GSF CEO Update: "Honourable Third Parties"

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Leetcheese was right.
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"There are no political consequences to your actions"-And then spends the next 3 paragraphs outlining the political consequences of being a third party.Personally I don't give a flying a fuck what rhetoric we use to justify it, it's about damn time we took the fight to the homes of N3 and PL and all their meatshields.My only problem is the amount of self restraint I am going to have to muster to refrain from shooting at -A-. Oh wait, Makalu and the rest of them are PL now, so not a problem anymore.
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#AGMARMONEYTEAM
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"an alliance once existed between goons and russians. long ago we fought and died together. we come to honor that allegiance." - neo, from the matrix
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>eve goons
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Well, they didn't think there would be any consequences, that's for sure. ;p
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PAP Links. Rotflmao.
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dis gun be gud
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3rd Partying implies shooting both sides so just say it as it is. You are joining the Russians side which is fine we all expected it after Solar said they would become your pets if it meant the end of us. No point in denying that bringing us down since the Russians could not is your ultimate goal.
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Oddly enough, one learns to love them. It's like coffee, you gotta develop a taste for it.
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not really
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That's the entire point, yes. It's quite annoying to hear ~honourable third party~ for an entire bloc war, believe me.
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"until we adopted Siegefleet, gave everyone the finger, and swept."Wasting hundreds of man-hours grinding structures in bomber is "giving everyone the finger"?But hey, sure, if an hour of the life of 250 people is worth less to them than the cost of an insured suicide-dread, it's a good deal.Also, i'm pretty sure the N3 and PL were clearly on TEST's side, despite their half-assed commitement. You could save yourself the posturing and just say that you're allied to the russians, like the N3 was allied to TEST.
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aww someone using haxors because they have drones trained up but you still using drakes...shame just shame.
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it's not even worth saying at this point it's a foregone conclusion now that leetcheese will always be right
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-A- are really cool dudes give them a break. you can always shoot them between ops anyway
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Oh I got the irony, I just wanted to give you a hard time and beat the un-ironic posters to the punchline.
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It seems the shoe is on the other foot, i was wondering how long this would take, seems karma is a bitch.Will be GF's and good times.
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I do not think anyone relevant said we were third-partying in Fountain but if that is the spin you need to use to justify it then go for it. Which again is fine it is not like you attacking was not expected so that you could poach our renters if we lose.
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Just build him a building and allow him to provide his foreshadowing to all.
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Well, that's one way to fix the low numbers we've had in freedomsquad fleets.
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so RUSRUS can't fight alone? they need more nerds? omg you guys terrible at this game.
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wow they need entire EVE to beat N3 0.o
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Actually think they can.But i also think it's much funnier this way. Please don't be mad.
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rusrus cried to papa goon
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oh yea i'm so mad !! -.-
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about time boss :D
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Your four consecutive posts definitely support this statement.
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No just entire hates n3 more than goons now :)
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So mad, so mad
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lol wow it's almost like in every war all the same people are fighting all the same peoplethen they scratch their heads and ask why null is stagnant and no new blood can get in
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you always hate those stronger than you.Lets be honest BL want to be PL ... they want to shit on everyone.But yet they end up being pets without supercaps who are just meatshield for real powers.
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No just goons and russian
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hahahahaha awesome +1
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Suicide dreads give killmails. Stealth bombers only get killmails when the pilot is dumb. That's where the "finger" is coming from.
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Find it funny how the mittani wants to spin how n3 were 3rd partying it during fountain we came to aid test.
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It's only natural that cfc as they have done in the past and continue to do so would use their puppets aka Rus to secure a sandwich between the biggest blob in eve CFC and rag tag Rus who have won a moderate amount of subcap fight with the assistance of CFC and not without.Contradictory as this article is... Honourable third party looooooool yea sure, CFC/Rus/BL the war has gone from a sense of hope for both to carry on their challenge in the war, to well the massive blob wins again, no point of fighting.Once again Mittens proving his obvious nature of kicking some one when they are laying on the floor vulnerable.He establishes that N3 third party them at every opportunity.Damn right, N3 are a group that creates content and challenge.Cfc on its own as is the biggest risk averse blob in the game, they are the only party except another in any given war. Why would anyway except it seems the Rus in their own right mind support the blob with the significant advantage... There's no point of playing a game unless your challenged.I'm sorry but this cries the kind of man Mittens is and once again proves how much they are averse to meaningful content creating, relying on guaranteed win situations.This was obviously going to happen, once again CFC will blot out the sky with swathes of S.hit and render this war mute and pointless for every party involved.This no longer is a war, it's just a grind since there's nothing ANYBODY can do against these odds.So as much spin as Mittens would like to whirl, there's nothing honourable about cfc as a fact. And there's nothing good about this lack of content.This serves 2 purposes, 1 for cfc to pouch renters from N3 who have been good to rent from, as cfc are as untrustworthy as they come.2. To nullify any slight threat cfc has.GG Mittens welcomes you to grind N3 structures. Have a good day serve your purpose as his lackey once more o/\o lawl
