last two years Jameson and his directorate were able to add more corporations, expanding into multiple wormholes spread across every timezone in the process. With the addition of a slick, informative, and helpful website, Talocan United became a name to rival some of the older and more aggressive W-space entities. Nathan's website still offers guides and videos on how to do just about anything someone would want to do in W-space, thus remaining a good source of information for the casually curious and even experienced wormhole pilots.

As seen through Dotlan, Talocan United has shed the majority of its corporations and pilots since the. Jameson has stated that he is holding onto the corp keys for now and has no plans to reincarnate Talocan United.

I was unable to track down exactly where everyone went or what they planned on doing. However, I was able to ascertain that Nathan Jameson joined a new C5 based alliance called Mass Overload, and started up a one-man POS fuel cooperative for wormhole residents. He stated to me in an eve-mail that he has shed the mantle of leadership for now and is content to simply fly as a line member. As you can see, Skyfighters [LSKYL], Grumpy Bastards [GRUBA], and EG Corp [EGCOR] are already operating out of the same system. Chris elliot is the new corporate lead, and was able to help me clarify some of the details regarding Mass Overload's side of the story.

I asked Jameson if he knew where the bulk of Talocan United went off to, and if he knew anyone that I could speak with in order to find out more details. He referred me to Lenier Chenal, who informed me that Saiph Industries [SAIPH], Nobody Expects The Spanish Inquisition [NE5I], Dark Matter-Industries [DKMR], Crown of Swords [CRWND], and 4U Services [4USI] moved into a new alliance called Upholders. Upholders is more of a generalist alliance, and they cover more than just wormhole activities. Lenier did say, though, that all wormhole corporations would remain active in W-space, rather than moving out. There also seems to be a bit of history within Upholders, as both Lenier and Jameson said that there is a common heritage in the old SRS Alliance. Boasting around 220 members, the Upholders seem primed and ready to go. By the looks of their killboard - it's nice and green - they have resumed the business of blowing up ships hand over fist.

On a personal note, I’d just like to say that I’m more than a little sad to see Talocan United go. However, I really can't think of a better way that Jameson could have handled this, and I think in the long run that W-space will be getting more people to shoot at if Mass Overload and Upholders stick around.

Thanks for the fights, and good luck to you in your future endeavors!

Adhocrat. Pinko Internet Spaceship Communist. Holy Oracle of Bob the God of Wormholes. Mixologist and Amateur Blacksmith. "The Strong shall Rule the Weak. And the Clever shall Rule them all." ~ Boyd Rice.