Snuff Box in Back to Back Capital Fights

balls of steel for dropping caps onto PL..............not very smart balls but balls of steel nonetheless. much more than i can say for the risk PL is willing to take
they didnt drop on pl...
What else would you call dropping 15 Dreads on a PL Supercarrier?
First off, for the second fight after the dread drop, the bait was a FWEDDIT Archon (Arx Sheep). We only engaged it because we flubbed our dread jump-out and they managed to pin down a Moros, requiring us to bring back all of our forces to save it.You should get your facts straight.
Gets welped... Typical Boat fleet. I dont know why goons keep him on hes a danger to everyone he flies with...
Balls of steel snuff box as always.
Probably because he destroys FAR more than he ever welps..
Props to snuff box for teaching goons pvp
you are of course correct. nobody should attack PL, and if they accidentally find themselves engages in player verses player activities they should only fly fully insured tech level one spaceships equipped with the less effective but isk efficent civilian modules. At least that way the post-fight bitterness and recrimination is offset by the whole fleet costing less than 30 million space ISKs.
Well hes also a raging misogynist which doesnt help much
The second report is completely wrong. Look at Poetic's post to figure out what actually happened: http://poeticstanziel.blogspot...
Too bad that's not correct.
lol BB has DBRB's corpes
DBRB fleet. Nuff said
The point is they never dropped the Dreads on a PL supercarrier, they dropped it on a Amarr Militia carrier. Pl got batphoned when they came back for seconds.
I was there for the second fight and the article is *completely* incorrect.A group of local pirates [FETID] called for snuff capitals after they noticed a carrier on the Egghelm station. Snuff formed up a few dreads and dropped them, getting themselves a nice carrier kill the initial drop one of the Dreads got bumped around 70km off station. Fweddit at this point had undocked and gone for a hero tackle and were brawling with FETID, whilst simultaneously calling for PL supers. The lone dread pilot at this point called for the snuffbox capital fleet to come back in, which they did. At the same time, PL jumped into the system and the rest can be seen on the battlereport.My story can be verified on the two links below.http://poeticstanziel.blogspot...b
The retarded author of this article joined the Snuffbox public channel and asked them what happened. After getting trolled pretty poorly by them, the author decides to write this article, instead of asking anyone else involved in the fight at all.5 minutes of research can pretty much verify my story and it's fucking embarrassing to watch people defend this shitty journalism.
hahaha u want confirmation from poetic and one of fweddits post lol poetic talks utter properganda bullsh!t
Your accounts of the second battle with Snuff Box losing dreads is inaccurate. Perhaps you should contact people involved in the fight before assuming that they were brave enough to drop on a PL super.
You're right, propaganda only works one way.
That not what happend they did not drop on PL Fweddit baited them to drop the dreads and Point their FC before he could jump out he then reorder a jump back in to clear tackle which is when PL was was drop in on them to kill the dreads
Or anyone else in Fweddit who was on the battlereport. Or snuffbox (see grarr dexx above). Or FETID.
haha nice article shitler, literally nothing is right here
I'm not sure how this account got so fucked up; I had originally put the author in touch with Grath to get an account of the dread battle, but apparently they never connected. I've appended a correction with a statement from Pandemic Legion describing how this went down. Obviously, our initial reportage was screwed and we apologize.
It wasnt a snuff fc that was caught, just a grunt that had 1% too little cap to jump
Actually, it turns out that the CEO of Snuff Box essentially misled our reporter in an interview, which makes all the ~outraged~ comments from Snuff Box players here hilarious.
The sad truth was simply that we dropped the dreads in a desperate gambit to distract PL scouts from the titan Donnie had just warped to gate and been tackled by a lone condor.
Grarr was the only one that didn't realise it was a d0nnie troll. Rest of us were too busy mining for new dreads to ~rage~
D0nnie trolls his own corp by bridging em onto highsec gates and telling em to jump through and spread tackle on whats on the other side. It thins out the herd, the dumb ones die to concord.One gets used to it though, whatever he says just believe/do the opposite and its smooth sailing....or when in doubt post ponys.
Donnie needs to let us in on this shit faster so we can play along :V
If you aren't a misogynist in today's society, you're an idiot. not quite sure what this has to do with internet spaceships though... one of these issues is serious business, the other one is about girls. GTFO.
TBH none of us actually believed it was someone writing a real br, just assumed it was one of the usual scubs that usually fish for intel in our public channel.
Well ask yourselves: do you wanna be on the radar or not?
What do you think is going to happen when you troll someone writing a story on you??It's pretty fucking embarrassing when your leader can't be dealt with, because he's a douche-faced troll.
Its pretty embarrassing when your leader encourages the suicide of another player on a live broadcast. Don't see goons loosing any love for theirs over it.
Well you know - seeing Mittens demand that a CEO not troll an EVE related news site is kinda priceless.
EVE Paranoia Best Paranoia