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Should've fully committed to fighting goons in Fountain while you had the chance N3. Instead you were shit tier allies and left TEST out to slaughter in the later stages. Hell even back in HBC days, should've listened to Montolio instead having PL talk him down. Now we're basically dead and the CFC has all the Delve, Fountain and Period Basis moons and their newly adopted renter income. You did this to yourselves. They were weak before with no income... that is not so anymore. We wanted to kill the goon, now the goon gonna kill you. RIP. Back to farming LP.
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"The Archon is unquestionably the superior carrier type and there's no reason not go emphasize/spam them: our enemies already are. "Haha tell me about archon superiority when you will need to rep a pos or any other shield structure :P
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n3s- key alliances wanted everything to beat goons and failed several times. guess this shit hits n3 like a boomerang
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Blobbing is only fun when your the one doing it.N3 and chums gang raped SOLAR last year, and every time they fought back and slapped your cocks away from their ass, you simply enroled more bitchs to help pin them down. So riddle me this, why is this any differant when your the bitch being fucked?
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LOLOLOLLOLOLOL butthurt
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That's a lot of words to say "grrr goons"
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TEST also promised to retake their space. I think they got lost on the way back to Fountain.
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Did you seriously just tell someone to play a sandbox game "for how it's designed"? Do you realize how universally stupid that statement is?
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N3 enjoy the good fight CFC can come and enjoy structure grinds all they want. Yes they will take the fun out of fights but N3/PL don't care we are nomadic and will go find new fights. When CFC show up we move again.You haven't noticed that we deploy to different regions often for GF's. Look if CFC enjoy the structure grind to finance Mitten's life style so be it, like miners in high sec they must enjoy that kind of game play.N3/PL will always exist because New Eden is big we can always find content that doesn't involve TIDI. Everyone wins even the brain washed goon pubes are having fun spewing their bee propaganda.
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No, but being from Ohio does.
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Need more 50cent in local.
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Goons - Spergelords led by an unemployed lawyer. Often underestimated because they also include some incredibly bad newbies. Very bad internet postersPL - Spergelords led officially by a strange Finnish dude but in reality by whoever wants to be in charge this month. Incredibly rude and bigoted forum posters.NCdot - Spergelords led by Vince Draken, who likes to emo over little things and pick fights about a lost neutral falcon alt. Very angry forum posters.RUS RUS - Basically anyone who speaks russian. Post lots on russian forums that nobody else can read ( apart from Makalu Zaraya ). Sperggelods in a foireign language, ( but really sperging about the same shit as the rest of us )Basically pick a side - we are all sperge lords who like playing internet spaceships. Its only pixels after all.
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Here I thought I only had russians to keep me warm through the winter. Thank you Mittens cozy up here little boy.
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Indeed. NCdot could suck my left nut and still, the right one would be dry.
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"Several CFC entities were already in Curse and begin acting as 'Honourable Third Parties' in these initial fights"To be fair and for the record, Razor was not an "honorable 3rd party" at the outset of this war. We came alongside SOLAR, -DD- and -A- to punch N3 in the balls. For the foreseeable future, we will continue to work with SW in this capacity.
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erm what about Legion of xxxdeathxxx what will they do in this war?
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Who?
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Perhaps they meant the Testagram :smith:
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While wrong, this got me thinking;After Test lost Fountain, what if N3 had given Test space to lick their wounds in with no strings attached , would either N3 or Test be in as shitty a place as they currently find themselves?This is exactly what happened after Goons lost Delve way-back-when, and TCF gave them a couch to sleep on, now look at the CFC.Maybe investing in your allies is the way to go huh.
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Horde
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Bringing down empires, one disqus comment at a time.
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Good luck CFC...all I can say at this point is bros from N3 and PL have a few tricks up their sleeves. It's really up to you when they pull them out.
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All your renters belong to us.
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yes yes nulli we know you guys are the 1st to run away.now go pack your bags and join FW again.
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2 Girls 1 Cup ..... content.
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Yes we all know NCdot is the most loyal partner in Eve right ? just like PL right ?Sorry buddy but Mitttens is at least loyalo to each of his partners in crime.He doesnt run away and he doesnt break his word.Hence why CFC won Eve and the rest is fighting for the scraps we leave behind.
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third party the third party. giggity.
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Good luck goons! Please once you are done helping in wrecking * thank you Miley Cyrus for ruining that word for me * N3 can we please, pretty please, start looking towards NC. and PL's way? #justsayin
