Poking The Bear: Venal Hostilities Underway

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good luck BL AND 401K may good fights find you
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This is a perfect opportunity for Goonswarm to get an accurate accounting of their allies strength. And if they don't add up, perhaps it is due time to replace them. They can't bail their friends out forever, they become a liability instead of an asset.
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Cough. FA. Cough.
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I think the last two deployments have spoken to the strength of the Goonswarm allies. FCON, SMA, LAWN, FA, RZR, etc. showed up to fleet after fleet, reinforcing structures, sitting on titans, filling fleets. That is what makes a coalition.
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On the other hand, if you attack our allies we will attack you. FCON/SMA has earned thier techmoons and I see no reason to abandon them. There are plenty of ways to gauge our allies which does not invole being huge dicks.
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This is foolish. The CFC always has, and probably always will be a force of critical mass. Alone each unit is weak, but when you have 500 standing side by side they become formidable. There's nothing wrong with that either. It's a valid way to succeed in null and has worked exceptionally well by using politics as a strength. FA is no weaker than goonswarm alone. I can attest to that, having been in fleets absolutely dunking GSF in VFK over the past 2 years. When you guys get together though and push massive fleet numbers, you gain an advantage that other actors in this game can't achieve. To throw out FA because they're 'bad' would be a fatal error, it runs contrary to everything that has made the CFC successful.
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Should have used 'Shake' instead of 'Poke' in the title.
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401k isn't blue to Black Legion, which makes it even funnier that two 5000 man alliances can't handle alliances 5% their size. Great EN24 reporting!
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it is only formidable if the enemy have half that number
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If they can't hold the front against an alliance the size of BL, they are of no use to the CFC. There are plenty of people who at the very least would not embarrass themselves like SMA and FC have done over the last weeks who would be glad to live there. Stop propping up dead husks of alliances and replace them with those that offer more than 30 warm F1 buttons on fleets.
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Okay lets be honest : Without bringing more than tripple the numbers the CFC will not win a single fight.
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Your math is absolutely hilarious. While close, SMA & FCON combined do not add up to 5,000. Yet you say it's two 5,000 man alliances?And the number listed as part of the alliance has always meant crap. SMA has a strong industrial arm, that quickly raises its numbers due to the sheer volume of alts.
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Holy shit the return of BoB? Could it finally be happening?
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Their problem might be their industrial arm should be raising more than mining lasers. If you can't defend your space against an opponent so small, perhaps you need to look at people who wouldn't let a tech moon fall to a 60 man fleet.
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Why was my comment deleted? Because I mentioned the return of BoB? Is this an independent news site or goon central?
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Your comment is still there. Refresh the page you paranoid retard.
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I don't think you understand how "industrial arms" in 0.0 alliances often work. One person/player will have a PVP toon (the high-speed ones will have a Falcon alt, or Loki alt, or whatever), and will then have many more toons, often on the same accounts, dedicated to industry, research, etc. For convenience's sake, they are often in the same Alliance. Thus, an alliance with 1,800 toons may in fact have only 1,000 accounts, and those spread across only 400-500 players (of which only a portion will be online at any given time). Thus, an 1,800-toon industry-heavy alliance may in fact only have around 500-600 PVP toons available to it, including supercaps, pre-deployed cyno alts/scouts, etc.Contrast this with groups like Black Legion and Pandemic Legion: in these cases, the alliances are staffed almost entirely with "mains". PL even tends to keep their cyno alts in completely unaffiliated alliances/unaffiliated corps in order to hide their scouts better. Such alts usually aren't even on PL's blues list. Some of PLs spies double as industry alts in their targets, which ironically helps beat the drum of Space Bushido.
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Hi TEST.
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Like your alliance, I suppose? How are things at the moment?
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Because it's rated lower than this post, and thus shows up lower. Take off your tin-foil hate and take a moment to understand how Disqus works before sperging like an idiot. You're just embarrassing yourself. (Well, you're embarrassing the pseudo-anonymous handle under which you're posting.)
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In Russia, bear shakes you.
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Things are going great' but now I have to apparently go help save some dead weight who can't fight an alliance 1/5th their size. You're judged by the company you keep and recently it seems like we've surrounded ourselves with idiots.
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We aren't BoB.We're something weirder. :)
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Right, so we agree that they can't defend their space with their macanaw alts and don't deserve to live there. Got it.
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You'd probably be better if it was deleted to be honest.. Just because Sir Molle and his Evolution are in 401k, doesn't mean that BoB are returning. Please grow a brain.
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Not even an honorable mention for pizza? 401k isn't even blue to BL, LOL.
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It's pretty cool to see Pizza do something other then farming Fountain for ratters, even if it is just as bomber support.
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We're a coalition, not a 'Band of Dickbags' who refuses to help each other and keep bickering internally.
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Damn dude, you caught a bad case of the dumbs and I think it's permanent. Sucks to be you.
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Who cares as long as space-communism holds the field?