Snuff Box, an increasingly prominent lowsec based corporation, has had an interesting week in New Eden: two capital brawls with major nullsec powerhouses. Once all the killboards had synchronized, the final tally was 11 dreadnoughts lost and 11 carriers killed.

Snuff Stomps Goonswarm Carriers

The night started with Goonwaffe FC Dabigredboat taking out an armour battleship roam with carriers and supercapitals on standby. The battleship fleet engaged a Snuff Box ship, which lit a cyno. Out pours a 25 man T3 fleet. DBRB countered by dropping carriers, and Snuff upped the stakes with a pair of supercarriers.

Neither side was able to make much progress against enemy reps, but Snuff Box upped the ante with three more supercarriers. As the reps in the Goon fleet started slipping, DBRB called in a 15-strong supercarrier fleet. Unfortunately, this support was not as prepared as he'd have liked and was out of range. As the supercarriers scrambled to a midpoint, carriers started dropping, with the fourth one going down as reinforcements arrived.

Typically, when such an imposing group of reinforcements arrives, an inferior force will retreat to prevent massive losses. However, Snuff Box took note of the CFC fleet's lack of interdictors (heavy or otherwise) and opted to stick it out. Their tenacity was rewarded, and they bagged a total of ten carrier kills before withdrawing with only relatively modest losses of their own. Winning an outnumbered supercapital battle nearly three-to-one in against one of the largest alliances in the game is no easy feat, and Snuff Box deserve all the respect for this bold move.


Dreadnoughts Take PL Bait

Feeling confident in their exploits from just three days before, Snuff Box got involved with Pandemic Legion. For those who don’t know, dropping capitals on PL tends to be a risky affair and this time proved to be no exception.

A Snuff Box fleet was out doing its thing, when a FW carrier appeared in their scopes. They dropped 14 dreadnoughts and three carriers on it, killing it in short order. So far, so good. Soon thereafter, they found a PL Nyx 400km off a station. Figuring they could melt it with the DPS of their dreadnoughts before help arrived, Snuff Box decided to drop it. They went siege green and set to work... which is when the cyno dropped.

A PL cyno opened

Out of that cyno came 35 more supers, and the rest is just mathematics. With well over a quarter of a million DPS, the supercapitals were able to melt 11 out of the 14 dreads in the span of the siege cycle.

An interesting set of fights; lowsec seems to be increasingly active as interest in Faction Warfare grows and a lack of conflict in nullsec results in more blocs looking for content outside their usual hunting grounds.



There were errors in the original piece regarding the second fight, and we contacted Grath of Pandemic Legion to clarify what occured and correct the article. He offered the following statement:


To correct the article a bit from the PL side of the fight, the Snuff Box dreads were on field killing a carrier, who's I have no idea, but they'd been pushing around the locals a wee bit and since we have friends there we listened when they called.

Snuff Box dropped in to kill and did kill a carrier to my knowledge (, but the extract went bad, their FC got caught up by Fweddit .

The dreads that had managed to evac, regrouped and came back to try and clear the tackled FC.

Arx Sheep is a carrier, not a nyx, and in Fweddit as well, who undocked to provide support for his FW buddies. He also had a cyno. The Snuff Box dreads scattered off the station when they came back in and when Arx lit his cyno they were anywhere from 30-70km from our supers, after some debate we began killing those closest to the station.

So to clarify, there was never a PL nyx used as any form of bait (because thats probably the worst bait in history), all of the players up until we came in were low sec locals.