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Nope, M8. Having all asshats staring like stupid cows at their supercaps is showing them the finger. Seems is bit over ya lvl to understand it.
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You sound a bit butthurt. Did I pod you in your ratting clone or something?
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(4) Node crashes resulting in a couple dead supers and a bunch of logged off ones.
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Last time I swevered 3 porposes I got a lifetime ban from Seaworld.
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I am by any comparison new to space politics but it seems astretch to call CFC a “third party”. From the get go their SB have been goingafter N3 during decisive battles (most of my info coming from this website). This may not in name be “allied support” and beCFC dog piling an enemy at a convenient time but in action CFC has thrown theirweight in a direction that benefits the RUSbloc, making CFC an ally in practice.Now that the N3 and RUS have stalemated CFC escalates their involvement. I amoperating under the assumption that the escalation is in response to thestalemate which means throwing more support towards the RUS cause. CFC and RUSmay not have blued each other but a horse by another name is still a horse.
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Im guessing the cfc tears are going to be in full harvest
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Is not the technical term "co-belligerent"?
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I'm normally for war no matter who it is. But I think this has just become unfun for all involved.
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Just like how you deployed to Querious for "GF's" while Solar and BL shot your shit waiting for the GFs to come? Or how about when you returned to the fountain war after you ground the sov back from Solar after the sov drop? After all, 'it did only take a day'.I don't think you even understand the very reason N3 is a coalition
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grunts are not worthless. every rifter counts.
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"Several CFC entities" Well mittens RZR was here even before the hostilities begun, when you were all ratting.. And now youre ranting...
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Damn right, N3 are a group that creates content and challenge.hahahhahaahhaha kick me because its so retarded
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You don't need an excuse in Eve, just enjoy the fighting!I am in awe when it comes to The Mittani and CFC. He has been ruling Eve the last couple of years, like BoB of years ago, based on 2 simple principles: 1) Bulding the biggest coalition to take down the enemy2) Propaganda; internal and exteral to rally the troops. 'We need this war because of xxxx and our opponent is Evil and deserves it'This has been true for:1) CFC+Solar vs NC.+BL in Tribute2) CFC+HBC vs SoCo in Delve3) CFC+BL vs HBC+N3+PL in Fountain (supported by Solar in Drones)Next one up4) RUS/new Soco+CFC vs N3+PL
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Lol. Chest beating nerds on a goon news site chest beating. Free entertainment. My virtual pixel coalition will beat up your virtual pixel coalition! UH HUH! WE WILL!
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i miss you jewiapek Q_Q
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"We're neutral to the RUS and red to the N3 bloc in terms of standings. We have no standings with the RUS because we're Honourable Third Parties. Make sure to remind everyone of this constantly."If we weren't targeting N3 exclusively there wouldn't be any need to remind them constantly that we are in fact third parties (and not just any 3rd parties, we are Honourable Third Parties!).
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when NC. deployed for harrasing Test, Goons stick his nose and got gready... the result is Nc. flipped and tried to prevent him to dominte....I wonder whether see Russians understand CFC motives and take the right decision.. other wise it will be either them or cfc in null.... and guess who will end the game?
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It's really funny you post this article and talk about being the "honourable third party" and how you will show up to help squash N3/NCdot however the last two fights Goons have not been in sight and the Russians have run away. Where were you again? Put your money where your mouth is. If you say your going to show up, commit and show up or GFO.Honestly all your doing is pitting your enemies against themselves, aligning with the side you know would lose in a fair fight, while patiently waiting for one or both sides to be weak before you decide to headshot both sides and own Null. Problem is Rus & Co / N3&NCdot are too short sited to see this ploy.It would be more interesting for all of them to join forces (temporarily) and go after you. That would be some good game content.
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give em hell mittens!,I as part of rus block have seen N3 blob with supers/slowcats at every timer once the subcat war started going south for them,they are the most hypocritical "elite" pvpers bar none..
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There's just a few regions in the way before that happens really...Never stop believing though!
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I think you could have fit 'sperge' and 'spergelords' in there at least three more times.
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nomadic=PL/NCdot bail once the shit gets real!!!,lets face it , it was BL that dragged out the tribute war , once BL pulled out it fell in quick time , so less of the spartan rhetoric ,cause blobbing solar and RUS with supers cos you get owned with subcaps ,at least we in nulli know when we welp proteus fleets that we aint pro
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so theres no real major cultural differences from alliance to alliance then? i guess because we all fall under the over-arching "internet space ship nerd" category. i was in PL way back when they let indy scrubs in. I never noticed them being particularly bigoted over any other group. But, hey, ill take a villain where i can get one...
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Would you join forces with someone that kicked you out of your space? I personally would want to get back at them, and I will. I don't blame SOLAR and the rest for wanting revenge. I was in ROGUE and all NC. did was tried to attack us with their capitals and kicked me out the space I lived in. Imagine worker honey bees against wasps, you get the idea *I hope*. I don't feel sorry for the shitstorm NC. is about to experience. They did it to themselves for many people wanting to get back at them.
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"claim a mighty empire from manipulation and greater numbers"and this is bad...how? because you cant do it yourself? its a game about war, and unfettered markets. manipulation is key.
