Post-6VDT TEST State of the Alliance

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Heh this is nothing compared to the Great EVE War.
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TESTicals said what they learned something from this war, but not telling us what exactly. It looks like a teen who made bad things got spank and then explained this - he did it just for lulz. Literally TESTs didn't learned anything.
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Most of our dread pilots (myself included) go in hoping to die, as we've already sank the isk into the plat insurance.
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You seem to be mistaking how you want the situation to be from what it was. The pilot did not care. That was before he realized he was going to make money dying. The futile charge WAS cool and I will let those pilots think whatever they want.
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Completely untrue. We realised that our current leadership structure is an absolute mess, and we're starting a complete overhaul. We're going to make life easier for our FCs. We're going to finally fix Short Bus. I'd trade this long-needed changes for Delve and Fountain any day, because at the end of the day, holding virtual space pixel regions doesn't matter. Having fun matters. It's a video game.
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That would feel pretty awesome that an entire subcap fleet that is pretty much completely invulnerable to blap dreads decided to go and welp themselves on your naglfar. K/dr 200 : 1
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Yep the whole purpose of flying dread is to dish out damage and die...if you manage to go through a cycle and survive sucks to be you, because you have to replace the fuel to jump home with yourself
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This has proven that when all other entities attack CFC the CFC has prevailed. Thanks for feeding another years worth of propaganda o7
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Аллах вам судья.
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Fuel is free, what are you talking about?
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Was a good one TEST but it's over ... at least for you. I really hope we will go for Delve next and after that the East ... We cannot have any compassion for a group that publicly advertised that they will exterminate the CFC.
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Killing the CFC Titan immediately after was funnerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
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It wasn't the FC's fault (even though he ridiculed them on forums.)It wasn't the logistics fault (even though they had those hangars stolen.)It wasn't BoodaBooda's fault (even though he decided to flee after the fateful evemail I sent)
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Try talking to all of the booted and threatened FCs that you stupidly booted out because they fought and did more than most of your dumb ass leadership cronies, yup go back 3 year and find out why your current ones are either clueless or cba to show up.
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TRIBAL LEGION, BEST LEGION
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Booda still standing firmly on the damage control button, not realizing its the only thing left of this horrible pubbie empire bult on welfare checks provided by goons and PL.Just let it go, the hurt will soon stop...shhhh, just let it go its allright.I just hope their line members will soon get a chance to see what its like playing the game in a well-run alliance that can handle shit on their own.
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lolwut?
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LOL can't believe this fight actually made it on to BBC news website...
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I wouldn't be very proud of that 5-minute photoshop job.
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TEST returning to the roots, UNDER A ROCK! in Delve.
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Words are cheap. I'll believe Booda "It wasn't really anyone's fault, it wasn't even my fault (can I say that here?)" Booda learned any lessons when he and TEST leadership implement them successfully and properly, instead of another pathetic mockery of the systems their betters have devised, another round of the cargo cult.
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Comedy, of course.Ok content: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/tech...
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A month is enough? You must be new here. A month or two means we're just getting started.
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Tribe showed up to 6VDT in their Sunday best with a fleet of Legions.Class in session.
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Ironic how you say test acts like a teen when your entire comment says 14 year old.
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Fuck walked right into that one.:cripes:
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Test won the day, when their allys finally arrived - better late then never - and killed a TITAN.
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Congratulations on your single-handed effort to bring down BoodaBooda and make him flee to Delve. Although I'm sure there were other factors involved, I know that your valiant covert operations were penultimately the driving factor to make Booda abandon us and have him steal all our stuff. Also, I enjoy your blog.
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Test did well but was simply out guned
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Let the CFC RMT (with CCP backing) continue!We all know that the CFC does RMT and CCP looks the otherway since they generate content, thus free advertising.
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Delve is the region alliances go to die. Seriously.
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'largest, most amazing fight the EVE community or even the video game community at large has ever seen.' Actually there was one bigger of 10thousand players...however the server, os, and game were all designed for this one battle, dont know its name, but i believe the person who told me.
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If it wasn't for TDI we couldn't get these :goodfights:
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Didn't want that station anyway
