Providence War Update: Fortress 9-F0B2?

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Nice write up. I recommend people check out to BR's on failheap. They are written very well.
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So can someone maybe shed some light on that video. I am only seeing like 15-20 BS there. Was the fleet split or what happend?
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so the combat can't drag on for too longHere you are off. Provi-bloc is used to long fights with non-capital ships, flipping station and other sov structures in anything but (super)caps. As long as no one steps in (or sound does provi a favour and leaves) and bring some numbers with big ships, this will go on for months.
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I'm sure they will claim it was empty.
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Confirming we are all terribads.
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Hah, "content fountain"I see what you did there
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I'm glad to see enl-i & cfc can be good sports after the fountain campaign. after all, we all enjoy the same thing, blowing up space pixels.
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I have no idea. It had cap parts drop, but reportedly it's "from the hangars", according to the owning corp.
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That was the most neutral name I could come up with? Believe it or not, this article was written to be as neutral as possible (hence "news") and passed by a fellow writer on the other side of the conflict for a sancheck before it was pushed.Regarding the name, they're provi, they're most of provibloc, they're sticking together, but I can't just say "provibloc" because that sounds bad for the SOUND side (our initial contention was that we still were/would be a member of provi, if not for SOME PEOPLE), or make up some insulting name like "buttsticks" because that sounds bad for the Provi side. I don't want to say just "CVA" because that shit *pissed me off* when I was a member of "CVA", so uh..."old provibloc" it is?
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Confirming that TEST is deploying to Provi.
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According to some source (a Sev3rance young diplomat), a peace treaty will give Sev3rance sovereignty. They were the smart ones, after all ...
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Standard fare for a 100 man 'BS fleet' in Providence. You can always count on 10-20% doctrine and 80-90% kitchen sink shit. And if you are lucky, half of that is actually PVP fit.
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Kudos for writing a much more objective write-up than your last piece! But I agree "Old_Provibloc" vs. "The Rebels" sounds biased. It's Provibloc (minus Severance kinda) vs Rebels... why does that sound bad? SOUND decided they wanted out so they're no longer in the club, simple.
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Every CSAA in null-sec is empty. Titans and supercaps are delivered via stork.
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This piece and my last served different functions. In my last, it was an editorial from the SOUND perspective, posted under 'features' and unapologetically one-sided. This one is a news report for the news desk in the 'news' section, and as such must as much as possible report the news. The fact that it's the first one after so long is because all provi TMC writers are too busy, well, fighting a war.Sorry I couldn't come up with better names ;-) I'm not a namer-of-things, all my ships are very boring. And Old Provibloc also sounds like the ones keeping to tradition and history, and I can see them being proud of that?
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If someone could get all of AUTZ into one group, could anyone ever take their space? Provided they could get it.
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Where to even begin... Let me start off by saying that I've been living in Provi for quite some time now. I used to be a part of another alliance ( in another region ) till a while ago. I understand the NRDS policy and ,let's face it, it's one that guarantees lots of fun times to be had by players of any SP range. It is that policy that gave a large portion of eve players their first taste of what null has to offer and the dangers that come with all the great things - even though some prefer to not remember that, after they joined some "ubber kewl" alliance. I never forgot which is one of the reasons why I am back there now. This time as a blue. What pisses me off about your "reports" in various sites is the fact that you seem to have a non challant attitude about all the shit you guys have done for which you've been called out. Yet you treat every shit CVA and co have been giving you as if it was the end of the world. Funnily enough that's exactly the same thing that the other side is doing.So let's address some issues here :1] Sound shot a blue and did not reimburse - nothing to discuss here. Alternative solution to war : Pay the fucking man instead of using this incident to trig old butthurtness and possibly even re-evaluated positions concerning your alliance's future. Leave in peace if that's what you want to do or stay but be a bro to your blues. As far as I know no matter how tense the relations were at any given moment you guys were never shot like that by a blue .... ever. As to VC aggressing neuts, I am pretty sure they reimburssed every single one of those pilots that were trully neuts.2] Sound pilot accepts contract that's a proof that stupid pilot still exist in eve. Alternative solution to crying and going all tense about it : Butthurt pilot's diplos contact Sound diplos and propose say a 1 bil bounty on the item for the issuer of the contract to pay to the man that accepted the contract as a fee for his stupidity. In addition to further punish issuer's stupidity issuer has to mine 10000 units of arkonor in a venture and sing on comms something horrible. Sound accepts, issuer pays up, get his item back, sound pilot makes 1 bil, everyone goes back to being bros, stupid issuer cries himself to sleep.3] Sound FCs for reds. Alternative solution to threats for war and going all tense about it : Alliances that are offended by that contact Sound's diplo explaining why they are offended by that and asking kindly Sound not to do that again. Sound either accepts or counterproposes something like maybe seeking to establish an FCing program between said red and the whole provi block, streangthening as a result the relations among said reds and the rest of the provi block. Details could be ironed out