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I can't read, therefore goons!
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A man who uses a name like that has the gall to pull the "faux news" line...... seriously I think your boyfriend is calling you. Maybe this time he will lube up because I am detecting some buthurt
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How many accounts do you personally multibox in pvp fleets? Please provide screenshots. Please also explain how you log multiple alts on a single account into the same fleet.Do all the people in your alliance have such a tenuous grasp on game mechanics?
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It happened months ago, we're called the HBC now.
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I bet they did delete it and then undeleted it to provoke the assclown reactions I got as responses.
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Syndicate, FD, top belt, 15 mins goonfag. Do you have what it takes?
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You wish. You are called goon-lite and forever will be.
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Full retard.
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What a shitty article. Black Legion didn't actually start any hostilities, SMA and FCON decided they were going to "purge" venal. Jesus Christ, this site is on par, if not worse, than EN24. At least EN24 doesn't have shitty book reviews by community college dropouts and articles by mouthbreathing LoL players.
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Like I wanna sit on my thumb while theres goodfights going on up in venal?
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Don't forget, Riverini is in 401k.
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If you think you deserve to live there, then why dont you do something about it?Not every aspect in eve is pvp, you need more then alone pvp players, so i guess they are contributing well to their coalition.Anyway, you are probably some butthurt dude who got booted out of that space anyway!
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Yet 401k, xPizzax, and [SCRAP] continue to fill out BL. fleets. Glad to see BL. get some blues, neutral blues and allies. It makes for more fights. We can start calling you the... The Venal Coalition, or VenCo.
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Afraid? Thought so. I never expected better from a goon.
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I wonder why Mittani constantly has to make the enemy, somehow related to BoB. It's a very uncreative and repeated way to try to get his player base motivated to protect his techmoons.
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lol
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I want to his his face when they do return and crush his lulzy coalition under an iron boot. Go BoB!
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I love how this article says "blessed structure-free PVP" shortly after mentioning the deployment of some to Syndicate.
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This entire campaign was FA and SMA trying to do something without big daddy goon holding their hands. It's hilarious that after not only getting dumpstered on a level that literally hasn't been seen in years, but losing TECH MOONS, that they go crying to the Goons and beg them to get their moons back for them.Remember when the NC was crumbling, and Goonswarm was letting Morsus Mihi, Mostly Harmless, RAZOR, etc. rightfully die because they couldn't do shit without Goons/TEST doing all the legwork? It's funny as hell how they've taken a 180 on that stance now that ISK is involved.
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It's the end of Boring Swarm and the Honey Botter Coalition. New times are coming, great times, pristine times, full of light and promise. Welcome back BoB, we missed you.
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lmao this propaganda is retarded
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damage control mate, propaganda article and no-cfc comment deleted is the way
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401k have not been in our fleets...
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I think we all knew SMA was gunna get wiped from the face of the earth at some point. Let's just get it over with
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They just support your fleets with bombers, hics and tackle. Call it a 3 way but its still neutral blues. Seems I've struck a nerve here. I know the elite spartan warriors of BeeEldotte pride themselves on not having blues and allies but before the addition of noir. you could barely get 80 in fleet. Pizza, SCRAP and 401k support gives you much better options/chances. Quit being so ashamed of your allies.
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yea but the VNL.Co haven't even set each other blue, why bother.
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Not our fault you can't get enough people. And war ain't fair, deal with it.
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Go away, you're drunk...
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If you think you deserve to live there why don't you come take if from us instead of spewing retarded propaganda about how bad we are which none in the CFC cares about. Goons won't become your friend just because you think their allies are shit from losing one tech moon. Actually I think most CFC members just think you're an idiot.
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Oh my gawd, all the stupid in this comment field.
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Stay arrogant and cowardly.
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We haven't been working with 401k that I've seen. Not that I'd mind.Also, Noir. relevance spotted.
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I'm in a wormhole corp. You are literally more stupid than I could imagine.
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There are a lot of people who would not embarrass themselves. They would not be happy to live there. People who don't embarass themselves usually are pvpers trough and trough. They do not like having most of eve blue.
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Thor used to be pretty decent, Alljump is pretty damn good, troy isn't to bad either.Now your turn, besides the internet romancing fat chicks genius of a basement dweller, elo....whats particular value do the lot of your have?Not saying that BL is terrible at internet spaceships..... but there is more to life than pixels in the shape of a T3And if I am looking you in the eye,,,, you should be watching your structure, cause your going to be a pod
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cool story bro