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That original quote is Lord of The Rings. Substitute Goons and Russians with Elves and Men
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Omg, quick... Blob more... Does really no one realize, that N3 has small numbers cause people are just bored of this game? Many people have stoped to play on both sides. Numbers only mean that there is a shittons of alts out there.Why are people still playing this when they allways complain about everything?
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Grabs popcorn and pours drama butter on it
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You didnt understand anything right?Learn to read. Deployment and related shit like convoys start today, so we dont give a fuck about fights happened 2 days ago.Also Honorable Third Paaarteeeey. We come to fight if we choose to do so. And your typical "why cant all be friends and fight together versus evil goons" is so pathetic and naive that you should kill yourself in RL.
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Maybe N3 people are just bored of their shit allies like PL and NC. who treat them like subhumans and flying drone shit for over half a year now is no fun? Can we please have your stuff? Contract it to a fellow GoonLogistics.
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Why are you still complaining/posting on InternetNerdPapers if you dont care about this game so much?Why just why are people like you pointing with their naive finger towards others and dont realize they are sitting in the same glasshouse?Why are you so dumb?
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was@KittyKat
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Do we get a cool "You are victorious" Notification if we truly reign over all of New Eden and servers go offline afterwards?
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I think there is a typo and you wanted tow say N3PL instead. 3 seconds after I entered staging system local, PL was already whining about being blobbed.
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:thejoke:
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Razor/FA came to help, and got dumpstered
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Also I should note that replies such as this give lie to your little game of changing the attributions of your posts after the fact to make it seem like you represent some sort of consensus.Choke on a cactus and die, hmm.
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Its official... N3 vs EVE ... will be our honour to do that... i hope russians understand the aftermath of such step though
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Razor sucking up to SW for their inevitable leaving the CFC
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Was it fun when you blobed Solar out of their sov? Let's see how you like some RusGoon Cockteil Molotov in the face.
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Hell yes, this I like to see, as someone who's had to deal with N3's shit in the past, god speed gentlemen o7.
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A tactical retreat should not be mistaken for cowardice. If N3 has the common sens to retreat with all their caps and isk in tact, it would be N3 that ruin the goons game. All the goons would have left is structure grinds. It would only be a matter or time till the Russians and the goons would start to fight each other, leaving N3 to finish off the weakened victor.
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As a fellow ex rogue, I agree.
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If N3 stops defending their sov, they lose it all; the Russians are going to push back into their homeland in the drones through hell or high water. And since the only thing holding N3 together as a cohesive entity is the revenue from their shared renter empire, the end of N3 sov is effectively the end of N3.There's not really a choice here for N3.
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Goons never not late to the party!
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Actually, funny enough, in the pre-war speech for Fountain, he did this whole hipster thing talking about how people demonize "The other" to justify their reasons for war, and said we were going to war against TEST because we need their moons with the moongoo nerf.So yeah. We're pretty much an unruly horde as it is. We don't need too much justification from Dear Leader other than 1.) There's people to shoot, 2.) The isk shall continue to flow.
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Fake poster or not he is correct in what was turning out to be a fairly decent war between skilled opponents has now been thrown away. I can't imagine the Russians or BL wanting this. They will not be able to hold their heads high by having Mittens win the war for them. BTW thank you to the Russians and BL you guys are great opponents will I miss the GF's.
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words....
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a year ago, it was like "we have to end -a- right nowbefore they fall into fountain"
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I found a video of it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
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We want your rent income, and restore some order, so Solar can return to its rightful home imo. Thanks for padding my killboard by the way.
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It only takes one mistake (like whelping their Superfleet) to wipe out years of saving.With the mysterious CFC capital fleet in play, that risk has only became bigger for N3/PL side. But without deploying their capital fleet, N3/PL will surely lose ground. They're stuck in a dilemma.
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This mittani guy seems pissed? Can we have him show us on the doll where the bad man named Vince touched him?Nice spin Goons, if AAA and the rest of the Stainwagon guys knew what is going to happen to them after N3 and PL are crushed.
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Galdalf the Bay - Director of Movies.
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you assume N3 and PL will be crushed...
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are u stupid? i think you are. everyone in eve thinks you are, and your parents think you are.test and tribe made up about 10,000 members.. of that they could not even make up 10% activity. and they were fighting a coalition that has the ability to field 2000-4000 members. so we were evening the odds abit,and we never claimed 3rd party.. we joined them and FCed them so pretty sure that ment we were on their side... so please remove your head from your ass and stop believing everything mittani feeds you.the only thing CFC have going for them is numbers, if it was an Equal number fight then CFC would be sent packing. so GG Faggot
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ofc he assumes they will be crushed, the CFC hasnt lost a single war they have been involved with.
