Jita Burns, The Stygian Shore

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It was easy, I keep it in your mother usually.
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Tomorrow, I'm just going to quote whole cantos. :P
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Need more War targets!
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Making money in a fun way involving hundreds of players is not an event?
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actually, they're the complete opposite. in a game where content is player driven, who is driving more content than the CFC/TEST/whoever else is shooting at everything that moves in jita? nobody. that's who.it doesn't matter if you like goons, or hate goons, all you have to realise is that they're great for the game as they push the boundaries and keep things interesting in what could otherwise be a quite stale and dull sandbox.people complain there's no fighting because "blue doughnut lololol" yet when the goons stop and shoot something they're met with "goons are poison". what is it that they should be doing, exactly in order not to garner such idiotic response?
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Oh boy, is it conspiracy theorist time?Time to get out the popcorn.
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Nobody in GSF or elsewhere is stupid enough to brind anything which can be sold at Jita, it is just too dangerous.
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you should also post how many ships you lost (without concord intervention but due to killright activation and wartargets) - your efficiency is clearly not at 100%
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DBRB is the Boatman now because Charon got exploded?
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Look, THORN think they're people.
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Fuck up retard.
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Fuck yeah, burn them all. This is the kind of player driven content people log in to see.
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Oh no, our Destroyer backbone! Whatever will we do without these T1, shitfit ships that we replace in bundles of 50 at a time? Teh Horror.
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EN24 is leaking again~
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Hey Aliza
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You must be one of the most retarded people that walk this earth. Do you know where the PLEXes come from...CCP. People buy the plexes for real money and then sell them ingame for ISK. CCP make more money if people keep buying plexes instead of just paying straight up money/month.
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The Mittani did 9/11. He did it for the platinum insurance payout on the 747s. Unfortunately the reinforcement timer on the towers where bugged.
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"Now you can see, my son, how brief's the sport of all those goods that are in Fortune's care, for which the tribe of men contend and brawl; for all the gold that is or ever was beneath the moon could never offer rest to even one of these exhausted spirits" - Virgil, Canto VII, Dante's Inferno.
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Oh what a wonderful day. :D Whore kills here...bump freighters there...so many activities!
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Way to ignore what he just said. PLEXes don't just pop out of thin air and appear on the market. Someone somewhere paid CCP real money for that PLEX to sell it for ISK. CCP are still getting your month's subscription money when you use a PLEX, you're just dropping ISK to get someone else to pay it for you.
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FFS WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
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wouldn't you be more effective if you didn't "shitfit" them?
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It's fun. Thanks goonies. :3
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Are you smoking your own socks? I guess you really need the kindergarten explanation. (No colored pictures, sorry.)30-day PLEXes cost more than subscribing for 30 days. PLEXes that exist in-game have already been bought and paid for by other people. Therefore, effectively people who PLEX their accounts pay *more money* to CCP than subscribers.
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I'd normally appreciate this, but I wanna sell a rigged tengu. Anyone wanna buy. Only 500 mil.
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I am offended by this. You expended *effort* to mock Skunk's insipid paranoia, entertaining others in the process. In reality, his comment was only worthy of a "gtfo, dickbrain" in response.Proportionality, Mr. O'Neill. Don't raise the bar too high, or people like Skunk will have no place in society.
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Lucian smells like a skunk on a bad mood
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"in what could otherwise be a quite stale and dull sandbox."not really, but he's right on the rest
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I am offended by you getting offended. Bush did 9/11. Obama is leader of CFC.Y U allowed to interwebz ?
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Oh Nos! Not the Destroyers!! We will be broke!
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Only in Eve would something like this be even remotely possible, and i see, once again Goons are driving the headlines
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This line of argument ignores the "velocity" of money within the economy. The velocity of plex is a one time deal as far as CCP is concerned. Once the initial purchase has been made, CCP can no longer monetize the future sales of that plex.
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I just dont have it in me to make fun of people like this. Burn Jita seems like a very good thing to do. I applaud it. But seems that you guys have so many bandwagon (dick) riders that nobody opposes you. I find that disheartening. I totally agree with the event tho. Just Im wondering whats a counter to this event? Besides not going to Jita this weekend. Thats all.
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Official data will be hard to come by. But elsewhere, it has generally be shown that if an individual player wants to make a lot of money, the place to do it is High-Sec. It's more safe, representing fewer instances of loss, and more sustained time gaining income. By comparison, in Low/Null, you're constantly beneath the Sword of Damocles, representing ship losses, cargo losses, and significant time losses. Add to this that you're encouraged(strongly) to blow as much money as you can on combat and war materials. There's more factors still.The result: If you want to meet more SpaceRich players, go to high-sec. A great many nullsec players can support this, via confessing that their money-making alt is in HighSec. Those that spend the most of their time and attention in High-Sec are going to be the ones in the best position, and thus most likely to, subscribe via using their ISK instead of money.So you may wish to reformulate your overall theory.
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I see content mentioned here... good jawbe.That is the point. Highsec asocials jewing flashy mods in their freighters promenading them around. Most of them never spoke to other people in EVE. It is a MMO, not AoE singleplayer. I used to live in highsec as a miner before in Jakanerva, it was over 40 in local all the time, but nobody ever spoke. When I tried... nothing, just silence.Nullsec alliances deliver content that would never occur, because CCP can't have employees roleplaying, that would be just too much money to throw on GMs and storytellers.In nullsec you have the righteous like CVA (jesus they are bad ...), you have stratagem masters like RnK, you have evil bastards CFC or even lovable trolls like TEST. The least a person can do when playing alone is read the damned forums to be informed... fuck it is a lot of time flying a hauler do something except fap fap fap.Or at least don't cry on forums when you die autopiloting your stuff right to the mouth of the monster.
