G-B22J: Provibloc's Revenge

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It was indeed a good fight and I salute the pilots of Nulli Secunda for staying on field and giving the good fight. Good fun all-around as far as I am concerned. I spoke with my members after the fight and they too all had good fun. I timed the length of the battle at approximately 43 minutes. That's a decent way to spend time in a game. Core was calling targets calmly like the Pro he is, so was Ladel and of course "Bomba Bomba Bomba" Sbrodor was very Pro with his bomber fleet.I have to congratulate our Logi team, well-focused and kept me alive more than five times. Salutes and celebratory beers to all !
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"CFC personality DaBigRedBoa" aw snap
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so Goon FCs are so bored that they need to listen to nulli coms to get some pew pew ? XD
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This reinforces a lot of what was said in an article a couple of weeks ago.If you can break their tank and they can't break yours then you win, on paper, before the fight starts."It became clear early on who would win the fight. As Nulli Secunda continued to struggle to break Provibloc reps, Provibloc's fleet tore through the Nulli Secunda fleet leaving Ishtar wreck after Ishtar wreck in its wake. "We need REFORM!http://themittani.com/features...
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For Nulli Secunda, this fight was not lost to Proviblock dropping triage-scale quantities of reps on ships. Rather, it had much more to do with damage application and the primary drawbacks of static sentries: hampered mobility and bombability. Any perceived logistics imbalance the game has was not a major component of this fight, and the module wouldn't have changed much.The matchup on paper and in space are often totally different :DAs a side note, I hope Nulli remembers sometime soon that there are HACs that tank and spank harder than Ishtars -- the obsession is getting unhealthy and there's great alternatives right now.
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Please don't even try and make me return to that article, Reform is good and interesting if well thought out but that article was horrible and the author wasn't the sharpest tool in the box either. Feel free to write an improved article by yourself and submit it for critical examination (and more than a few flames knowing TMC)
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NCDOT has no agreements with provibloc
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Hey, debate is healthy, and I don't recall many of the arguments in that article's comment thread degrading to personal attacks or unfounded flaming. Beyond this site and Failheap, there's really not many places to hold relatively-civilized public EvE debate.
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especially with provi's affinity for bombers (and skill it seems) literally the best counter to subcap sentry doctrines, it would be interesting to see what a good old fashion AHAC or even armor T3 gang would of done in this situation
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it's the internet, always be prepared for flame. Personally I don't really consider rants a bad thing though so suppose i'll actually edit that out. Lets face it most of the commenters on TMC are awesome, but we're mostly EvE and ex-EvE players there are a few problems, though I will admit the mods are fast with that hammer :D
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Well, we run armor T3s in the form of triage-supported deathtanked Proteuses with 250mm rails. The qualifier needed is *competent* armor T3 gang -- a condition met maybe two times out of three :DStill, it beats sitting unsubbed in Deklein.
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Deathtanked? That's not a term I've seen somebody use before, but I'm going to assume it involves fitting a ridiculous tank and chuckling at incoming damage.
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Rots got THumped!!!!! hahahahha
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Personally I think the fight was doomed from the start because of bad sov mechanics.Timers + Reps mean whoever can field the biggest fleet will almost certainly win.If it were farms and fields then you could go raiding with a few ships and they would have to muster what they had at the time.
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Dont worry to much we did a short stop to fight Brave and Goons to yester day to that was a fun fight to even that we where out numberd
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Please don't be a cancerous retard all your life Nulli didn't lose because they didn't have enough ships they lost because despite knowing proviblocs fondness of bomber wings they where too impatient to spread out and drop sentries spread out instead of in a clump and lose them all to a bombing run it was impatience that lost this not numbers another 10 seconds have the fleet starburst a little drop drones then anchor and it would've been a lot harder to bomb them all off.
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OH N3 using Paplinks now. I thought it was a stupid way of measure performance according to PGL, when the CFC did it. Nice to see weaker alliances adapting to the masterhive tactics.