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I like how these guys in the comments are already selling the "its ok if we lose because we got blobbed" narrative and we haven't even moved the coalition yet. So for those of you keeping track. First we deployed squads, and now we are in the process of deploying the alliance. You went from "I wish a n***a would" to "man fuck these n****s for comin' round" real fast.
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the dude is in FA you dumb fuck.
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When the new blood sides with vince draken, then that new blood gets spilled.
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Goons and Honourable... I laughed.
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So why did you remove my post Mittani? Don't like when someone who disagrees with you makes a valid point and gets more upvotes than you on your own site?
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"but a horse by another name is still a horse"Not when it's an elephant.Seriously though, when the update mentions "RUS might shoot you, don't expect blue standings", that's also saying (without actually saying it for diplomatic reasons) "you can shoot RUS targets of opportunity too". That's quite different to an ally in either theory or practice.
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numbers and manipulation are fine, it's Eve. But what's wrong about goons is that every update from Mittani looks for me like a hate mail. Hate, revenge, no good fights and so on...
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I don't think you understood the message. we are going to punch you in the ovaries until you quit eve. As an honorable third party.
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too many :words:
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It is the gentlemanly thing for me to say this: "Ladies first"
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Just search for "Grath rage revenant" and "Shadoo Armor HACS" that is the PL of today.
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Finally... i was waiting for this a long time. Start packing your shit PL. I hear Test is looking for pilots. Maybe good idea to give them a call. I am going to enjoy this so much. Cant wait. Maybe consider changing your name also to "Pathetic Legion" O and dont bother commenting on this because the only comment I will give back is when I start looting your wrecks and sharing some killmails. LOL
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Yes, the CFC sort of committed two alliances into the conflict, after half of the drone regions coalition had already been beaten. You don't always have to play the victim or hero against the odds. ncdot and co had superior everything and won. It was never even a contest.
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No good fights? Perhaps the lady bawls and squeals too much. The goons have killed more, by far, than any other group. Period.Didn't intend to interrupt your crying. Just wanted to correct that one thing.
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Now I am confused. You calling an elephant a horse? Anatomically the thing doesn't change because of the label… regardless…Your right, it doesn't say don’t attack RUS but it also doesn't say "you can shoot RUS targets of opportunity too". If the narrative of the article wasn't FUCK N3 then we could just assume that they will shoot RUS. What the article does say is for example “help Lyris et al torch N3”. I would be inclined to side with you if the targeting was region specific opposed to alliance specific. Also if CFC and RUS didn't share a common goal and enemy. Also if the escalation didn't coincide with the stalemate.Alliance between CFC and RUS probably isn't the right word, I will agree on that. A nerd mentioned “Co-belligerence” which is probably a more accurate term.
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"Blah, Blah, whimper, sniff.."Drama drama is not going to help you.That red flashing light in the corner of your vision is your Alliance Dissipation Alarm. It just went into overdrive.
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Yes, yes, yes... But not today.
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You do realize Russians + BL is only like 14k peeps and N3 + PL is 27k so.....
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That's exactly it - anatomically this thing is not a horse, err, I mean an alliance.
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It's called giving motivation and focus to the hordes, inciting them to violence against the 'other'...... and in this case, it's called 'hey, remember those guys who said they existed to fuck us? Let's go fuck 'em.'
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CFC an honourable third party don't make me laugh this is the CFC keeping everyone fighting against each other so the penny doesn't drop that the CFC are the biggest threat to eve dying of blue boredom
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9/10 for butthurt there Mittani... Nevermind the fact that N3/PL sided with TEST because TEST where a collapsing alliance with no friends to defend them, and the CFC are a 20/30 thousand man coalition, would you have rather we'd sided with the CFC, and just roflstomped TEST and had no fun fights where numbers where close to even, as even as eve ever gets.
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pretty sure the 1500 domis on top of the 800 angry russians will make a pretty big impact in this war. PL is prob already kissing mittans boots to try to keep there renter space.
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You're including N3 renters in your N3 + PL count?What a retard.
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MIttani told a group of people at Fanfest to look for a guy in game to explode his ships to "make him kill himself". And MIttani is STILL ALLOWED IN GAME. Mittens you should have been perma banned from eve and goonswarm should have been disbanded. You are an evil fuck and I hope that one day you will get run over by a truck you piece of shit.
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The perfect TESTicle is the one who never engaged in the war and then blamed their allies for not enough help.
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I am not going to verify myself because of reasons but I am in test leadership.We were not going to ask/recieve a couch because we want to do it ourselves not because people feel sorry for us.
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I'm fairly sure the poster is Russian. Look at how he uses the word "using". Google translate is a bad thing.
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Perhaps there is a misunderstanding. It certainly isn't stagnant but what I think the original post is focusing on is the 'new blood' not getting in (whatever defines 'new') and that it's the 'same' people fighting. My comment is referring to how null sec has become more 'mature' and hence the competition has changed from many-many small entities to a set of particularly strong entities. So it's not stagnant, perhaps just not as volatile as it once was? Reader can decide ;)