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More like out-organized.
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That was my favorite part of the fight. Some of us lost our drones and burned straight at him to plink away with the small projectile turrets. It felt like one of those alien invasion movies taking on a massive force against all odds, except unlike those movies we didn't win.
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Sigh: If the CFC is in RMT, where does the ISK come from to replace whelped titans? Or was the tech throne so wealthy as to cover RMT and whelped titans... DBRB being DBRB etc? Or are you just a poor troll with a nasty case of butt hurt?
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I have to admit, I'm glad to see that they're at least going to try and push on. I also must admit I kind of hope TEST is completely destroyed, but mainly because I simply would want to see what would happen in that scenario.
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for alliance read coalition*
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It would seem that Test forgot the lessons they learned when they were bros, that said the elite masters of PVP N3 made pretty much the same error (never realised how much fun it would be pointing out that N3 and Test made the same error in joining that fight).
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/tech...Hey dudes, This shit was so big it made the BBC news. With a link that directs you to this page. Well done guys in making internet spacehhip history!
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The Rains of Test, please let Sua sing this,And who are you, the proud CEO said, that I must bow so low?Only a BEE of a different coat, that's all the truth I know.In a coat of gold or a coat of black, a Bee still has a sting,And mine are long and sharp, my lord, as long and sharp as yours.And so he spoke, and so he spoke, that CEO of Test,But now the rains weep o'er his Station in 6VDT-H, with no one there to hear.Yes now the rains weep o'er his Station in 6VDT-H, and not a soul to hear.or a montolio version :PAnd who are you, the proud Montolio said, that I must bow so low?Only a BEE of a different coat, that's all the truth I know.In a coat of gold or a coat of black, a Bee still has a sting,And mine is long and sharp, my lord, as long and sharp as yours.And so he spoke, and so he spoke, that CEO of Test,But now the rains weep o'er his Station in 6VDT-H, with no one there to hear.Yes now the rains weep o'er his Station in 6VDT-H, and not a soul to hear.
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Maybe Sua will sing this for eve community?The Rains of Test:And who are you, the proud CEO said, that I must bow so low?Only a BEE of a different coat, that's all the truth I know.In a coat of gold or a coat of black, a Bee still has a sting,And mine is long and sharp, my lord, as long and sharp as yours.And so he spoke, and so he spoke, that CEO of Test,But now the rains weep o'er his Station in 6VDT-H, with no one there to hear.Yes now the rains weep o'er his Station in 6VDT-H, and not a soul to hear.Or Montolio/Booda Version, since Montolio started the way:And who are you, the proud Montolio(or Booda) said, that I must bow so low?Only a BEE of a different coat, that's all the truth I know.In a coat of gold or a coat of black, a Bee still has a sting,And mine is long and sharp, my lord, as long and sharp as yours.And so he spoke, and so he spoke, that CEO of Test,But now the rains weep o'er his Station in 6VDT-H, with no one there to hear.Yes now the rains weep o'er his Station in 6VDT-H, and not a soul to hear.
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What a shitty troll. Please kill yourself at your earliest convenience.
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Much respect to TEST for bringing such a huge fight in the face of our numbers.10/10 would shoot again.
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Test is going to fail cascade hahahahagahahahahahaggaggah
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So is it possible that Test can cut a deal with CFC to drop their remaining sov in Fountain in order to guarantee they keep Delve? If so, would Test ally with the CFC to take NC(dot)'s holdings in Querious?It seems like a stretch, but it would be fun to watch.
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Yup, good job killing one ship and losing only an entire region of space and the biggest fleet they've ever formed to do it!
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seems to be good enough for this wonderful site :b
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Then how did everyone else make it out? You are full of it.
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Next time you won't outnumber them right? Down with coalitions on both sides.
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Doubtful, you can't destroy goons or test due to their outside recruiting.
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And out-gunned. Don't act like Test alone vs CFC isn't a 9000 man alliance vs a 32000 man coalition. Even combined strength of its eventual allies doesn't add up to CFC numbers.
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Yea, next time we will send our guys home once we reach an preagreed number with our opponent ... We are even going to wait for them to form / show up ...
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Sounds legit.
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I missed Test trying to betray Raiden in Querious. I thought Raiden disbanded.
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A TEST Dominix fleet had trouble with disconnects and chose not to enter the main engagement instead engaging the hunter fleets holding the gates. they were able to clear the gate long enough for TESTies to escape but by then most of them had been killed while they were still trapped in system