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I should probably revise my previous statement, please name one FC that, in comparison to BL. is a capable FC, and then provide an example.Okay, so besides one of the best FC's in the game who has coalitions literally pay him to FC their fleets for him, the majority of which result in success despite the odds...We have:Muhadin, The Blue-Slayer:A god among men, has fc'd plenty of fleets and dunked his fair share of nerds with style: http://www.youtube.com/watch?f... (Recent Example)Steelrattty, The permavirgin:Player of 9 years, virgin of 22. This Eve colossus eats xix tengus for breakfast lunch and dinner, master of the ancient knowledge of the hot drop and the subtle art of posting.https://www.youtube.com/watch?...Nulab Jones, The Van-borne warrior:Lord of the artycane this bitter-vet is actually a bit of a faggot, but still better than anything Fcon's come up with or SMA.Ontop of that we have ips, fro, disastro and plenty more that I've missed in my haste to school you.But on the topic of value of our lone alliance, I believe I can answer that with a simple: Alot more than Fcon, SMA, Razor, Goons, Lawn, TNT, Gents and TEST by their lonesome.Also please refrain from petty smack such as "I r going to blow ur ship ooop" after saying that there's more to life that pixels, it's contradicting, and you're mistaken enough without diminishing your own argument.
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Thought you guys might enjoy thishttps://soundcloud.com/doyoufe...
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You can appease your conscience anyway you want.
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Ohhhhh a WORMHOLE CORP! Goons have that now?
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This is going to be very predictable:First they will lose like they always do.Then they will call in the rest of CFC and lose some moreFinally they'll call in everyone that's blue or willing to temporary blue up with CFC, permacamp us into stations and declare it a win.
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I've got pictures of Elo Knight somewhere. I'd fuck him. Let me see if I can find them
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OH NO. Burakku Region-san declares us unworthy of membership in honourable ~space bushido~.For being so anti-CFC, you guys always seem to be first in line to suck some Goon dick. Funny coincidence, huh?
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Let me guess, they call you Turtle because you only stick your head out of your shell when everything's safe and sound... We're monkeys. We love to swing from trees, fling poo, and publicly masturbate at the zoo. We also don't back down from a ~good fite~.
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When logic fails, resort to straw men.
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Feel free to relieve them of their space at any time. Just remember that no one is EVE is going fight with an arm tied behind their back.Lots of smaller entities point to alliances in the CFC or HBC and say "Without Mother Goon or Papa TEST, Alliance ABC would curl up an die. They should fight on their own to prove their worth." One might as well of said of IT Alliance a few years ago, "Without The Maverick Navy and Evolution and a jillion Titans, IT Alliance would be shit. They should fight in subcaps under cyno jammers without their biggest Corporations to prove their worth. Nobody expected IT/BoB to fight with a hand behind their back...why do they expect non-elite-PVP-bushido alliances to do the same?EVE isn't a boxing ring; it's a sandbox, and sometimes a group of speds gets together and whoops the shit out of the asshat bragging about his black belt.
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nonsense, pvp exists only to consume my industry products.Spreadsheets online forever!Now go blow up some ships.
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So when we're good, we're only good because we blob because in fact we're terrible, but when we're terrible, and say as much, we oughtn't be allowed so say as much? Please clarify.
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FA isn't anywhere near Venal at the moment, aside from the occasional roam. We're busy feeding kills to Mordu's Angels as we switch capitals.
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And likewise, if one of us gets in trouble, Goons happily show up with massive numbers of defenders. That's sort of how coalitions work (or at least, how they are supposed to work).
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I completely disagree. We need at least *five* times the number to take on elite-bushido alliances on the Field of E-space Honor.
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plz no txt when poastin internetz forums k also use puctuation like this.
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VeneralCo is the proper term, I think.
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My god man wipe the elo gizz off your mouth. it's always fun to watch BL get all bent out of wack when they are reminded that being an internet space hero means about shit allBut yes I bow to your awesome virginity and promise to never come take your sov
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The fact that you can't spell "jizz" speaks volumes about your education.And you calling me a virgin with an avatar like that, ooooh lawdy.
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well i am not as well educated about "jizz" as you apparently are. Would you call yourself highly educated about jizz... maybe we should call you professor jizz.And yes ... i am calling you a virgin, well at least a virgin in the traditional sense.... you do seem to know a lot about "jizz"As for my avatar.... I don't give 2 fucks enough to build my eve profile here... ya know with me having a life and all ...
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I am very very disapointed than I am not on this list. Consider yourself DEMOTED
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You might want to look up the numbers for SMA and FCON before you post. Your stuck on stupid is showing..
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your soo mad, both of you lol, wheres the love?
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I am confirming that i am indeed mad ... I just dropped my toast and it landed fucking butter side down .... AGAIN !!!!! OH THE FUCKING RAGE .... why must it ALWAYS LAND BUTTERSIDE DOWN.
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Keep quiet or I'll kill your tengus.
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Please don't, their carebears are infinitely more retarded than goons. Though, lawn and fcon are just as bad. Oh, fuck it, kick them, I have plenty of targets to feed on.
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After the conquest of Tribute was complete, the CFC went into "peace mode." The major players of the war, including FCs, tower fuelers, and scouts, took a much-needed break. During this time, the fighting and leading of fleets fell to more junior FCs and squad leaders. Deploying to places like Syndicate and Curse, Goons were enjoying some blessedly structure-free PVP, until yesterday.

