GSF CEO Update: Christmas Comes Early

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"Our warmongering has also artificially inflated the price of Technetium despite it being nerfed, which means that while our income isn't as insane as pre-nerf, we're still collectively sitting pretty."Tech prices:9/4: 141,96010/4: 100,49511/4: 86,64912/4: 78,000There's been absolutely no inflation in tech prices. Except for a two-day spike two months ago, tech has been on a steady, downward decline for the past several months.
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Indeed, and our finance team predicted that, but for war, it would have declined much, much faster. You're welcome to disagree with the GSF finance team, but you're wrong~
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Speaking as one of the finance team members Mittani mentioned, you're wrong. "Artificially inflated" in this sense really should mean "kept from dropping as drastically as it should have".
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I can live with being merely filthy rich instead of ridiculously, immorally rich.
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Excellent article and I don't know what you've been doing behind the scenes but your AU tz appears to have dusted off the stench of Kings Cross and VB and is beginning to sober up.My only advice would be to make certain member's poetry outlawed.http://www.eveskunk.com/?messageID=31...
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The anonymous name you chose is very apropos
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You were not wearing one of those poster boards in a past life that said "the end of the world was nigh" in a past life were you?
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Wont be any use for those rokhs, and love the inflation of tech lie faggot
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The very definition of the word 'inflation' can only ever imply that an increase in the nominal price has taken place.Given there's a continued decrease in the price level, tied with the fact that over time a given amount of ISK in EVE buys an ever-decreasing basket of goods, the assertion that you've 'inflated' the price is automatically ruled out.The price has continued to decline + that ISK purchases less ≠ inflation.The term you may be looking for is 'staunching a more dramatic drop in price' or maybe a more layman friendly, Joe Sixpack 'hasn't dropped as fast as we thought it might'.Maybe you ought to get someone who's taken Econ/Finance 1001 and can look up definitions in an online dictionary.http://lmgtfy.com/?q=inflation
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Perhaps you and your team ought to crack open the dictionary and look up what the word 'inflation' means."Not falling as fast as we thought it would" does not mean, and can never be construed as having "artificially inflated" the price.Try this: "We've successfully staunched what we projected, after CCP's nerf, would have been a more marked decline in the price of technetium."Now that sounds perfectly intelligent, reasonable, and possibly... true.
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You're mincing fine words and making an ass of yourself in the process.Technetium price is far higher than it would be in an environment lacking the consumption pressure of war. It's that simple; enormous demand for technomagically-explodey interwebships is preventing the cobalt-platinum alchemical price ceiling from lassoing Tech down.Mind that the Technetum nerf took place during intense war; we are only now entering an extended period of reduced violence where starbase fuel, freight, and other non-military factors will be playing into the balance between alchemy and raw technetium.Whatever the cause, Technetium has been / is above accepted projections. The price is thus inflated, and you make Webster sad.
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Especially if you're plagued with terminal autism.
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This isn't EveNews 24, you actually have to troll with style and wit. Your ragey lack of punctuation means you are more like the angry German kid than Inquistor Kitchner.
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Inflation is not "the price is lower than it was, but higher than we think it might otherwise have been." Tech was hovering around 140k per unit when the campaign in Tribute began, and is at 78k today, which means the price has been nearly halved, not inflated.Inflation is solely dependent on actual, historical prices. Not what you thought, projected, guessed, or estimated they could have otherwise been. It's calculated based on reality, an actual nominal increase, not the margin between your lowball estimates based on an imaginary alternate reality and its current price.And besides, the sums of the prices listed below have been moving in lockstep with a 30-60k spread for several months now. What tech moon owners do or don't do isn't as influential as it was when tech peaked at around 200k per unit.20 platinum technite = 900k ISK100 cobalt + 10 platinum + 30 fuel blocks = 855k ISKNot a profitable reaction, but well-suited for local, internal production and consumption without the hassles of import.
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"Not a profitable reaction, but well-suited for local, internal production and consumption without the hassles of import.""without the hassles of import"You know literally nothing of industry.
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Look at this fucking sperglord.
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VYST IS FAT
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Proud to be disqualified from the destruction quota.
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Did you know there are these things called dual resource moons, and they can produce cobalt and platinum? Oh even if you have just cobalt moons, you can easily drop the cost of cobalt from your "cost". Suddenly you are looking at barely 450k isk as the "correct" answer to your problem, which is the raw cost of materials for your reaction since the moon *does* provide the cobalt for free (or rather, zero increase in marginal costs). Do you seriously expect people to take you seriously when you state that a 100% profit is not an inflated one?
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So much sperging over what amounts to semantics. Most people at least have the decency to get furious about something more fun to slap fight over.
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toodles~
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To be fair, he has a point. Technically.
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And I quote:"Our warmongering has also artificially inflated the price of Technetium despite it being nerfed." -The MittaniPrice when warmongering began: 140k per unitPrice today: 78k per unit (record low not seen since January 2011)
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great article - also no love for -FA- and Razor :( ?! but still a very good read
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Is there an echo in here? in here?
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Its the Goonswarm PR machine trying to cover up the fact there losing the advantage of the income source bit by bit. It would be kind of ironic if what kills Goonswarms power is failing to adjust to the techmetium nerf and basically running out of isk to fight properly.But I'm sure even if there internal finance division is a joke (what I strongly suspect it isn't) it be a while before there reserves melt away enough to cause real damage to there combat ability.
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their*
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Autism is not infectious and never terminal, pedantry like laziness is a disposition.
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More of a Goon Alliance vs. CFC update.
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For christs sake just copy and paste the disclaimer has it ever occured to you cretinous bastards that you have new readers from time to time? Its not hard work and while I like themittani just stop whinging about journalistic rigor and it with be at least 10% better.
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Say you have a tire that is leaking air. You get a pump and start inflating the tire to fight the air loss. If the loss is in excess of your inflation effort, the pressure still drops in the tire, but more slowly. I can see how the limited mind could misunderstand this concept because they think in black and white terms and are incapable of appreciating how context can shape the meaning of words.This issue is about supply and demand. Patch changes increased the supply side, which would push toward lower prices. The article states that the wars have resulted in higher demand and that has the effect of pushing toward higher prices, but not enough to exceed the effect of the new supply.
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"The article states that the wars have resulted in higher demand and that has the effect of pushing toward higher prices, but not enough to exceed the effect of the new supply."I'm pretty sure in this internal propaganda address that's been shared for public release, none of those things were mentioned - all that was said was that the price of tech has been "artificially inflated" - despite its current price being at a two-year record low.
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The alternatives were sadly enough worse.
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You're gay no one cares.
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Thank fuck fellow members of Arsehole Squad don't let simple disagreements over a pre-chosen name muddle enough jimmies to actually stop them from having fun. It's a game, we kill things, get drunk, kill more things, keep drinking, and- well you get it by now surely.
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Right'o Chieftain.
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I'm going to type slowly so you can understand this, ok? It's a matter of context and the simple fact that you are arguing this shows your inept education and lack of reasoning. His use of the term "artificially inflated" is in reference to the fact that tech did not drop as low as it should have because of the higher demand. Projected values or not, the increased supply dictated that the prices would drop. You're point of view is based on the fact that you don't understand market values to begin with. As several people have pointed out...the war kept the prices from dropping down to were they should be. Take a class in economics when you're done with remedial math and you'll get the gist of the statement. Now do you understand a little better, or do I need to use smaller words?
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"tech did not drop as low as it should have" cannot mean or be understood in any context as having been "artificially inflated". It is quite simply a outright contradiction.For the price to be "artificially inflated" there has to be an absolute nominal increase from an actual previous price, not an "increase" from an imaginary, "projected", "should have been" price.Tech is at a two-year record low. Deal with it.