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Um. It's a SoV war that started to stagnate with mass slowcat drops which are boring as hell. Anything to make it go faster and farm more tears is appreciated. The faster we help solar get their space back, the faster I can go back to roaming in muninn's and doing horrible puns in fleet that don't consist of 10% tidi slap fights.
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Oh we know.. it will hurt if/when Goons turn on us and achive total dominance of Null Secbut untill then we get to burn N3
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HHAHAHAHAHA goons. Don't whine to me ever about how you can dicks because that's how the game is. Do you remember the war changes in rubicon? How someone initiated a forever war against goons? There was a article about it on this very site. Instead of being men and taking it in the ass like you tell everyone else to when you hurt they're playing experience, you goons went running to CCP with you collective vaginitals deep throating CCP'S ripe bananas the entire unicorn ride back to Iceland.
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I'm not so sure. Is NC. even capable of taking down a ratting ship without an assist?
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We-we didn't listen!
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You seem to think you are on the right way, but you don't. First of all, everyone, especially Mittens, knows that the internal goon postings will land on the eve news sites and second, if these news aren't written without the propaganda and instead will consist of the truth a lot of you guys won't join the current war, which he needs to show the eve playerbase that N3 are the real evil. Without all that propaganda stuff your war won't be that efficient and you guys couldn't hold the numbers in the last fountain war as you got defeated in the time you couldn't take a system for weeks.The truth is that you guys don't want to know or even listen to the truth. You like to get used for Mittens plans.
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This is fucking awesome!! last time CFC cried about EVE vs. them and now its N3 crying about the same thing. The comments to come during this war will be so juicy!!
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It's happening. Just as I predicted. Step 1: consolidate recent gains. Step 2: Fragment opposition. Step 3: Announce e-honoureable 3rd party pvp for gudfites as a tactical scouting mission and strategic cover for moving large quantities of war materials into position. Step 4: Invade.Don't be fooled. Goons are coming.
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Yes, but other Alliances/Coalitions are allowed to submit their own internal CEO Updates to TMC as well, and they'll get posted. There's been many of these posted, even for our enemies. If they're not on the website right now, that's because they've chosen not to submit them. So there's equal opportunity propaganda posting available here as long as they're revenant (heh) to the current war at hand. And quite frankly, these updates -are- news, they're just not "fair and balanced".Secondly, yes, Goons like to get used for Mittens plans. Keep the ISK flowing, the fights coming, and add a few dashes of tears and we're golden.
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I dont know where all these tech moons you mention came from because according to eve maps dotlan, there is only 1 tech moon in all of Fountain, Querious, Period Basis and Delve combined...
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GGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY
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A fairly good question. Marlona did an excellent article on this: http://themittani.com/features...Dotlan relies on trust so its open to false information. The CFC itself maintains a database of tens of thousands of moons that resulted from leveraging their large numbers to scan all the moons for bounties.
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He didn't say "tech moons", he said "moons".
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"I want nothing less than absolute cruelty and sadism on display. No honor, no fun for the foe, nothing but having their faces smashed in shit over and over and over again until they cry, beg, and plead for forgiveness for what they tried to do to us"- Your an idiot.
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Oh certainly. I probably should have replied to OP. There's no link for "say this to this guy about that other guy" so the nuance is lost.
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"I want nothing less than absolute cruelty and sadism on display. No honor, no fun for the foe, nothing but having their faces smashed in shit over and over and over again until they cry, beg, and plead for forgiveness for what they tried to do to us."- Your a Dork.
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A few pointers for people to think about - i'm pretty sure a third party isn't meant to be bias in war... - Where do you think N3 will go after there space is lost? Do you think they will waste there time down south, or head back up north where they can take 100's of titans and supers, and have fun hot dropping everything that moves? (my carrier will not be safe!!)- When this war is over it will be 100%, the biggest blue donut eve has ever seen- I know you asked us to deploy south, but N3 provide content in this game, It's like poking a bees nest. Why would we destroy there home so they can freely kill everything without consequence?! This makes no sense to me..
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xD haha true, they should implement an @ thingy-me-bob
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Hahahaha NC. will be the next TEST. --> this way to FW.
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If that's how goons talk about/to themselves on their forums.....well suffice it to say it explains alot about the goon's "better than you" mentality
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You are trying to defend you're performance, or at least abdicate all responsibility for your failure. We tried helping you, but you were more interested in ratting or doing anything else except fighting for your space, and now rather than accept the inevitable outcome for your lack of commitment you're trying to shift the blame onto the people who tried to help you. With that attitude I can't say I'm sorry that you're gone, you relied on Goons to get sov in the first place, and then on us to defend it for you. Maybe next time you try to hold sov, you'll lose the entitled attitude and actually work to get and keep what you've got instead of expecting everyone else to carry the load for you.