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ccp like goons killing there member ship?
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Confirming this guy is why we burn jita.
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actually, I think the only humanly possible way to get more DPS out of our cat fits is implants....so.....no, they wouldn't be.
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1. Buy (or get for free) cheap gank ships2. Loot dead freighters3. Fund reimbursement program4. Ships = free
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See this is the thing. I was announced weeks ago. There is no unity in highsec. My alliance being part of CFC recieved only a couple of wardecs from people that gank nullsec freighters in Jita, because in nullsec wardec is something really irrelevant. You won't see these cowards forming up a fleet for good fights, you won't see them in sovereign space.People have time to get rich in highsec to gain assets, but all they do is shoot red crosses and spin them in hangars. Maybe next year we will get some opposition, some fleet action, but personally I highly doubt that will ever happen. Without manning up a bit and forming a highsec army we can do our bidding as we wish.
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I have masturbated to this for five minutes. I have no regrets.
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I understand. But the game would be so much fun if folks decided to fight back instead of crying. Im just one person, and ofc id fight against something like this. I'd have so much fun doing it. But alas folks wont. But they should.I understand some folks dont like to pvp and say in high sec just to have fun with the markets and mission. Me being one of those people as well. But I like to pvp also. I like good fights. I just wish there was another famous alliance out there like the Goons that would fight the Goons.High Sec just doesn't have the player mentality to combat an assault on them like this. Miners and Industrialists get beat the hell up and nobody defends them. They probably couldn't defend themselves.I just wish it was an established entity out there that could bring the fight for the pvers as well. Cause they just take it on the chin every time one of these events happen. Makes for a dull universe.
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I had no idea the Mittani was the Obama. I will never interwebz again.
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They talked about you behind you back though. Guess that doesn't count.
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WTF?!?!?!? What is '"Obama money" people' do you speak english? Are you SpaceRomey's disgruntaled ALT who's still PO'd because the 99% won? Go cry a river to Rush Limpbutt
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Malarky: you want to see more spacerich folks you go to WH's
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Nowhere is truly safe. A reminder that this event drives home.
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To my fellow carebears: I know how you feel, I used to feel that way too. Dry your tears and cry no more, I have information that should help. This entire thing boils down to nothing more than predators and prey. Be smarter, faster, tougher, or simply be elsewhere. Don't hate predators, and at the same time don't let yourself be shamed for being prey. Being prey is itself part of the natural order, we take our place in the cycle just as predators do and they rely on us to do it. Just as in the real world it is the sick, the weak, and the careless who get caught by predators, do not be among them. This philosophy will keep you safe, and should save you shedding tears when you fail to keep yourself safe.
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EVE is a lot more fun when you have constant action. The Downtime in the game is unbearable unless you've got fun people in corp to chat to. Fortunately, this event affords me both
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I bet that all it would take is a competent leader to get together a reasonable (albeit inevitably kitchen sink) fleet from the pubbie masses. They would get mercilessly shat upon, but it would be something. If they really cared about highsec they could form up some ridiculous numbers.
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CCP like its members killing its members ships in its member ship killing game for members that CCP made?
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You're a fucking idiot.
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RNK isn't in nullsec. They are a joke.
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Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Amen to this! :)
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I agree with this although to be fair its not just nullies its pretty much everyone outside of hi-sec and even some of those who are in hi-sec. The fact no one ever talks in half the systems in the game (i.e HS) is something that has really started bugging me as of late if you go out to LS you can usually get into a chat with a fairly friendly chap (dont mean he wont kill you on sight) and can even get tips and ideas off others after a fight. Also everyone knew burn jita was going to happen there are at least 4 other main hubs (amarr,hek,rens,dodixie) they could of gone to but nope knowing full well they will die they fly into jita on autopilot then scream at CCP tht the game is broken. then spread crap around the web about the game so tht ppl who otherwise might try the game and enjoy it never try it.
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Have you tried herding cats? it's probably easier than getting highsec residents to organise anything even close to opposing the evil goonies. I'm a highsec resident myself and I find the Goon events highly entertaining, and profitable.
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Not entirely. Since they made it so you can haul plex around, it is possible for it to be destroyed and thus create demand for more.
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Burn Qeynos!
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Spoiler: Noone in the CFC gives one flying fuck about efficiency. The color of our killboard is irrelevant.
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tl;dr: C'mon, sheeple!
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If highsec found the game dull there'd be no occupation of highsec. If nullsec finds the game dull they should pewpew everything more; hghsec, lowsec, nullsec.I have no issue with Jita burning and I'm as carebear as it gets. Its just a larger version of the constant luldecs we live with daily. "Hurr hurr, we're going to dec you, pay us or die.."People who die in Jita should have kept themselves informed. I have been watching with great amusements some of the killmails. Officer fit in highsec... like wearing a pair of thousand-dollar jeans.
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I personally shit on several of your kiting caracals. Any time someone not in a disposable thrasher or tornado showed up on grid, you guys said "TIME TO SAFE UP LEL". You aren't really defending anything, you are just km whoring. I know, I was trying to pick fights all day in a navy domi.
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There is normally no need to organize a defense, as general highsec defense is under the NPC umbrella of Concord ships. There is no need to talk to anyone in local (as someone else pointed out, no discussions happen in highsec local unless it is nonsense) because there's no need to make friends (or enemies) with anyone in our space. Non-wardec related hostile action (ie. "griefing", what they call in low and null "PvP") is consistently present but wholly random and small scale.Because of that lack of a need for highsec corporations to knock on a new neighbors door with a casserole and say welcome to the neighborhood, much less communicate and organize intel in case of a hostile operation from null, highsec corps are neither efficient not have the general motivation to become efficient at organizing at the scale required to take efficient countermeasures again a war action like this.Highsec also cannot enforce its own rule systems on a player level like nullsec does, because we're bound by Wardec / killright / sec-status. If someone kills a friend of mine, if I want to attack that person I will take a standing hit. The punishment for "vigilante action" is harsh.It leads to a neighborhood full of quiet people in heavy overcoats who keep their heads down and do not meet each other's eyes, and in a sense could be considered one of "the problems with highsec" when it comes to interactive gameplay.Anyway, this post is too deep, therefore, boobs.
