Li3 Alliance Wallet Stolen

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Cue Failscade.
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Cue Failscade!
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ALREADY REPLACED, SCRUBS
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Mandozer.
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Confirming Sov bill due date: 03/15
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Just 21bil? Are they really that poor?
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Why did we let these shitlords in again?
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damage control!
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Who is Li3?
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some random retards who think they're important.
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i have more isk, on my cyno alts.
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Jade has a wicked crash habit
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The director and his staff are fucking morons, i feel sorry for the people following them..
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We don't want them back, you can keep them
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Jade seems to move from one cock up to another. How long until Li3s CEOs lose faith? Certainly it'll be hard to convince new corps to join.Li3 are turning out to just be a new SMA.
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My god this is hilarious. Constant rumors of Jade stealing alliance ISK, check. 10min old alt char given roles and then steals alliance ISK, check. Char gets bio-massed, check. Jade valiantly proclaims alliance ISK has already been "replaced" (didn't want that 21bn anyway), check. I guess Jade wanted to take slightly more ISK for himself this time whilst remaining the alliance CEO.
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So is he just not going to write a response about how he's embessling (SP, not my language) 1bil a day? Maybe that's why they are so poor.
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the briefcase does nothing!
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Free Bruscettas.
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TIL my personal wallet is bigger than a sov holding alliance, and that was before they got robbed.
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Erm, isn't scamming via identity theft actually one of the very few scam methods specifically banned in the EULA? Not sure if its enforcable for out of game services (probably not) but this is pretty borderline.
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I'm sure they'll be fine, CFC looks after special snowflakes very well. However; I do find the suggestion in that statement from Jade that getting trolled by TEST or scammed makes you relevant highly amusing.
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Embezzling, you were pretty close (English is confusing). The question here is who you believe. It is possible that JadeCougar was stealing 1 billion isk per day, and it is also possible that this is an outright lie in order to stir up drama and deal more damage.
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If they petition it they'll just look like scrubs. Best to let it be.
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I don't know if the claim is that the ISK is "already replaced" so much as "we are over what has happened" (see context of claim). Also, I find it fascinating that you are not the only one to automatically assume that what the thief says about the CEO stealing isk is true.That being said, this is still a pretty large blunder. Scratch that, this is worse than finding out your Titan just jumped through instead of bridging. When people get lazy and lack discipline, things like this happen.
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Fatal Ascension just moved up their timeline to topple li3 and hoover up the leftovers
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Teamspeak is a third party app so no
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I dunno, it's already pretty well known that jade bought himself a super out of the alliance wallet. I expect soon he'll upgrade to a Titan (I hear he's asked member corps to donate towards it).
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TIL: I am richer than a sov holding alliance. After they got robbed.
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It's your space anyway isn't it ?
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CFC should have kept AIF. At least their drama was somewhat amusing, and noone lost an alliance wallet.
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You're crying p hard mate. And one sad of an excuse of a person. Test deserves pieces of shit like you. Thank God you're over there with the rest of the 13 year old's who have longer pubic hairs than their penis.
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damage control
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From the EULA -" No player may use the character name of another player to impersonate or falsely represent his or her identity."The infiltrator, we'll call him, made a character with 1 off letter in the name of a known alt to IMPERSONATE said known alt in an attempt to gain roles, favor, scam, rob, etc...EULA broken. Period. You sir, do not know the entire story. Or you can't read. I'm banking on both.
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"Thefts like these happen all the time and happen to everyone."nope. thefts happen to (more or less) everyone. thefts that rely on a random alt being given director roles because your alliance executor cba to doublecheck are pretty rare.
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Proof? (see what I did there?)
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You can't comprehend very well can you?You always need those retards to lower the bell curve, well done sir well done
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Wait what? angry? fuck no, you guy were useless as a third nut, all you guys did was jew anoms 24/7 and barely should up for any STRAT OPS. Keep smoking that cack
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aren't you the drunk who rides around on a motorcycle warning everyone that all the chinese living in america will one day rise up and conquer us?I suggest you up your medication and reduce the alcohol
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I don't think so, do you know how much it costs to take sov space?
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I'm more concerned about the fact that the CEO has been making withdrawals of about 1bn a day. Given the low amount of ISK in the alliance wallet, this isn't surprising.
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I actually couldn't care less about Li3.