Black Legion. along with The Retirement Club [401K] have been reinforcing towers in Venal, beginning with Plat and then moving up to Technetium. These towers mostly belong to, and have been defended by, SMA and FCON. The results of the inital fights have been unflattering to the CFC - the junior FCs involved were unprepared for dealing with the organization and tactical flair of BL. Some of the more brutal losses can be seen here.

Yesterday saw two tech moons coming out of reinforced mode. One of these was in Euro prime, yielding 500 CFC members to protect it, resulting in a non-fight. The second tech moon came out late USTZ, the CFC's numbers were terribly small, and the tech moon was yielded. With BL. and 401k dropping towers in UQ9 almost daily, and the loss of this technetium source, the war drums began to beat with this broadcast from Mittani: 

Gentlegoons, the time for war may once again be upon us. While we have enjoyed our holidays, Black Legion has broken off its defense of Solar and slunk home to Venal, where Elo Knight has ganged up with fellow travellers 401K - most notable for containing many ex-BoB corps and Sir Molle - and have begun chewing on CFC towers in the area. These towers might just be the odd plat or tech moon, but we are bored and it is time to overreact badly and with crushing force over the next few weeks, which has absolutely nothing to do with my eternal, seething hatred of anything with an Evolution corp ticker. 

Rydis, Goonswarm's Sky Marshal, had this to say:

i hate to spoil the illusion, but i guess it's time to strap one on and do something about it

BL. and 401k are expected to continue to reinforce towers that are further than one jump from Deklein. Things may intensify as BL. earns the fights they crave.

Kcolor, primary cap FC of the CFC. @KcolorCFC Did I interest you in EVE? http://tinyurl.com/cff4nrd Did I interest you in LoL? http://tinyurl.com/b9ezx8h