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I disagree with that analysis for three reasons.First is that dropping Fountain sov wouldn't be a game changer at this point. Test's timer board shows 23 sov structures coming out of reinforce in the next 19 hours, and that assumes they care enough to even list them all at this point. Unless N3 manages some major pushback, CFC will own Fountain in less than a week.Second is that Test has never been that great a meatshield in this war. What has prevented the CFC from steamrolling Fountain is the N3 and PL capital ship fleets. You can see what happened when CFC caps could operate relatively freely, meatshield didn't help. Also, Test has barely shown up for many fights, this war has basically been between CFC and N3/PL.Finally, I don't know why so many people think the CFC wants to take over Delve. It's horribly far from the rest of CFC space. It's a 3-midpoint trip from 4-E to a useful cap staging system like A-EL, which is far away from the logical subcap direct connection from Fountain. Moving down there was a huge pain in the rear the last time around, and that time it was relatively easy to establish a beachhead.The CFC has spent a couple years gradually growing and consolidating space. They have no reason to take a region as far away as Delve, or for that matter N3's current space. What I expect to see is the CFC leave Delve to whoever wants to fight for it, and switch to a non-sov war against N3 that mostly involves hotdrops on renters and other disruptive activity.
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Well yeah, that's a fact, but the whole story of Fountain has been "Coalition that acts like an organized entity beats up rag-tag mob with occasional signs of organization"...
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My pod would disagree with you. I managed to fly it back to Karan just fine.
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I usually don't flatter myself with the notion that Goons are gods of death, but if you want to put it that way, then fine.
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Does CONCORD discriminate against spaceblackpeople?
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All dem ewar Prophecies and Zealots in my overview.
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TEST is very fortunate that after analyzing all the battle information it was determined that it was NO ONES' fault that they lost. No one at all. It just kinda happened but not the next time. No, just reorganize and they are good.
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Exactly, once the pilots get reimbursed for their losses its business as usual.
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Interesting read. The only thing I'd question is the meat shield part. Of course the shield isn't going to be effective when no one is around to wield it.
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Heard of chinese whispers? Well turns out it was only 1000 lol
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That's one thing I don't like in EVE, NPC insurance companies operating at a loss, surprisingly immersion breaking for me.
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Well, We'll see how it works for MS after Windows 8.
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I think you missed the point there chief.Battlecruisers as well as Battleships are fielded for their reliability in resupply with numbers (Battlecruisers are even "better" at that, which was the irony you didn't pick up on), not because they are "actually decent".Those Prophecies are no worse to Megathrons than Megathrons are to Archons or Archons are to Aeons and so forth. Any "decent" larger fleet will "dumpster" a smaller fleet in EVE today, wether we talk about pilot volume or ship volume. That's the current balance for better or worse.My point was quite simply that the formation the HBC rested upon, which allowed them to compete in the presumtive escalation of the CFC cold-war, broke before the actual war (even if it persisted to some degree early on) and not when TEST decided to fall back onto Prophecies, the GSF revised their doctrines, BL took a contract or SOLAR saw their chance to make a bid for their space back.Not that those events were unimportant, but they are not the underlying factor. Mord Fiddle, in his recently re-posted Blog about English Kings is actually more on key than most in his analysis. It's a surprisingly good read if you haven't brushed up on it.Even beore SOLAR re-emerged in the spotlight, NCdot was fighting an uphill battle, shedding numbers to fill out baseline participation and thinning out their ability to escalate (not raising sufficient baseline +1 to threaten the CFC). That has been the case ever since the trenches got established and the battle-lines drawn.I guess that's alot of words for just saying "don't get hooked on the Prophecies, they had nothing to do with the outcome of this war". They were most likely just used to expend the hangars since PL had drilled TEST into using Prophecies as a go-to concept for larger roaming-style content in the post-Drake aftermath. They had a stockpile of ships that were not worth moving (because the fuel to transport them would cost more, wololol), so why not explode them in pointless fashion? :)
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Close....but....well, not really.The CFC made a good effort to convince Test to dump Raiden, but they stubbornly held out. Then when Raiden farted off into the four corners of the galaxy for whatever reason they did, Test was left looking like they were duped.
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It was a good final battle of a very entertaining campaign. Thanks to everyone on both sides for providing some great content.I'm a little mystified by some people's need to crap all over one side or the other after the fact. If a war like this makes you more angry than happy, why do you even play?
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We seem to have booshed some effective reimbursement drones lately, got my SRP payout 7 hours after dying.
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Great analysis. And thanks for the suggestion to check out that Mord Fiddle post. Here's the link for others who are interested: http://fiddlersedge.blogspot.c...
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TEST didn't fly a dominix fleet. That'd be NC. I made it to the gate when the call to head out was made and the B-170 gate was clear. Could have run without an issue.Then the call to turn around and burn the Nagalfar was made. I turned around and headed back because I could and it was glorious!
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Yeah, because I've only got 1 prophecy in my hangar, can't imagine how I'll stretch to another one; and perish the thought that the other ships in my fleet aren't able to do any damage to an enemy ship.Not everyone relies on SRP. Don't believe the hype.Retard.
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I wouldn't be so sure that they actually operate at a loss. In my experience insurance quite often runs out, netting the NPCs a profit.