with a bit of effort. That could have gotten the whole lot into some interesting adventures... just sayin'4] Sound got moons in Derelik ( or wherever that was ). Alternative solution to calling them out as land grabbing whores and going all tense about it and Sound's diplos getting so butthurt that they resigned of their position : CVA diplos chilling the fuck out and actually if not endorsing such a move trying to find the positive thing about that. That may have been to expand activities in said region and maybe even trying to enforce a non piracy law in another region of the game. Fights would be had, fun would be had and it could have been the start of a new Proviblock mission. Sound's diplos could have also come up with that. Maybe that could have been the thing to get everyone out of this fucking rust they've been in instead of a civil war... just sayin' again5] CVA/YF and Sound disagree on the feasibility of newbros to fit according to doctrine and how important it actually is. Alternative solution to being all tense about it and believing that one opinion holds the absolute truth : Sound diplos realizing that people fitting to doctrine is important to medium/large engagements where actual resistance is to be expected and to sov grinding * oh look how relevant that is atm 0_0 *. CVA and YF understanding Sound's position that for peace time it is actually really pushy asking for people to field tech 2 fitted doctrines. Especially when the vast majority of north provi are mostly carebears that train indy skills all day long. A reasonable Providence wide plan could have been sketched and required from all sov holding alliances' pilots.Conclusion In a perfect world everyone - even now - would get their asses on comms and resolve the issue... and maybe even lure some "good samaritan" reds into a huge fucking trap in a mittani like move to kill some caps or sm. But since this is not a perfect world, Xavier and his fellas will continue their "crusade", CVA and co will keep pointing their judgemental indexes shouting "traitors", the vast majority of providence will keep being pvp averse fattening their wallets under the tolerance of every corp/alliance ( we really need to get some kind of minimum fleet participation as a prerequisite of being in a corp and to reduce purely indy corps in space holding alliances ) and a respectable portion of those who actually join fleets will still be a snowflake and will not fit according to doctrine. To old timers CVA has a nostalgic aura around itself, to newer players Provi is the funnel through which they go when they first take their timid steps into null ( yeah yeah I know none of you ever roamed around Provi as noobs cause you've always been godlike with your pvp so instead you solo roamed bob systems blowing all up ). Both Sound and the rest of the Provi holders have really, REALLY, let this region down.tldr : Big egos, big talk but in reality bad diplos and stupidity ruining what was a great region in all of its terribadness offering mid sized, non cap, non ti-di fights. GG to both Sound and the rest of the Proviblock for actually fucking it up... morons.
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Oh yeah, we're way worser at EVE then you.
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Anything associated with a build in progress is destroyed when the structure is destroyed or unanchored. So the parts you saw would have been extras.
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This is especially true when said space pixels are supercaps (death to supers)
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EN24 is that way. -------->>
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"This war has the unique distinction of being a grudgematch, not an economic struggle."No. No it doesn't.
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""In addition to further punish issuer's stupidity issuer has to mine 10000 units of arkonor in a venture and sing on comms something horrible.""I'd have paid to see that. The could've recouped the 1 bill by charging admission.
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Technically speaking CVA decided they wanted them out..
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Here's some propaganda on the side of SOUND. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
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...how about calling them their actual name? Just "Provibloc"? Quite a bit more neutral than anything else. Yeah, it may be a kick in the nuts to say that and not include yourself... buuuut you're rebelling against them, so you kinda have to suck it up and realize that yeah, you're NOT a part of them anymore. The people leaving don't get to decide names when they're in the minority.Anyway, bitching aside, I do really appreciate the overall neutral tone of this article, especially after your previous drama-filled adventure of a post. :)
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Whoop whoop, -7- provi police, with both sound and cva trashing the very idea/concept of provi it is left to -7- hold the line. If its red it needs to die, and hey why not whore on every kill mail that happens. Special shout out to noir (guys you can be nice and it is appreciated but don't doubt -7- will shoot you if the chance arises) also thumb's up to the BNI some truely Sound worthy bombing runs. Lastly a huge thanks to Rook's and Kings from me personally. CFC next time you come please bring some fun stuff to shoot.
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gawds no, no matter what I think, you think, anyone thinks there is absolutly zero reason to take those systems. Zero upside, zero profit, nothing but headaches and listening to more bitching
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TL;DR: Blah, Blah, Blah... Lets keep killing stuff in Provi, this is the most fun a lot of us have had in a while and I hope it keeps going. FYI, nothing to get serious about here, it's just interject spaceships. ;D
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After reading XavierVE's write ups on Fail Heap Challenge I just want to know if anyone has approached him to contribute to this site? His battle reports are a bit biased but really entertaining to read and offer more insight to the actual fighting than what I found here. The site's one year update said you want more news pieces and he is already writing them. It might be hard to find someone to represent the "Old Provibloc" but I'm gonna lobby for this anyway.
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Foot, meet mouth. Last time I post on this site only skimming through an article. Sorry Ali...
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Aaaaand it's over.