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I bet you have interesting opinions about the Bible as well.Also- you are absolutely correct, I am incapable of reading.
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That dude is a complete five star retard. Also putting roles on alts ? Should GTFO !Any 12 year old baby would see throught that.
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Any 12 year old who aren't lazy enough to double-check the facts before making the decision, you mean.
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Hey now. They had a small PvP backbone. That backbone is in TEST Friends now.
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Proof?Yeah didn't think so.
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You were largely unknown?Did you completely miss the fact your CEO posted EN24 articles on the fracture of HBC on pleaseignore.com forums AND expelled someone that publicly disagreed with him on the same forums? Not to mention paid for his Hel with isk sent from the alliance money corp ceo? What proof do you people have he sold his BPO collection for his Hel? What proof do I have that he paid with alliance isk for his Hel?We both have neither. But your alliance built stations, refused to do SRP and Jade was swindling money from your alliance wallet at the same time. Not to mention the space he had in Querious was close to 80b in profit from moons alone a month, and he kept fucking that up and refusing to take moons from member corporations.Everyone in TEST knew you were our version of the CFC's SMA. I was very happy to hear you were leaving. Please, continue to self delude yourselves, we all love it.
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I doubt that 21 bil is "damage" for a decent alliance.
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My proof is hearing from the supercap builder himself (the owner of Kaesong Kapitals in the HBC)stating just how Jade was able to afford his super. Again, doesn't mean he's an embezzler since every alliance can benefit from owning more supers, but it is suspicious for the reasons I've already stated. Believe it if you want, but I trust my source.
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Why didn't he hit disbanded? Rookie error.
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Put a 0 after that 21 bil and we're talking.
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How is that stealing, since it's his alliance he can do what he like with tax money?
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I don't think disregarding your membership is "something right".
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He said it in an eve mail, I believe that allows CCP to give the ISK back (it's not like Li3 needs it though).
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It's not stealing as long a he remains with his alliance and uses his super to support it, and I never did use that word to describe it. It's just I'd figure an alliance CEO would want to set up a proper SRP program before buying himself a super.
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and why do you think this isnt the person that was supposedly impersonated?
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"decent alliance"
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Well they've stopped sloping now so I guess that's "something right." Not really showing any signs of recovery though.
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The ISK came from their alliance wallet. If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. Jade's a shitbird - get over it.
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So you heared from a friend of a friend that a friend of his enemy did something, sure proof
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Those same corps also have a bad habit of thinking they should be "consulted" about alliance level decisions in an autocracy. Have fun with them.
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Well, it could have been worst; they did not lost their sovs by not paying bills ;)
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21 bil, LoL, k-space seems to be poor-mans-space. Your average established wh-corp (not alliance) has lying around 10times more (and get it stolen sometimes xD).
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That's an insult to SMA.
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Welcome to Eve Online, trust NO ONE!
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Stop mocking SMA, they're pretty competent compared to jade.
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Li3 is not an average nullsec alliance. They are extremely poorly run.
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http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alli... Changing 1000 butthurt members for better space to grow with new members looks like a decent alliance. vOv
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More just a friend from the guy, Jade, himself. The friend has no reason to profit from lying about this too, and there's no other way Jade could have come up with the money to buy his Hel. Up to you though and everyone else whether to believe this. I'm just passing it along.
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Hmmmm ok I guess I will point out the obvious.It was an inside job..... DERP !!!
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Just clear things up, LI3 was formed from the functional parts of the Space Monkeys Alliance when they got tired of the crap. We took with us SMA's ability to survive, and many of the actual PvPers from SMA with us as an integeral part.. Then joined up with other corps that had shared goals... LI3 is the result. We are grateful to TEST for the breathing space and time to get ourselves organized. But CFC is where we were born and where we belong. Returning to the CFC was not a slap in TEST's face as many would like to think, rather it was a chance for us to go home. And while the Leadership made a mistake that allowed this thief access, The level of compartmentalization that Jadecougar put in place when the alliance was created limited the damage to only one department of the alliance wallet. If I am out of line for saying this, then so be it... it needs to be said.
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You and test seem far better at that than anyone I know.
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no that's what they call a component
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They didn't want that space money anyway!
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He also used in game methods as well
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Another unoriginal hate comment made by non-CFC scrubs.
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Another overused hate comment made by a non-CFC asshat.