 

(Boodabooda, leader of TEST held an SOTA after TEST's defeat at 6VDT, the biggest battle in EVE's history. He also posted a version of the speech on TEST's forums. It differs slightly from the recorded version.)

Today we fought in 6VDT. We didn’t fight to save the station, we didn’t fight to win an ISK war, and we didn’t fight to turn the war around.

We fought today because we need to show the game that we play a bit differently than you're 'supposed' to. Because we want to show the galaxy that all problems aside we can still field about as many autists as anyone else in the game – coalition or not — instead of standing down and crying in the corner like other alliances faced with the same fate. 

We fought because TEST stands together in the face of certain, guaranteed death.

I wanted to give Fountain one HELL of a sendoff, and it's incredibly appropriate that it took place in our home system of 2+ years. 

This war has taught us many things – We’ve learned what we can do at our best, and we’ve learned what we need to do to properly support our FCs, leadership, and membership.

We made an absolutely fantastic showing today. We fielded more members than any single alliance has ever seen – we even had twice what CONDI alone brought – and we set a record for the largest fight EVE has ever seen by a few hundred pilots, maybe even a thousand. Hell, TRIBE pulled more numbers than anyone in the CFC besides Goons. Even our bros RIOT brought a big chunk of spaceships.

So with all that said, we’ve been losing a defensive war for about two weeks now. As soon as our big strong capfleet-toting allies had to run home, the CFC pulled out all the stops, and TEST was unable to keep up on our own. They practically rolled through Fountain unopposed.

This isn’t the fault of our members. It isn’t our FCs' faults, or our mildir’s fault, or logi, or recon, or our corp CEOs… This war has been an immense team effort, and one of the most significant things we’ve learned is that our team needs some improvement before we can function together well enough to pull off a large scale war like this.

What can be done about this?

First off, we’re going to undeploy and head back to NOL in Delve.

Delve is a slightly more defensible position, and our allies seem to prefer fighting here. But that’s not why we need to retreat.

We need time to do the work we should’ve done 3 months ago. 3 years ago. We have to clean up our leadership groups and structure in order to handle something as significant as a full on coalition-level war – or something as simple as record-breaking activity numbers.

The CFC will almost definitely attack Delve, either in a continuation of their full-scale invasion, or with prodding tests like we saw before 1-SMEB. It will give us an opportunity to put some strain on a rebuilt leadership structure and see how we function. I will be constantly reevaluating our position the entire time, but for now that’s the plan.

On the topic of leadership restructuring, we’re going to do something TEST has never seen before, and bring FCs even more into the fold of day-to-day leadership-ing; this will allow all leadership groups to provide them the proper support that historically has gone through a select 2 or 3 military people. That’s about all that’s set in stone so far, you’ll hear more later on. Also, Shortbus/Schoolyard are being reformed and given less stupid names.

I can only hope that you don't feel I've thrown away your donations to the alliance. Ultimately, the sov is here so we have something to fight about, and I felt it best to spend our cash in the bloodiest, largest, most amazing fight the EVE community or even the video game community at large has ever seen.

So fellow TESTies, follow me back to Delve, and let’s set out on a journey to make TEST the alliance this community deserves. 

Image courtesy of redditor Charco Kovacs.

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