Nulli Secunda Member Corp Pillaged

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Nulli I tears best tears.
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TunaKross stated that there is “to much piece in wormholespace [sic],” and that BITIT’s long-term goal is to “make war, not pizza.”Visionary. :golfclap:
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Haha, a nullsec alliance threatening BITIT with eviction is like threatening a fat man with free cake. I know how happy and excited BITIT will be by this.
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VETO was a bit of a mess anyway in the aftermath of Transmission Lost and getting integrated into S2N, but the guys I've talked to aren't too worried and it's just a matter of time till things are set up in the next hole.I wouldn't expect to see the entire N3 Coalition show up for an eviction, but you can be sure they're going to be able to pull some numbers when fleets are posted promising PVP. Looking forward to fights in the future as always.
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dont all null seccrs want local removing?
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Only the retarded ones.
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Mass limits and WH effects are what screw over the nullsec invasion plans. Would be funny if they used gilas with warriors in certain ones or shields in a wolf-rayet. Over all WH has more bling to use and VoC as an example has showed how fights like that end up. Personally I think S2N will end up being a 100 LB girl in the ring with Mike Tyson no gloves.
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"The explicit threat was that the N3 nullsec coalition would launch an eviction operation and that BITIT would be “burnt to the ground in the end.”":cripes:Yeah thats the only response I have to that one, couldn't you at least come up with something mildly logical as a threat Ali? A nullsec block invading a wormhole, come on man come on.
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I think moreso than bling, the WH groups have more experience in running very tight fleets with skilled pilots and are able to get every advantage they can out of their environment whereas in my experience nullsec guys tend to be alot weaker in PVP at that scale (talking 20 - 30ish pilots)
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saying that n3 is going to stage some massive eviction over some trivial corp theft when your source isnt even the CEO of said corp let alone in a position of coalition leadership is retarded. Im sure Veto and whatever nulli bros wanna try out K-space will bounce back, but coalition ops on a wormhole? no...
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The amusing thing is it is more than double li3's alliance wallet loss and I doubt anyone really cares apart from say someone who lost their ratting ship.
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if first bass is not being totally serious, he should be shot.
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Just keep let me know when they make this attempt so I can safely rape their anoms...
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Ali was essentially the corp CEO at the time, as the actual CEO decided to go on vacation before this all went down. After this it's unlikely he'll be back at all.
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And we would deny all help that would be available. If nulli wants to come at us we will not call in any help. We have no blues or buttbuddies like the other wh alliances do these days. The simple fact is that we dont want it. We have no interest of support creation of large wormhole coalitions.
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nulli wants a coaltion to dec a corp because they cant manage roles. for shame
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People will show up uninvited just to have a target rich environment... ;)
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The most likely thing to happen is for nulli to kick Ali and EO out for the red headed step children that they are. This is the second eviction that Ali has threatened this week. Evidently Ali is still butthurt over losing a couple of Nids last week. Ali leaving Kairro is the best thing that could have happened for the group formerly known as TL. Quit your crying Ali and go back to C2 life because you sure as hell are not a big enough dog to sit on the C5 porch.
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The only involvment S2N had in all of this was simply allowing VETO aboard following the dissolution of LOST and any post debating the competence of S2N or any "tears" they may be shedding is misguided and completely misinformed. Dress it up as you'd like, however, as a former, long standing director in VETO I can accurately say this whole event was simply the result of an individual (Zephyr) betraying the trust of a good bunch of guys at a highly critical moment of transition- not new nor "news". VETO was left with a simple choice after Zephyr's first act of thievery - kick all new hires or bide our time and wait for more definitive evidence of whom was at fault. We agonized over this choice for weeks before deciding that the potential loss of more assets was outweighed by kicking new hires "en masse" without the benefit of due process. In summary, I stand behind our choices at VETO, even though it resulted in this unfortunate loss of our home hole and assets, because it allowed us to maintain our corporate culture of fair and even-handed management of our pilots. Trolls will troll and those who's lives revolve around pointless "politicking" will make much of the fragments of the truth they have but the reality is this is "much ado about nothing". Those that take valuable time from their day to throw darts at the groups that were taken advantage of solely to accentuate the negative aspects of this and throw around their misinformed opinions are the true losers here. Now... let the ill-formulated, low brow and often misspelled rebuts begin!!
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Ali did not lose the Nids nor was even in the DOC when it happened. Get your facts straight or, by all means, keep advertising to the world that you can't accurately read a KM.....
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This story is incorrect, the spy was the alt of a BITIN Director.
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Then we will just have a target rich enviroment :D
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They're in W-Space for a reason.Because they can't hang with the big names.
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here's a secret: no one really cared about Li3 losing 21b. It's propaganda and drama.
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IM ON IT.
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Man I just went buck wild on a bunch of EN24 style commenting. You guys need to step your game up and contribute to a meaningful discussion, or get postcocked. FYI, I have an alt in a wormhole, so this isn't "Grr F wormholers or grrr F nullsec" thing, this is motherfuckers being god damn retarded in the comments needing a slap down.
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shut your fucking mouth and prepare for the karma to come back and bite you in the ass. You have no one who can help you because your a "wildcard" so now your just pawns in other ppls plans. Enjoy being used and no blues. your gonna wish you had friends (ever wounder why biteme cant get along with anyone!?). You cant handle a full invasion and if you could you'd tell ppl where to come find you. But You Wont. You only do that to ppl you rape cage in a pos
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Yet it was posted, editors must be going for low hanging fruit. Stop getting talent from Riverini.
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The point about the Li3 post was that Li3 is fucking stupid, not that somebody should care about 21b.
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Implying I have a say in what gets published.
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So what you're saying is that you need us to give you bookmarks and then the invasion is coming?
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Too bad they are going up against the best. Second best will have to do.
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You would seem to be somewhat mad bro.Could you clarify a point for me, if we have no blues, do our own thing and have and no relations with other WH entities, how can we be a pawn in other people's plans?Here's the thing, if you want to invade us, put in the effort, faggot up and bring along your 100-150 frenemies and see what it gets you...
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BITIT simply don't need to live in a sea of blues to do what they do. Instead of madposting about it why not actually try and invade them, see how far that gets you.
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And the miss informed continue to read into propaganda its sad really.....
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Ali didn't have to be there but old TL leadership sent us chat logs where Ali is threatening to seige us over the nid incident. Figuring out who "us" is easy. Just check to see who got the publicity on that nid gank. Just like biteme we welcome a fight in our home system. Logistics makes it laughable.
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Any particular reason some mod deleted my comment? Seems on this site if a mod doesnt like someones opinion they delete it.
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No, that's not why it was deleted, it was probably shitpost, and the mods are VERY particular about those that try to shitpost around here!
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A lot of times disqus just devours comments into the spam filter for no obvious reason. If a mod /actually/ deleted your comment, you'd also be ip banned and wouldn't be able to post commenting about missing a comment!