(Editor's Note: As usual, Alliance Updates are written for an internal audience, reproduced here. If by this point you still need a 'this, like every Alliance Update in history, is propaganda' disclaimer, I don't even know what to tell you.)

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Credit: Kismeteer

We won! What, exactly?

Four months of grinding war. The gains to a line member were not obvious, save for the slow devastation of Tribute and Vale. What did we get? Before the invasion, Goonswarm had about ~60 tech moons. Afterwards, we're up to ~93, and that's after generously giving away gobs of the things to our deserving allies. Collectively, the CFC now controls ~305 tech moons. Our warmongering has also artificially inflated the price of Technetium despite it being nerfed, which means that while our income isn't as insane as pre-nerf, we're still collectively sitting pretty.

Perhaps more importantly, we have de-ghettoized our coalition. It is important to treat your allies well, and Goonswarm has always throughout its history relied on the 'best friend, worst enemy' policy in diplomacy. Taking Vale, which is a vast sweep of space compared to the relatively small Tribute, has allowed the coalition to take allies who were jammed into cramped, somewhat ugly quarters and give them the lebensraum they deserve.

Similarly, the campaign has given us four months of testing and adversity. We have learned who among us are reliable in a pinch, who quails at the prospect of a long war, who is a dodgy dramawhore, and militarily we've worked to develop Arsehole Squad to cover our AU TZ and reformed our laughably outdated doctrines.

So: a shitload of space, a shitload of moons, better allies, better fleets, and cash.

Christmas in Squadland

A four-month sov war is one of the longest grinds in post-Dominion history. Yet peace sucks; Eve is a hideously boring game if someone isn't getting their face smashed in. To celebrate our victory and to make peacetime less boring, I'm going to give 10b isk to each 'combat squad' (Topgoon, Arsehole, EG, SV, Blops - Miniluv doesn't need the isk) and turn them loose. Your squad may spend the isk however you want in the name of murder. If your squads do particularly well/show me something even more hilarious with the initial 10b isk, I may even grant more to those who have succeeded.