(Editor's Note: Alliance Updates are intended for an internal audience; this was originally posted on Goonfleet.com. Do we really need these disclaimers?)

There is no position as entertaining - or as privileged - as that of a 'third party' in a bloc war. We know this, because we spent the last few months watching NCdot and friends furiously masturbating over what they got to do to us during the Fountain War.
 
Consider the third party: none of your space is at risk. There are no political consequences to your actions. If your side wins, you share the glory; if your side loses, it was the other guy's fault because you were 'just a third party'. Your mere presence can make a tremendous strategic impact; while PL 'just sent subcaps' into Fountain from their staging system in Syndicate, the presence of their lurking capital fleet severely restricted our operations - until we adopted Siegefleet, gave everyone the finger, and swept.

At every opportunity, NCdot and their allies in N3 have taken the chance to "third party" against GSF and the CFC. Their hangers-on in N3 memorably declared that their entire coalition exists to try to destroy the CFC. If you could weaponize hypocrisy, these people would control the galaxy. They whine about blobbing and 'gudfites' while deploying 200+ sentry assist carriers on a station in complete safety. They seem to think we should give a flying fuck about their gameplay experience when they repeatedly tried to come at us and ruin ours. They unironically complain that they are 'fighting for a blue-free Eve' when having assembled a massive shitpile of pubbies which is (gasp) just like every other coalition in game. And they've never been punished for it. 
 
