The Slaughter In F2OY-X

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Looking at the numbers I can't really understand how CFC managed to lost 16 Bil."Drop the hammer"? On already outnumbered enemies? Truely herotic move.
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well they had to make sure they wouldnt losse there sentry carrriers
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You can't come to someone's doorstep then complain about fighting outnumbered. It looks like BL had plenty of dreads they were using to shoot structures so maybe they should have gotten with NC. to escalate themselves. It's too bad the forces of elite pvp won't come in without papa PL and irrelevant lowsec pirates got their egos bruised when they lost 30 dreads to a gatecamp the other week.
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Sounds like a great fight with a relatively even outcome in terms of losses. Why then call it a slaughter, implying one side never stood a chance? Sensationalist headlines are weak journalism. Nicely written article apart from that.
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you are reading too much into it. its a slaughter because lots of ships were blown up. the title does not imply who was slaughtered, or that the slaughtering was once sided. just implies it was a bloody battle...which it was.
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My wife and I "dropped the hammer" a few times, she thought it was pretty herotic - be more open-minded, asshole.
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Oh no my spacehonor they dared to use all their available force in their staging system! How dishonorabru!But personally, yeah, I thought it was pretty 'herotic' myself.
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Take a look at the killboards. The Harpys killed the scimis, not the Battleships.
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One combined side lost more than double what the other side lost. Seems not like "even outcome" unless you try and spin it by breaking it down into 3 sides (which it wasn't).
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Oh look some butthurt kid complaining about people PLAYING THE GAME instead of staying docked during a battle. I guess all involved apart from the CFC have never blobbed anyone eh? Go back to shitposting on en24
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I think you misunderstand, or maybe I do, but I got from his post that it was the poor choice of words from the writer he was having a pop at rather then another CFC fleet throwing numbers at a problem they cant fix with skill.I may be wrong of course.
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You wife has "dropped the hammer" more times then I've had hot diners, she's loose bruv.
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What about the supers PL/NCdot drop on sub caps like frigs/cruisers and solo caps? You mean to tell me that's heroic? Shiiit!
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Not heroic just entertaining =]
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Titan Bridged to an unkown location, bullshit, we bridged and dunked a razor ishtar fleet.
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i was there. was a fun fight :)
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Surely a group that prides itself on meta game and painting a narrative must realise that for outsiders looking in 760vs 280 isn't a very interesting read, which is why people call you out on chestbeating over these victories.Nice to see Cfc using caps now though, it bodes well asking as PL NC. Don't get all risk adverse in the future.
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https://twitter.com/MENDoomBun...I wanted a plug of my twitter
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its a slaughter because lots of ships were blown up. the title does not imply who was slaughtered, or that the slaughtering was once sided. just implies it was a bloody battle...which it was. http://qr.net/FrS2
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Does she still have that rash?
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Be careful, if you cry any more you might short circuit your keyboard.
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"Time Dilation"
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Does this imply killing RZR is some sort of achievement? When did this happen? I always just figured it was expected.
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HURF BLURF APEX FORCES HURF BLURF EVIL GOON ENEMIES.
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Remember they are Razor though, not CFC, until they win. They're basically the Andy Murray of EVE.
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oh snap! Man CFC got wiped did anyone record this? Need a better perspective.
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There's no such thing as risk 'adverse', never post again
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You mean using caps under the relative safety of botlord, NC. are not stupid enough to escalate to a full capital fight knowing they can't count on PLs support if it turns into a supercap brawl and NC. don't have the numbers to go head to head with CFC on a supercap brawl especially in their own space.
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Are you talking about this?http://evf-eve.com/services/br...
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I did state"In reality, the Black Legion Tengu force had cynoed out to save a straggler dreadnaught from an operation against a BLAST mining tower in Aridia."right after, which includes the razor dunk http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_re... the link
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Wow you bought a tennis reference to an MMO.Great line but respect the majority of the audience.
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At least it's easier to find Razor outside their home region than most other alliances.
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BL and NC. put up an amazing fight given the circumstances. If the fight happened anywhere other than F2OY, both fleets could have moonwalked out at any time. Only dictors warping directly from undock to the fight kept any significant amount of ships tackled.It was a terrible mistake to fly dictors with an "A" name character, none of my dictors survived more than 10 seconds of real time.MVP of the fight goes to baki yuku, who lost a semi-shiny tenguhttp://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_de...and the +5/06 implant pod that was in the tenguhttp://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_de...
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could have use better phrasing, but nothing better came to mind, everything I thought of was even worse semantically.
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I was not there.Is this the kind of thing the FC's talk about when they meet up over drinks and BBQ - because if it is - it needs to be on cable, or at least Amazon TV.I can't believe it's not happened yet, but this is Drama, and the meet up could be just as great.Not to mention the fall out leading to more in game Drama.Is this too meta for Eve?
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But one of these days...
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Boat's bomber wing also managed to kill Vince Draken's alt:https://zkillboard.com/kill/40...
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There are other metaphors, but they'd have required a bit of work to set up right, yar.
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Too meta? The HBC dissolved, in part, because of the fallout of a drunken encounter in a pub at Fanfest. Soooo... nope, not too meta at all.
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That's where I ended up after losing my last Celestis. DBRB bomber comms never cease to amuse me.
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Long Live The Braves
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I think your mistaken and should of written theirs instead of there's.
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You're*There's is correct, whereas I don't think there is a single instance where theirs can ever be correct.Consider yourself successful(?)
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Successful Shitpost, 10/10. would post again.PS, should of is also a mistake, it should be should have, or should've.
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Your spelling is making me sic.
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You sound mad.
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Out of 321 losses for the anti-CFC, 7 can be accounted to the sentry carriers by themselves, with 9 assists (a single heavy neut, a tackled straggler getting shot by everyone on field, that kind of things). The rest is entirely the subcaps. Clearly they had no issue breaking things left right and center !
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BL and NC. did well according to this article, not only did they take on an escalating force with almost instant reshipping potential, their enemy threw sentry carriers at them (to throw a RvB statement, they 'up shipped').Interesting fight, glad to see CFC using Celestis fleets again. Next time ask for the node to be strengthened and invite brave to the fight :)
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Same old boring crap, just a different day.
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"It's too bad the forces of elite pvp won't come in without papa PL..."Who? What?
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CFC ALL DAY EVERYDAY!!
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I think it's somewhat unfair to describe it as a slaughter. It was a good fight and I'm happy BL decided to go for it and get a good fight. They fought well and smartly (hobo-bubbling our undock and whatnot) but carriers or not I think the fight would have gone the CFCs favor. Plus my 'ceptor survived in 18% structure so good times all around.
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Actually from KBs I've seen CFC lost about 36b isk themselves, not the understated 16b reported here
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Pl and BL are gonna morph power rangers style and take over vfk

