Playboy on Vile Rat

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Vile Rat fully deserved it.He was working for the military-industrial complex and, in some strike of poetic justice, was executed by the very same people his bosses are funding to slaughter people in hundreds of thousands.I'm not expecting goons to understand this, though. I've been to SA and saw it was a full-blown hive of social engineering for the greater good of the western power structure.Most of you people are downright clueless and get high on other people's suffering. You will be reincarnated as battery chicken, it will probably tickle your fancies :^)
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Playboy actually gave EVE, Vile Rat and Benghazi a fair shake. I had no idea he was a fellow San Diegan, which makes me even more sad I started playing EVE too late to ever see him in action.To be fair about the Tigerlily part (which reads like something you'd expect more from Penthouse), there was just that 50B ISK heist by a woman using her feminine wiles on unsuspecting spergs.
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Thats nice, so your not a CIA front.some aspects of this game really do reflect real life, Just when you think your safe and secure, you have the best defence, the best weapons, all the Intel. when the mob rises up against you, your going down.
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I read this when I got home from work yesterday (my work is fairly easy on NSFW stuff, but Playboy was definitely pushing it). It's a good write up and brought a tear to my eyes. Again.RIP Vile Rat.
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I'm still new to the CFC, yet every now and again I hear some funny and awesome things about VR plus the occasional 'Shoot Blues, Tell Vile Rat' in mumble. I kind of wish I got to meet him. RIP Mate.
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Technically, it was suspecting spergs, which made it more epic.
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Well, yeah, but that wasn't Tigerlily, still don't know who that is..
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I still think CCP needs to make a monument dedicated to all EVE players who have lost their lives.Perhaps out in a system 'below' the New Eden pipe.
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I think the Tigerlily bit was simply an easy way to help the 'Playboy' readership relate to the game and a way to give people an idea of the extent of activities that takes place in EVE. I haven't read a playboy in ages but if they still have those 'personal story' types of things then that's a pretty close parallel to cyberwhores in EVE and quickly shatters any prejudice that the game might get for being an MMO where traditionally things are kept safe for the kiddies.It's not perfect, but if you think about it it's quite hard to really put into words what kind of freedom you enjoy in the world of EVE. At least I continue to have a hard time with it and I've tried to explain the game to quite a few people over the years :P
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Yeah, I thought the article was pretty well written. I agree with you about how hard it is, every time I fire up Skype and see Sean still in my contacts, I get sad all over again.Reading the article at work was hard not because of the partially naked women in the sidebar, but because it nearly made me cry again.
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I saw a comment yesterday of someone using the Benghazi incident in a way to define the Obama Administration's performance and about threw up.I wish I remember where I saw it but after reading it, I was so disgusted I just closed the browser.
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Though I do play eve, I knew VR more through D&D on the SA forums, an environment where you do get a pretty good idea of peoples views on stuff (Usually by everyone beating each other on the head until a mod has to step in and make everyone be nice again, in this case, the mod more often than not was VR himself) , and whilst I probably wouldn't call him a frothing liberal (at least by D&Ds standards, he was definately no conservative. His views where a lot more complex and nuanced than just rooting for the home team, and thats what made him a good mod, he wasn't just going to moderate for the purpose of letting his guys win, he moderated to let everyone have a say, as long as you where not a crazy person. In this context then it was utterly galling to see his pointless and unfair death being used as a political football by the conservative penut gallery as if his legacy was now *their* property. If he had to choose to die, he wouldn't have wanted to die for THAT. I mean OK I can deal with the Glen Beck nonsense. We laughed at beck on SA, and I'm fairly certain VR would have been pissing himself laughing at the Goonswarm-as-CIA thing, but the fact that the whole thing grew teeth and became part of the right wing narrative was far less entertaining, because whilst VR was *not* a color-by-numbers liberal in the easy to define sense, he was far from a right winger.Personally I just wished they'd let his community bury their dead, and leave his wife and close friends in peace.
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I miss him terribly :(
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I am a bit stunned by your inability to see the murder of your friend for what it really was. Politics gone bad and CAUSING the murder of your friend.All the while you are willing to rail against the "drunk conservative" (its not like he told you to go kill yourself) for reminding you that in fact, Obama and his team owe the public and you answers.Did you get those answers? Or do you realize that the answers are just to awful for your own ideology (don't worry I still never got mine from bush and friends). Well I still want them, not just because of vile rat, but because these types of stupidity shape the future of our country. Yes amazing as it is, outside in the real world we care about the events of Benghazi and its effects on our lives in the future. (That's a nice way of saying, its not always about you)YES, Benghazi and incidents like them SHAPE the future of our lives.... STUPID POLICIES MAKE STUPID WARS LATERJust as Saddam.But we will never get the answers we need. Do you know why? Because of people like you..... just like the asshat party line fuckers who snow-jobbed for bush, your snowjobing for Obama. Instead of screaming for answers to the MURDER of your friend you are doing a version of politicking yourself. You pull a political Rodney king and yet as the same time you "force" yourself to talk about the crazy of glen beck then turn and rail against the use of Mr. Smiths death as a tactic for media and the people to drive their own slant.WTF do you think your doing now?We never heard much about how Seans Family is getting along, how well the fundraiser went, none of the personal things that celebrate his life and the way he touched lives and STILL impacts lives. Yes he may have been a liberal, but it shouldn't define his life nor his death. Yet this is the only attribute you provide for him in this wall of text.Playboy's article was great, your preface on the other-hand was not.