Yet now, nursing their wounded pride from their loss in Fountain, NCdot and N3 find themselves fighting a defensive war against a resurgent Russian-led bloc in the galactic East, a war of extinction in which their homes and very identity are at stake. Well, well, well - ain't that a shame.
 
Now it's our turn.

Ostfront: The Story So Far

On Halloween, Solar Fleet and Black Legion made a surprising move: they allied formally with Darkness of Despair, -A-, and Stainwagon, RUS entities which they had previously been unfriendly towards. Putting aside their differences against a mutual enemy, Solar deployed to KDF in Catch, just outside of Immensea. N3/NCdot unsurprisingly saw this staging move as a precursor to war, and so they fired the first shots, attempting a dual-headshot move of both KDF and GE-8, the -A- capital, which promptly failed as all headshot attempts inevitably do. Full scale bloc war broke out. Several CFC entities were already in Curse and begin acting as 'Honourable Third Parties' in these initial fights, with European Goonion and Freedomsquad from GSF basing out of G-0 without any actual CFC contract support.
 
Right now the war is in a stalemate, with the RUS having picked up one station from N3. RUS tends to win subcap fights, and N3 has taken to dropping slowcats on everything just as they did in Fountain. While there are daily fights, progress on either side had begun to stagnate around the Immensea/Catch front line.

Turnabout is Fair Play

We are now going to do to NCdot and their friends in N3 exactly what they did to us in Fountain. We are going to be 'honourable third parties' in this war and make their lives and their gameplay hell. At every turn where they complain on the forums about how we are ruining their 'good fights' and 'blobbing', we will remind them with a sweet, false smile that this is exactly what they tried and failed to do to us. This is the first opportunity the CFC has ever had to be an 'honourable third party', and I want nothing less than absolute cruelty and sadism on display. No honor, no fun for the foe, nothing but having their faces smashed in shit over and over and over again until they cry, beg, and plead for forgiveness for what they tried to do to us. We're just here for fun and good fights, gentlemen; why are you upset? 

Standing Orders: What Do

  • Get to G-0 in Curse, our eastern FOB. There's a Waffe office there. We're staging in the other station, without a clone bay, because we're idiots and the one with a medbay is a kickout. Pod to the medbay office, move to the other station.
  • Doctrines: Siegefleet, Dominixes, Prophecies, Harpies. We're playing with drone assist doctrines. Dominixes will be on contract and the market will be seeded, but feel free to seed it even more. 
  • Get your Grindface On: We're turning Lyris and friends loose. Skrimish commanders are invited to step up and help Lyris et al torch N3. When we are not fighting, we will be grinding, because FUCK these people. 
  • We're neutral to the RUS and red to the N3 bloc in terms of standings. We have no standings with the RUS because we're Honourable Third Parties. Make sure to remind everyone of this constantly. Outside of major engagements the RUS might shoot you, don't expect blue standings.
  • Subcap convoys begin Saturday. Cap convoys will be announced through the usual channels.
  • Not all the CFC will be joining us in Curse. Some will be going on ~special missions~ to ~special places~.

Archonswarm

With the changes to racial skill requirements to carriers, we're shifting literally all of our carriers to Archons. If you lose a carrier of any non-Archon flavor, you will be handed an Archon in reimbursement. You don't need to ditch your non-Archon carrier right now (though it'd be peachy if you did!) but when you lose it, you'll have an Archon. The Archon is unquestionably the superior carrier type and there's no reason not go emphasize/spam them: our enemies already are.  

Blackops

Blackops is a strategic asset and counts for participation in terms of pap links. That is a very dry way of saying 'Blackops has killed 30+ ratting carriers in EMP space and forced them to turn off their beacons and generally made a horrible mess of things, and it's a lot of fun.' While Blackops currently is fielding 20-40 Blackops BS in US Prime, the org desperately needs Euro TZ pilots. 

Keep Training For Dreads

In an EVE infected with drone assist, there is only one reliable counter to massed sentry carriers. "550+ battleships" works in theory, but in practice the node dies and the carriers get away, a la Z9PP. We need Dreadnaughts: lots of Dreadnaughts. We included 'train for dreads, jerk' in the previous CEO Update, and it remains the case.

Goonswarm Federation CEO, Space Tyrant. Likes yoga, Alaskan Malamutes, bacon, and delegation.