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I too can put a Target painter on a caracal and whore on kills.
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Yeah I'll grant Noir. perhaps 150-200 kills? and the vast majority of those are frigs and destroyers, with a handful of tornados thrown in. The rest is out-and-out concord killmail whoring, as per that "643" number of kills you had yesterday."save Jita 2.0" amounts to about 2-3 freighters (if we're generous) of dps killed off, compared to the over 110 freighters ganked? Not including all the other faction battleships and haulers.Good job noir, you saved jita alright.
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To be fair, some people read the crap about Eve that's spread around the web by butthurt targets and think "hell yes, this game is for me".
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I know right? Just the other day I saw an old guy beat another old guy at chess. That poor old guy who lost was very sad. And I saw some kids play a game of tag, and one of the kids didn't want to be tagged, and he got tagged and he was sad. And then there was a high school running race, where one guy who trained hard and exercised won the race, but he was shouted at for being elitist and everyone got participation medals because the principal was a hisec freighter pilot.
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Less mad then you are for being so useless a dying cripple looks more effective at pretty much everything.
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yeah, thrashers, tornados, or, you know, a 1bil isk loki.http://noirmercs.com/killboard...
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silly thing is no one actually expects to "save jita." If "kill cfc 2" had any sort of ring to it, we'd call it that.
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it's all good powers we know where your bias leans m8 lol
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Come back when you're a real man:http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_de...http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_de...http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_de...http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_de...(lolol) Its ok turtles, you do much better on the podcast than you do actually playing eve.
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God damn good dunk.
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Sorry son, you are now banned for being a fucking retard. Eat shit.
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Doesn't really have the same ring to it though.Keep being defensive though Goons, it's cool. Noir. "only" got 150-200 kills? Considering the odds, that's p damn nice. And it's more fun for everyone. Unless you're not having fun?
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The blatant propaganda in this "article" is mind boggling. These screen shots don't relfect the actual losses. Not even from the ganks.... yes those do count. Not to mention the 1b+ pods and loki loss
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Have you or someone you know and care deeply about been the victim of this year's Burn Jita event? Do you believe you have a sensible reason why you risked your vessel and entered the conflict area only to lose your ship and its contents to space violence? If so, we want to hear from you.On Wednesday at 00:00 eve time, DJ BigCountry and his merry gang of Misfits will be holding their regularly scheduled show live on Eve Radio. Since Burn Jita was so widely anticipated and publicized, we would like nothing more than to hear from ACTUAL VICTIMS in order to better understand how so many have come to lose their expensive space trucks. Seriously, we're not looking to record your tears for posterity or hear people pontificate about how its wrong and CCP should do something about it. We want to understand how so many in Eve ended up on the wrong side of this year's Burn Jita.So if you're an actual victim and can verify who you are via in-game chat, please contact DJ BigCountry by Eve mail and we will get you on to tell your story.
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Hippocrite. complaint on forum... how Drull.
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"Statistically, more of the high sec people i've run into are more casual..."So you keep statistics on whether the people you encounter pay with cash or plex? Jesus, get a life.
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wierd that they show no losses when our save jita battle report shows 1007 kills with 22L against them lol
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*local jammed*
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HOW COULD YOU NOT BE HAVING FUN
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I guess I'm just missing the core concept of you guys scrubbing pubbies with overwhelming numbers. Great content, though.
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Sigh, you know full well that "odds" have very little to do with the fighting in which Noir. engaged! But neither did the Nullsec guys; why was it brought up at all? Of course we had fun and continue to have fun. Let it suffice to say that I said 150-200 in being Generous, to save me the effort of counting through 1000 odd whore-killmails of negligible importance.
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Please try and tell me with a straight face that you aren't doing the same. Also, when is noir going to do a big event? You guys certainly have the star power to pull something off , along with the popular podcast to promote it. It would definitely be exciting. If you need any help actually putting it into action, hit me up on twitter.
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If you're gonna play alone, at least join something like the Help channel, where there is constant chatter, people asking for help (playing since 2006? probably have SOMETHING to contribute) and lots of questions about the current status and safety of Jita, so you can avoid stupily losing billions of ISK.
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Oh yeah, when Noir executes a hi sec contract, they never use overwhelming numbers, skills or strategy. They just kitchen sink fleet blindly into the enemy.
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lol glad you had fun killing ships destined to die anyway, glad you love playing docking games and camp stations in highsec all day the other 362 days of the year.
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Noir. are lords of KB padding. What else is there to do in the realm of highsec wardecs?
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Zero losses? Lies and bullshit, Mittens. Lies and bullshit.
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is the angry neckbeard included rofl
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lol our first rule is we dont dec anyone smaller than us. hurrr
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makes me kinda miss en24 LOL
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I don't actually think he's a goon to be honest.
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Not particularly fond of my coalitionmates doing this, but that's just me :).
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I'm amazed you could find your dick
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I am one of those people; it's what made me try EVE out. Unfortunately, I am impatient and lazy and the learning curve made me not care (I read this site mainly for the MWO articles, and WoD if it ever makes it out).