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Thanks for proving my point; you can get in line after Glenn Beck.
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Almost every item inside Eve—from the spaceships to the towers—is created, distributed and sold by the players. To earn money, players work at in-game jobs—seemingly menial tasks such as smashing rocks or driving a delivery truck. For hours a day. As in reality, sex can be a currency. One of the game’s most notorious players, a busty blonde avatar named Tigerlily, is a self-described “sexpionage agent.” She plies her trade in Pleasure Hubs, sections of Eve devoted to gambling and sex. She waits for high-profile pilots to fly through and then flirts with them in chat—hoping to lure them into a private chat session where they can have full-blown cybersex. “When you’re presented with a sex slave and all she wants to do is suck your cock, it works out quite well,” she says.
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Go ahead and just shoot yourself now buddy, no kidding, no "haha internets is so funny" just do it. Save us from your mouth breathing ignorance, and the possibility that your faulty genes might be added to the communal pool and infect our society for another generation.
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Congrats, you're a horrible tool.
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As long as you hop in line with Rachel Maddow, Kieth Oberman, Al Sharpton.Need i go on?
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Your a toolshed
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WOW please kill yourself.
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Straight Face incapable of feeling sorrow for multiple parties at the same time, has apparently not evolved beyond cro-magnon status.
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you should not be here, and prob wont after this. Goodbye turd faggot
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good words, good article, good man.
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Dude, get a clue. The point is really very simple: whatever you think about the politics, that issue is a separate one from the simple truth that the people who knew VR mourn his loss all on its own. That sorrow isn't a matter of politics or policy. It doesn't care who is right or wrong. And they, and VR, deserve the simple human decency of allowing them their grief without always turning it into some big production about bludgeoning your political foes with your outrage.If you want to rage on the politicians for their faults, great. That's your right. But don't come in and shit on someone else's pain to further your cause celebre. Show some basic human decency, please.
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so RL diplos and security agents play eve. And RL media talking heads talk about eve. And RL tinfoil hattery seeps into eve articles.When do the video game diplos start talking to the real diplos, and the digital tinfoil join up with the RL tinfoil. We already have RL media talking to video game media.I want to see the middle east resolved with a titan transaction.
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Let's be fair here, the only reason the right took it up is because the left largely chose to ignore the failure. If the same situation had occurred under a Republican administration, the roles would have been reversed. In closing, they're all scum and we're morons for continuing to pay them any mind.
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It really was a great article.
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This is really the heart of my issue with all of the Mittani "Vile Rat" post.You say "deserve the simple human decency of allowing them their grief without always turning it into some big production"But then he says " angry conservative pointing his finger at me and declaring, apropos of nothing in the middle of a conversation about spaceships"Does he know this person is a conservative? WHAT NO liberals are angry at Obama?And the saddest part of all this is, if it had been bush then everyone would DEMAND ANSWERSSure its important to let people morn, but lets not kid ourselves here. You say, "But don't come in and shit on someone else's pain to further your cause celebre."Who wrote the article, who trweeted his disdane of those who would "make this political" and who, even after everyone has forgotten about that idiot faggot Glen Beck, feels it important to bring this up OVER AND OVER AGAIN.AGAIN, I would love to hear of people celibrating Sean smith's life, talking of the effects he had on them, and even yes that they miss him. But there is none of that hereThe point I was making is 2 fold, 1) If you don't want to make this a conversaion about politics then, don't bring up politics 2) If I thought that someone had information about what happened to my freind, I would DEMAND ANSWERSSadly I think most of the "its not about politics" is a desprate attempt to normaize this terrible lose of life, forget the obvious reality that no one is giving answers to the real questions, and directing the outrage that should be towards the persons who made such terrible decisions, towards people that they won't have to vote for in 2016.Afterall its going to be a lot easier to vote for hilary in 2016 if you spend these years convincing yourself that she wasn't responsible.
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Hows that autism working out for you buddy?
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Seriously, take it elsewhere man, or just sit on it for a few months. Let folks bury their dead.
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Hey, I think something's up with your capslock key, buddy!
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:tinfoil:Shiny side in or shiny side out?
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Great article and I agree the art work is perfect.
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They're talking about Tigerlily Fenix, I think. I seem to recall that she setup some kind of brothel thing in Eve years back. I think CCP shut it down for an EULA violation of some kind or something. It was years ago though and I'm having trouble finding it.
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Your probably right. I just get disgusted at people when they decry politics and in the same breath inject political stupidity into half thier rantThe playboy article was spot on. RIP VR
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Unironically read Playboy for the articles today.