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grrrr goons have spies. so mean.
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DBRB is actually also Corebloodbrothers.In fact, there's only one FC in eve, they just put on different voices and multibox so they can command each side.
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Very fun fight, nulli brawls us and has fun, we do the same, boht sides heavy on the logi and struggeld at start, i personally care more for the fight then the timer. Thnx nulli, good job rots, cu soon again
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that's a pathetic excuse and you should feel bad
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Exactly right -- close to 300k.Every time I see that Proteus fit, I get this image of a hyper-1990s grizzly action hero Deathwatch Space Marine smoking a cigar while deflecting bullets with his chin, so, yeah, Deathtanked :D
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I'm totally in accordance with you on the FARMS 'N FIELDS bit!I maintain that particularly heavy reps weren't really what won this fight. Damage inbound to CVA was not applying well.
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"Interestingly, Provibloc has made no recent attempts to retake D-GTMI, currently occupied by Northern Coalition. Rumour states that Provibloc have agreed to let NC. keep the system in exchange for NC. not taking any more systems in Providence, perhaps a first for CVA in terms of negotiating deals with entities outside Providence."You forgot to mention that CFC is currently flooding the Provi market with buy orders for 10-100 times Jita prices on Trit and Pyerite to help fund Provi SRP and players wallet. Meanwhile, PL has sign a secret pact with the remains of AAA to reimburse them for every capital ship that they have lost.....ever! The agreement is in exchange for AAA to hold off Solar Fleet secret attacks. CFC has seen what is going on and decided to reform into The Bastion, leaving null sec behind and joining Winmatar in FW. Now this will put a lot of null sec up for grabs....rumors have been confirmed that a new coalition of Eve Uni, RVB, and Noir will be moving into the northern map as soon as sov has dropped. Also, the southern areas of the map will be turned over to Russian alliance, which will be installing a new program called "Paid to Rent"...where the newly formed Red Solar Dwarf Darkness Army Coalition will actually pay people to come in and mine and rat in there systems. They are also offering a caps for carbon program, exchanging carbon (a highly prized item for russian) for any fully officer fit capital ship of the paid renters choosing.Man....your slipping with your usual stellar investigative reporting that is 99.9% twisted half-truths and propaganda. Come on man, get back on your toes, get out there and make up some news....truthful or not. Get the logs, edit them as much as possible and keep the attention away from CFC problems.
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They are called Rumours and not Facts for a reason.
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Going to have to agree "rumor states that" is not really an acceptable thing to read on a site that considers itself a proper gaming news site. If you really must include that kind of thing then tell us, who is saying these things what is the other side saying about it and can you (TMC) find any credence in either sides argument's.
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Did these rumors happen to come from a source that A) Isn't in proviblock, B) isn't in NCDot, and C) Happens to tell you to add this into the article for drama.In the news word that is called Libel. Let me give you the definition.li·bel\ˈlī-bəl\: the act of publishing a false statement that causes people to have a bad opinion of someone or groupIf you really want to be taken serious as a gaming news site, start putting up the facts, not rumors.
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Thank You! Glad to see others share my opinion of the matter.
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Good morning sunshine
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The source comes from an NCDot friend of mine who tends to be fairly trustworthy however because it was from him i said it was only a Rumour and NOT a Fact. I would not be doing my job if i didn't mention potential Providence news in a article about .... Provi!
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Provi. Block allowing Nc. To keep space...Lmao. that's the most hilarious shit I've heard yet.
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The difference between provi's 5 billion loss and Nulli's 15b is that 5b is 1/3 of the proviblock wallet which has no income besides a raffle, while 15b is only a couple days of rental income from Nulli's cut of the NA pie.
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Look I Spoke! I'm on the Mittani my life is complete!