(Editor's Note: This article is written by Ali Aras, a member of one of the corporations (Of Sound Mind) involved in the conflict. It was sanity checked by a member of Old Provibloc to ensure neutrality.)

Remarkably, the war in Providence is still going.

The war kicked off last Tuesday with a heavy EUTZ onslaught by CVA loyalists (henceforth "Old Provibloc"), who put up SBUs and reinforced all structures in 4B-NQN along with the 9-F0B2 ihub. The first shots in the war of words were fired the next day, with editorials by both Of Sound Mind (SOUND) and Old Provibloc posted on this site. Both sides have posted followups as well: a SOUND listing of diplomatic grievances and a Providence News post regarding an FC who shifted to the SOUND side. The EVE subreddit has had a few propoganda images posted as well, although this is no Fountain war.

In the next few days, the sides of the conflict sorted themselves out. Almost all of Providence followed CVA and VOLT in the war declaration; 4TH, APOC, AFK, and several non-sovholding entities have all shown up for fleets. After posts went up, SOUND received a number of offers of help from groups who either had an axe to grind or a desire for fights. A loose confederation has formed (henceforth "the Rebels"), bringing the numbers on each side closer to even. The list of people who've showed up is long and diverse. We've seen Noir, Dirt Nap Squad, Brave Collective, Bomber's Bar, Darkside (along with other Curse Russians), the CFC, and N3ST (yes, on the same side!). Others have shown up just to torch everything, including Surely You're Joking and Verge of Collapse. Meanwhile, Sev3rance, another Providence holder, opted to remain neutral to SOUND but shoot at anything KOS to Providence.

With sides picked, the two groups have been duking it out. Some of the fights have produced some good footage: Mad Ani streamed some of the 4B timers, and Surely You're Joking edited a great video of a surprise triple bombing run. XavierVE, one of the SOUND FCs, has been regularly updating a battlereport thread on Failheap. In general, Old Provibloc is dominant in EUTZ, while the Rebels hold USTZ firm (Provi AUTZ sucks). On Monday night, the Rebels went on the offensive, reinforcing two towers. However, the following days saw heavier EUTZ onslaughts, leaving more repping work in the US.

This war has the unique distinction of being a grudgematch, not an economic struggle. It's being fought primarily by smaller independent entities, and the politics are more complex than just red vs blue. Capital ships have seen light use on both sides. Neither group was completely ready for war, so the combat can't drag on for too long. Regardless, while it lasts, it's a content fountain for everybody.

CSM8 Vice-Secretary, @ali_of_space, TMC editor. I play EVE, LoL, and miscellaneous other games.