Whichever squad has the most isk damage-done by December 31st will be given another 10b isk as a prize.

If social squads Sigma, Rho and Theta want to actually go to war, they're also welcome to approach me about war-isk. However, if they do not produce skulls for us I'll be cross.

If you're not in a squad, you should probably join one! Peacetime reimbursement covers almost all of the galaxy now (check the wiki), so go kill fools and get paid.

Mordus Angels down, Legion of Death, Circle of Two Up

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After Vale was conquered, we announced that Mordus Angels was a useless shitpile, didn't deserve blue standings, and reset them without notice. This is because they never bothered showing up in fleets, and the 'well, they're annoying to have red because they camp our jump bridges' excuse began to look completely retarded. If they actually do camp our bridges, good: they will kill the stupid who do not scout, and the stupid will learn, quit eve, or provide comedy for the rest of us. More likely they will crumple and wither in NPC Pure Blind and become the playthings of Suas and Vee to bat around like barely-twitching field mice my cats seem to love using as improvised hockey pucks.

At the same time, we showered Circle of Two and Legion of Death with love, space, and tech moons. This is because Co2 and XIX actually were useful to the coalition, showed up in fleets with the right ships at the right time (or entire fleets of their own) and didn't cause dumb drama.

The contrast is clear. This coalition is a retributive meritocracy; the only thing that matters for an alliance in the Clusterfuck is showing up in strategic ops with doctrine-appropriate ships. Serve on the line and be rewarded, fail to do so and be flayed - pour encourager les autres.

Membercorp Judgements

It's been a long time since we had enough data to judge our own membercorps, as well. The last few wars were jokes, two-week affairs where our enemies broke before any of us were tested. As you know, membercorps do not pay taxes and yet receive total reimbursement from the fat, cheeto-stained largess of Goonwaffe; membercorps who serve on the front line (fleet participation) are rewarded with 'stakeholder status', namely they get to have a CEO in Illum and have a 'voice' along with the other nerds. Membercorps who fuck up lose their stakeholders; those that continue to fuck up get purged.

I had hoped to purge a membercorp or two at the end of this war, but mostly everyone did well. NED, ETNY, TAPER (Pulsar Inc) and RGSU are standouts, with XVMX (Jack Haydn's crew) doing particularly well in the November phase of the war when many membercorps gave up on the fight and went home.

BAT faceplanted, but that is mostly due to their CEO moving away to work at Riot, handing off the reins to Midge, and spearheading Miniluv and GIA work. We give them a pass on account of this. Widot and Waffe are godawful, the standards by which everyone else is judged, because they are alliance-sized corps and not expected to display competence.

Corps that seem to be 'in trouble': Amok, Merchi, MAS-B, and Sundering. In Amok's case this might be because of hundreds of 'mysterious alts' clogging their ranks, because in absolute rather than relative participation they're towards the top. MAS-B seems to be in the midst of a collapse, Merchi is on a downswing, and Sundering is the best of this lot - but could use some improvement. In general, as an organization, if you're approaching Waffe or Widot participation levels, you're in shit.

Kismeteer and Hfo Df are encouraged to go hog wild posting stats and such for everyone to analyze and/or argue about. If you spend too much time arguing about how stats shouldn't apply to your corp instead of fixing your corps shit, I might arbitrarily purge you!

We're working on a new api-based stats system to try to figure out exactly how many soldiers we have in each corp, how many are alts, and how many are wastes of space. So until that is rolled out we're not going to do any purging, we're just announcing who needs to fix their shit - it's possibly that every Amokdotte person who shows up in fleet has 15 alts and that they shouldn't be in trouble, but we won't know that until the apis are run.

Rokhs and Retribution

Many of you have been wondering what we're doing, training-wise, for Retribution. The confusion seems fever-pitched because nothing in particular seems to be happening! That's because there's no major change.

Train for Rokhs. We are increasingly replacing Maels with Rokhs, or using a balance of both in one Alphafleet. Voila. We're not actually removing Maels as they're great ships, we just want people to train Large Hybrid 5 and Caldari BS.

Tengufleet is likely to be shelved, we'll be continuing to use Drakefleets because despite nerfs there's nothing better (yet), and we'll continue using Tornados/Nagas as t3 snipers.

We might have some hilarious 't1 doctrines' with the new T1 cruiser changes/logi frigs, but those won't be official doctrines until Vee/Laz/Boat come down from FC Mountain with new carved tablets for us to ooh and ahh over.

Goonswarm Federation CEO, Space Tyrant. Likes yoga, Alaskan Malamutes, bacon, and delegation.