Correction Update

Having had a chance to speak with our reporter, Kitt JT, it appears he did his level best to speak to the CEO of Snuff Box, the zero-prone 'D0nnieDark0', who he foolishly assumed would be a reliable source. We offer the following raw logs for your amusement as to their incoherency. We note that if Snuff Box would prefer ~more accurate~ reportage from TMC in the future, they should endeavor to have their CEO behave, rather than spewing misinformation and being shocked, shocked in the article comments that our reporters were misled.


[ 2012.12.27 00:39:58 ] Kitt JT > is there someone who was present for both incidents who i can pull aside and chat with about them?
[ 2012.12.27 00:43:35 ] D0nnieDark0 > point of view?
[ 2012.12.27 00:43:53 ] D0nnieDark0 > look at the kb p obvious
[ 2012.12.27 00:44:58 ] Kitt JT > Sure, but if I get only the PL and goon POV, then there will be many people complaining about inaccuracies in the BR
[ 2012.12.27 00:45:12 ] D0nnieDark0 > wait you writing a br ?
[ 2012.12.27 00:45:15 ] D0nnieDark0 > lol
[ 2012.12.27 00:45:30 ] D0nnieDark0 > we came to gank a pl nyx and he lit a cyno
[ 2012.12.27 00:45:33 ] D0nnieDark0 > we died the end
[ 2012.12.27 00:48:01 ] D0nnieDark0 > why not write a br on how we killed 10 goon carriers, with 5 supers vs 15+ supers and 15 carriers
[ 2012.12.27 00:48:14 ] Kitt JT > I am doing that as well.
[ 2012.12.27 00:48:21 ] D0nnieDark0 > lul
[ 2012.12.27 00:48:43 ] D0nnieDark0 > open a convo brah

[ 2012.12.27 00:49:09 ] Kitt JT > is because it was the 23rd of december
[ 2012.12.27 00:49:28 ] D0nnieDark0 > yar
[ 2012.12.27 00:49:47 ] D0nnieDark0 > what do you need to know?
[ 2012.12.27 00:49:48 ] Kitt JT > I'm not positive about all the other writers, but I was with the family
[ 2012.12.27 00:49:53 ] Kitt JT > well, regardign the nyx
[ 2012.12.27 00:50:01 ] Kitt JT > did you come close to killing it?
[ 2012.12.27 00:50:26 ] D0nnieDark0 > 50% shield not close
[ 2012.12.27 00:50:36 ] Kitt JT > :(
[ 2012.12.27 00:50:42 ] D0nnieDark0 > its late in russia & bosnia
[ 2012.12.27 00:50:46 ] Kitt JT > how did you find the nyx?
[ 2012.12.27 00:50:46 ] D0nnieDark0 > wanted some fonz
[ 2012.12.27 00:51:12 ] D0nnieDark0 > he was in a safe spot 400km or soo from the station
[ 2012.12.27 00:51:42 ] Kitt JT > you thought he was just afk and didn't realize he was uncloaked or something?
[ 2012.12.27 00:51:48 ] D0nnieDark0 > carriers were ghost riding hics
[ 2012.12.27 00:52:04 ] D0nnieDark0 > we thought we had the deeps to melt him in 2mins
[ 2012.12.27 00:52:11 ] Kitt JT > fair enough
[ 2012.12.27 00:52:17 ] D0nnieDark0 > but he lit cyno instantly and they had 30+supers
[ 2012.12.27 00:52:25 ] Kitt JT > yeah, not much you can do :(
[ 2012.12.27 00:53:15 ] Kitt JT > the carrier you got
[ 2012.12.27 00:53:17 ] Kitt JT > the chimera
[ 2012.12.27 00:53:22 ] Kitt JT > did it jump in with Pl?
[ 2012.12.27 00:53:40 ] Kitt JT > or was that something different
[ 2012.12.27 00:53:45 ] D0nnieDark0 > it was repping
[ 2012.12.27 00:53:49 ] D0nnieDark0 > not sure if pl or not
[ 2012.12.27 00:53:52 ] D0nnieDark0 > or part of bait squad

I have been playing EVE since late 2006, with a preference for nullsec warfare. I am currently a member of Nulli Secunda. In real life, I started a career as a pilot in 2007, and many of my articles discuss both flying, and EVE Online.