In many cultures, Friday the 13th is considered an unlucky day. For Li3, however, it is Wednesday the 13th of March that will come to mind for the foreseeable future. On that day, an alliance mail was sent by an alt named Bullimen to the whole alliance:

Alliance Infiltration
From: Bullimen
Sent: 2013.03.13 15:35
To: Li3 Federation,

Dear Poor Poor Li3,
I have managed to infiltrate your Alliance and steal all the Alliance’s ISK in three days.
This was so amazing that I have to tell the story so all of eve can see how stupid your alliance leader is.

I applied to Li3’s Electric Cucumbers and Razed n’ Confused a few days ago. I managed to get into Razed (thanks Godo) This gave me access to your teamspeak. I then changed my nick name to Daandrah and one of the server admins gave me server admin rights.

About 2 days later Jadecougar who never logs on finally comes into teamspeak. I am not even surprised to find him in the AFK channel. Without even speaking to him, I poked him asking him to accept my alt (Bullimen as Daandrah’s alt is Bulliman) into the main corp of the alliance. I had made this character only 10 minutes prior to the application. The idiot even gave me full director rights. Didn't even speak to me on the teamspeak.

So now I have all your alliances isk, and you all have absolutely nothing.
p.s After going through the master wallet journal to see what it is the excuse of an alliance spends its isk on I noticed the Jadecouger has been giving himself large amounts of isk (over 1 billion isk a day)

Cheers

Thanks Jade

A few hours later, JadeCougar, the Li3 CEO, posted a response to the mail on the Li3 forums:

Title: Statement in response to the alliance mail
Post by: [L-PH] Jadecougar on March 13, 2013, 08:25:43 PM
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Today we were the victim of our own stupidity and temporary reduction of security. Li3 Federation WAS, indeed, robbed of a little over 21 billion ISK in a quick sweep of good timing and use of good friends' character names to trick those to accept him into corp with whom it was needed to pull this off. The one to blame here is me. Period.

While the person (named Bullimen...a variation of a character owned by our Daandrah) only just created the character, the situation was not unlike other instances in the past were director characters move from one corp to another for a specific reason and we'd poke each other on TS or text in game. The truth, however, is that Li3 are truly now in the big leagues. The big leagues of spies and enemies, which clearly we have.

This little so-called 'insignificant' alliance (as has been stated recently) has been getting a lot of attention. Why? We're an alliance with a clear vision and drive to reach it. We are resilient. We don't failcascade where many others would. We don't implode when others try so hard to make that happen with senseless propaganda.

The irony of this is that we have already recovered from this. +1 for the attempt at drama. The truth is...who gives a fuck!

Li3 moves forward. Further security developments are being implemented already to better protect the assets of this alliance.

If you have any questions, contact me. Otherwise, don't waste your time giving this incident any more thought. That mail was an audacious attempt at continuing propaganda against Li3. To that, I say this:  

(Author's note: The remainder of the mail was missing from the version passed to me)

As of writing this, the identity of the mysterious thief has yet to be ascertained due to the fact that the alt Bullimen has been biomassed. While the amount only came to 21 billion ISK (a measly figure for an alliance-level heist), the fact that Li3 security was breached so easily is a cause for concern.

Hi, My name is Targie. I've done everything from High-sec wars, to Low sec Pirating; from Wormholes to 0.0 wars. I'm currently in TEST alliance, where I annoy my corp. mates with bad stories. Follow me on twitter . @TargieMcRed for article updates.