Yesterday, August 2nd, the CFC clashed with the forces of Spaghettico (Black LegionPasta Syndicate, and Mordus Angels) and NC. in their southern staging system of F2OY. The battle lasted some two hours in 10% Time Dialation, and involved roughly 1000 characters.

The prelude to the fight began around 1930 EVE Time. Two CFC Fleet Commanders, Alphastarpilot and Jay Amazingness, requested to lead fleets into HERO space to brawl with the locals. An eighty-strong Harpy fleet was formed under ASP, while Jay led another eighty-ship Electronic Warfare "Fuck You Fleet", largely composed of Celestes. Shortly after forming at 2000, the pair noticed an NC. Harpy fleet in F2OY, and promptly dropped on the smaller NC. fleet, forcing them to regroup next door in 1DH.

While NC. was regrouping, CFC command realised that Black Legion had formed a Tengu fleet in Sakht, and then titan-bridged out to an unknown location. CFC FCs reached the conclusion that the NC. fleet would act as bait for the BL fleet, and Black Legion would cyno in on the next engagement. When NC. returned to F2OY, ASP and Jay were ordered to re-engage the NC. Harpy fleet, while an armor battleship fleet began forming under Reagalan to fight the Black Legion response.

In reality, the Black Legion Tengu force had cynoed out to save a straggler dreadnaught from an operation against a BLAST mining tower in Aridia. After saving the dread, the fleet returned to their titan to bridge into the F2OY fight, now occurring on grid with the station.

At battle's start, the CFC fielded a 90 ship Harpy fleet, a 90-ship Celestis damping fleet, and roughly 75 battleships. Facing them were 60 NC. Harpies led by Stepro, along with 50 Spagettico Tengus (supported by 35 Scimitar logistics ships) under Doombunny and Elo Knight. The Celestis fleet was ordered to focus damps on the Scimitars - but this had less effect than expected, and the CFC battleship fleet was unable to destroy any of the Tengus. Once free of their bubbled cyno, the Tengus warped on top of the Celestes and wiped out the fleet. Dead members of the Celestis fleet were ordered to reship in station and return as either interdictors or armor logistics. Meanwhile, NC. extracted their Harpy fleet to reship into more Tengus.

Unable to break the heavy tank of the Tengus, the CFC battleships re-focused on logistics, and were able to volley Scimitars with alpha strikes. All the while, Jabber broadcasts were bringing more CFC pilots into the fight, adding further battleship DPS as the number of Scimitars dwindled. Eventually, the Scimitars lost critical mass, and the battleships were able to threaten Tengus. After the battleship fleet filled up, reshipping or newly arriving CFC pilots were told to fit out Celestises, warp to wrecks near the fight, and damp random BL/NC. Scimitars.

The battle was slowly turning, thanks to more and more CFC pilots joining the fight from F2OY station. Then the hammer dropped: some 100 CFC sentry carriers undocked, jumped out, and jumped back into the fight. The damped and decimated logistics wing of the BL fleet could not save Tengus under both battleship and sentry fire, and both Tengu fleets made the call to extract. The Black Legion fleet was able to extract most of their surviving Tengus. The NC. fleet bounced to an offline TCU in the system, where they ran into an Initiative (INIT.) neuting armor HAC fleet. NC. suffered the majority of their losses there before being able to extract.

In the end, the CFC lost 16.5 billion isk, while BL and NC. lost roughly the same amount each for a total of 37 billion isk. The CFC lost roughly equal value in dead battleships and the dead EWAR fleet, with the highest attrition rate among Interdictors, many of whom continuously reshipped and fed their craft into the meat grinder. Black Legion had relatively light Tengu casualties, with their bulk of their losses from their Scimitar logistics wing. NC. likely would have escaped with light losses, if not for the run-in with the INIT. fleet after leaving the field.

While all this was going on, a separate skirmish broke out in D-3GIQ, where Brave Collective and INK chased an RvB Ganked roam into Querious before finishing them off.

Thanks to Doombunny, Blue Ice, Reagalan, Blawrf Mctaggart, and Alphastarpilot for the infomation provided for this article.

Angry Mustache
Perpetually broke pilot of Goonswarm. Will shill for isk.