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And he was there doing what good he could in spite of that.
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Studies show people are more upset by the death of a friend than the death of strangers. News at 11.
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People must get along with you oh so well.
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For once I want to read playboy for the articles
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Wouldn't call deaths in car accidents or at war "normal". That's same tragedy for friends and family, and it happens all the time. Playing it for political (or actually any) gains is just weak, but those are the costs of passing out with the bang; at least his minors "are set up till college"..
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You're
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Attention is what separates political mouth pieces from street-corner conspiracy crazies.
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A bit naive on your part, whining on about the political fallout of the events in Benghazi. Last time I checked, our gov was a political machine, and our State Dept diplos were cogs in that machine. To demagogue the Right for their outrage at the Benghazi murders and the stupidity that lead up to it is simply righteous leftist air exiting your body. If one feels deep sadness at the events, they can express that. If one feels outrage, they can express that. Who made the Mittani the "Lord of Political Correctness"? Ha. Such hypocrisy here.Funny thing is, one would think that if the Vile Rat was such a dear friend, one would be more outraged at those that used his name and tragic story to further their own business interests. The murders in Benghazi were tragic and effected many so why not make money off of them by selling magazines, books, or web-site hits? It it obviously a hugely emotional, if not rational, event for many so perhaps leveraging the story into say a web-site banner or a Glenn Beck TV show seems like a good idea. Kudos.
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It is a very nice article
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Let's be fair here - repubs don't know shit about opsec, like maybe we shouldn't be holding public hearings where any old jihadi from Tim McVeigh to al-Zawahiri can hear a clue. The fringe, whichever flavor, can't let any 'theory' or opportunity to spout pass. And yeah, Glenn Beck near anything is a bad idea. RIP Vile Rat.
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Thats low dude. I'm a vet and have seen a lot of people die. Some have been close friends and, as someone stated before me, I felt more pain from their loss than from 60 taliban insurgents/civilians. Thats called psychology you fuck steak. It doesn't mean i'm a bad person, it just means that I did not have an emotional connection with them. Also, its considered to be a coping method. I hope your family and friends are aware of your statement so that when you kick it and someone is standing up at your funeral to give a speech, they pause for a moment and say "who gives a shit? Theres more important things in the world" and then everyone walks away. Same shit as you're saying. If you say that you're fine with that you're a lying douche. In the end, go fuck yourself you self righteous twat.
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hello, boys *giggles*
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nvm
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Totally agree. He should fill the void in his skull with a brain. And that is Mr. Beck Im talking about ;).
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isn't it about time goons sopped grieving over this, it's getting a bit patheticafter 6 months, the only people that should be still grieving is his family and real life friends, YES REAL LIFE FRIENDSi think its an insult to VR memory and pretty pathetic, that all these gonnies,most of who are 14 years old and younger and never seen a pair of breasts yet, mourn over a guy, after 6 months, who they have never met. Cause they feel they need to for Shittians appreciationAt the end of the day, he should not have been their, illegal war by George Bush, etc etc etcIF VR been half of a man, he would not have been involved in that war, and left the USA miltary and therefore not dieleave the grieving to his wife, children, and his real life friends, GOON's, stop pretending you feel sad, after 6 months, as you never fucking new him
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Keep aside the fact that you can not even spell properly, the only one here who is pathetic is you.First off, Vile Rat was not a soldier, he was not in the US Military, he was a diplomat in Libya working with the US Ambassador there. Secondly, this was not a illegal war by George Bush, because this is not Iraq, this is Libya, and if you had considered for a second that the two are different countries maybe we wouldn't be here.Not only was Vile Rat not a soldier and not involved in a war, and not in the US Military, but your opinion about soldiers being cowards for serving their country shows an enormous disrespect towards those who have died doing so.And what is wrong with showing your respect and sympathy for a man who was killed unjustly serving his country. What is wrong with mourning a man who some Goons knew for years and not only through a computer screen.You're post here is an insult to Vile Rat's memories, everyone else is not pathetic, it is you who is a coward. Your "opinion" is invalid, as you do not even know the basic facts. You are just a bitter shell of a man hiding behind the anonymity of the internet, spewing words of hate as you have nothing better to do.
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Let us know if you're capable of organizing a print/lithograph buy of the artwork, I'd love on
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Its not about injecting politics. Vile rat was the moderator of a political debate forum and had definite, although complex , views. Us, his e-friends, don't like his name being used as a symbol of what he himself opposed. Its disrespectful to him , his friends and his legacy. he's not an abstracy symbol, he was a living breathing person, one with a family.
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Mittens WAS his real life friend. As in go-to-the-pub-with type friend.
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Um. Hello. Quite a writeup you got in there.
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Well attention or failing that a massive network TV budget.
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I still have Rixx Javix's memorial wallpaper on my desktop.
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I don't think he is on network TV
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...Stand with Sean's momDEMAND ANSWERS