The carnage continues in Jita. The Clusterfuck Coalition, lead by Goonswarm, continues their indiscriminate slaughter in the trade capital of New Eden.  Freighters are dying at the rate of approximately two an hour, with ninety-three killed so far.  Jump freighter kills have dried up for the most part, however.  This is not totally surprising, as jump freighter pilots are usually involved in a null sec or low sec group.  There is not really a reason to own a six billion isk ship otherwise. Due to their experience in the more lawless parts of space, they tend to be more aware of events like Burn Jita II. This is not always the case, however, as one jump freighter pilot took to the Eve Online forums to complain.  

This year Thorn Alliance, Noir. Mercenary Group and others have declared war via the ‘war dec’ system to freely engage Goons in high sec.  However, Goonswarm has near total space superiority in Jita.  Usually one or two fleets will be out hunting war targets, leaving the gank fleets, in cheaply fit, high damage, no tank ships to kill anything remotely expensive.  In addition Goonswarm’s CFC allies and TEST are not all under the same war decs.

As of press time (0530 04/21) over three hundred and seventy-five billion ISK has been destroyed. (The following picture comes to us from a source in Goonswarm of a private killboard.)


The Dotlan charts for Jita (taken at 0700 04/21):


TheMittani.com will continue streaming the event.  Tune in throughout the day for streams of the event from the viewpoint of Goonswarm’s Dabigredboat as “The Boatman” continues to guide the wrecks of freighters across the River Styx.

Writer. Twitter: @AlizabethVea