Misplaced Corporate Roles Strike Again

On Monday, March 11, a Nulli Secunda <S2N> member corporation, Executive Override [VETO.], was the latest victim in a series of high profile w-space thefts. Much like the most recent heist targeting Insidious Design, VETO was set up by an inside man with outsized roles, a mistake that cost their members over 50B ISK. What made this incident unique is that the inside man had no meaningful connection to Bite Me Inc. [BITIT], the corporation that provided the muscle and manpower required to pull it off. BITIT was merely called in as “guns for hire” to help secure and move the assets in question.

Players outside of VETO and BITIT first learned of the theft when screenshots of the loot appeared in a Reddit thread late Monday. In a lengthy and detailed follow-up comment, Zephyr Nomad recounted what he claims was a year-long plot to steal as much as he could from his unsuspecting marks and provided a general outline of the operation itself. Other than his name, not much is known about Zephyr Nomad. He was invited but not available for my interview with TunaKross of BITIT, and BITIT itself knew little about Zephyr aside from the fact that he provided access to billions of ISK. The account he created on Reddit has only been used to post the story and answer questions about the heist.

According to Alisyana, the VETO member I spoke with, Executive Override was in the process of integrating some new members and transitioning to their new home within Nulli Secunda at the time of the theft. The VETO leadership team had actually completed a security and roles audit the previous day, and Zephyr had the roles he did only because of an administrative error by Xermish, VETO’s CEO. Alisyana did not know exactly how Zephyr made it onto the list of members who could be trusted with sensitive roles, but he did.

Storm Clouds on the Horizon

When I spoke with TunaKross, he explained that they hadn't been motivated to help by the ISK, but instead by the prospect of retaliation by Executive Override. As many in the w-space community are aware, BITIT is something of a wildcard, encouraging open conflict with other groups and having little use for diplomatic ties. TunaKross stated that there is “to much piece in wormholespace [sic],” and that BITIT’s long-term goal is to “make war, not pizza.”

If VETO leadership gets their way, war and conflict is precisely what BITIT can expect. In conversations with TunaKross while the theft was in progress, and later when speaking with me, Alisyana promised that “at some not to be disclosed point in the future, Tuna will see the fight he's supposedly asking for.” The explicit threat was that the N3 nullsec coalition would launch an eviction operation and that BITIT would be “burnt to the ground in the end.” At the same time, he was quick to point out that “we're a sov alliance, and we have higher priorities at the moment.” TunaKross laughed at the prospect of an N3 eviction, claiming that the promised retaliation “looks like it's gonna be fun,” in keeping with their devil-may-care attitude.

Perhaps to bolster the credibility of the threat, Alisyana explained to me that many players in nullsec are eager to experience the kind of small gang warfare found in wormhole space, and that “if I were a w-space group, what i'd be worried about, is what the sov guys are gonna do when they AREN'T fighting over some sov space.” Even so, it remains to be seen if a nullsec powerbloc can effectively fight a major w-space group in its natural habitat. AAA was famously stopped in its tracks by a veritable cross-section of wormhole organizations during their attempted eviction of Wormhole Holders last April, and to date, the goal of evicting a well-established wormhole group has eluded the nullsec powerblocs. While the part of these failures may be a lack of commitment on nullsec's part, this may change as nullsec groups expand their wormhole operations, bringing them into greater conflict with wormhole residents.

Straight outta J115405, I'm a wormhole resident and director in Hard Knocks Inc. When not writing about wormhole PvP and events in the greater w-space community, I enjoy jokes about Kazakhstan and the occasional glass of delicious tears.