Playboy wrote an excellent piece about Vile Rat, and you should go read it. Some of it is a little weird—like who the hell is 'Tigerlily', anyway?—and you shouldn't read it from your work computer (although by modern standards Playboy seems almost G-rated). I really like the art that Playboy had made for the article, though; I wonder if we can get a print?

It's been six months and I'm still profoundly bitter about Benghazi; it's hard to talk about it without feeling selfish, which is kind of odd considering that rationally one should be 'OK' with being utterly fucked up about one of your best friends being murdered.

One of the nice things about the Playboy piece is that it does point out how Benghazi was politicized during the election season, which made the tragedy even harder to deal with. I recall at Eve Vegas, mere weeks before the election, a drunken, angry conservative pointing his finger at me and declaring, apropos of nothing in the middle of a conversation about spaceships, that I should be mad at Obama because of my friend's death. Thanks, guy. It was deeply ironic that Benghazi was turned into some kind of a political martyrdom on the rightmost fringes of American election warfare, considering that Sean was an avowed liberal (though hardly a color-by-numbers party follower) at heart.

My point here is not 'this political tribe was wrong and I am mad at them'; the point is that when there is a 'normal' death (within societally prescribed levels of normal: cancer, declared war, car accident, old age, heart attack, etc.), it is a personal tragedy and something the grieving survivors quietly deal with on their own. In the case of Benghazi, it became a political football squabbled over in the national media endlessly by people who had never met any of the victims, which was pretty goddamned awful if you were one of the aforementioned aggrieved survivors. In a national tragedy, some feel entitled to tell you, aggrevied person, how you should feel about what happened - since they watched some television and were bestowed a couple of irrelevant talking points to endlessly repeat. 

And then there's the media:

Here's some dude you've never met who has never met Sean: let's put a camera in his face and have him sound off about your buddy! Hey, can we get you on one of tonight's shitty talk shows during our news segment—since we can't find the crying widow, can we get a crying best friend? Also, can you please put us in touch with the crying widow? Wait, why aren't you helping us exploit the crying widow for our ratings???

Personal tragedies typically avoid the lunatic fringe; national tragedies force the fringe upon you, and I'm not even talking about the nonsense that we call journalism in the USA. On this website we periodically have to clean up the comments section on the original Vile Rat obituary because of nutters and/or human garbage offering their enlightened views about how Sean was actually a CIA agent and thus deserved it, how it's the fault of evil imperialist American foreign policy, or how it was because of 'karma' for (a) being American, (b) being in Goonswarm, (c) being CIA, or (d) ganking miners in EVE Online. The crazy gets much worse if you look at Twitter where the #benghazi hashtag is a howling maelstrom of politicized lunacy.

Looking back at the madness of the election year with Glenn Beck saying that Goonswarm is a CIA front and dealing with the 'mainstream media', it was like a bad acid trip, except that we haven't woken up from it and Sean is still dead.

That said, there were some glimmers of not-awful. The fundraiser for Sean's family was a smashing success, ensuring that his children won't be fucked for college. Half of nullsec's stations still have VR memorial names (though after a certain point I thought it was getting morbid, and had GSF's swapped back to their old names) and the EVE community has been very supportive, the odd bit of aforementioned human garbage nonwithstanding. 

So: Good piece by Playboy, probably one of the best-written on the topic yet in the mainstream media. Well worth a read, though it leaves me feeling kind of morbid as it rips the scab right off. 

In conclusion, Glenn Beck can suck my dick.

Goonswarm Federation CEO, Space Tyrant. Likes yoga, Alaskan Malamutes, bacon, and delegation.