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You should not use rumors in a news article like this. At least indicate the source of the rumor, which you can do without revealing your source, such as "an unofficial NC. source", and also indicate these are unconfirmed. You should also try to confirm or deny the rumor. Surely, someone from CVA and NC. could be found to go on record with "no comment"? If you want to go even further, you can take the rumor and run with the topic, seeing what you can dig up on the situation in D-GTMI in general. If there's some meat there, take out any tangents regarding D-GTMI from this story, and start working on the next one.That's how journalism works. We don't care how trustworthy you think your friend is, and neither should we have to.
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It is up to people to decide whether they think the RUMOUR is true or not, not me. I've found often in the past that when i ask people in HC of alliances: hey is x,y or z true? Often the opposite tends to be true, thus is the meta. Personally i think this Rumour could be true but we'll see in time i suppose. News sites often make entire newsposts on rumours alone, i simply put it 1 line. Rumours are never confirmed, if they were confirmed then they would be facts and not rumours.
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It is the effort and due diligence one goes through to verify a rumor. An actual news organization, even tabloids, do not get to publish rumors without supporting evidence. We already have forums to go to to get our rumors and shitposting.A rumor is how a story begins, an idea, everything you do to find out more about it is what makes the story.
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This article is about the fight not a rumour.
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So that makes losing a fight to provi carebears OK?
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This has little to do with reps, as CVA had fewer logistics anyways, it's about tactics and damage application. Nulli brought paper to a scissors fight.While it is admirable, somewhat, they stayed as long as they did, there is no ehonor in fighting to the last ship. Once an FC determines a fight is unwinnable, it is his job to get out as much of his fleet as possible, not to tell people to trickle in reinforcements.
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Yes. If it's on The MIttani, it must be true.
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Well I just looked at the market and... no. I can't see orders 10 to 100 times Jita prices for anything except Ruptures (joking).
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Welcome back everybody! I hope you folks are still with us because things are getting seriously heated tonight on set!Martha is tied with Paul for first place and Ron has slowly closed the gap to only 300 points and guess what, this is the last question of this round and it's Ron's turn! *audience applauds*Now Ron, are you ready to play?- Yes Mike I sure am! *audience applauds again*Ok let's see... ahh... ok Ron here it goes. For 1200 points, answer this and you will not only win today's game, but you will also get to compete in the bonus round for a chance to win a brand new Ford Mustang.... Ron.. here we go : Flies ishtars, welps them, to CVA ... GO*Ron seems excited and a faint trembling smile starts shaping on his face*- I think I know this one Mike.You do?- I sure do sir!Well care to let us know as well?- Sure! The answer is, WHO IS NULLI!My, oh my... YOU ARE CORRECT!!!*audience applauds while Ron high fives Paul and gives a hug at Martha*
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"CFC personality DaBigRedBoat posted Nulli Secunda comms from this fight via a spy alt:"More proof that Jean Leaner is too fat to be a spy master
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The foxnews is strong in this one
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Flatterpillo the article would have been great if you would have kept that last little unconfirmed rumor to yourself. However it putting that rumor in was not only poor judgement, but also took away from the whole article. Its like watching the news and seeing a report about a hero saving a group of orphans or kittens, then only to add in at the end that Bigfoot sightings in the local area has been reported.That rumor had nothing to do with what was over wise a good article about a good fight. When you put that unconfirmed rumor into it, well its like a great reminder that where in game some of the reporters are from. Its not just you. EN24 does it as well. Forget the meta, only put out what is fact.
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I think you guys need to do a better job on the "Rumor Mill." As a journalist I can tell you that you are doing a great disservice to YOURSELF and others long term by not following the advice of EVE Truth Reader et al. Reason why: A) avoid libel, forum posts pointing out flawed logic/facts, B) it helps make content doing research and makes you a better writer/researcher, and C) It is obviously better for the reader.
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If you have that much isk, can you send pirate battleship fleets to catch so we can have shiny killmails for our 200-man moa fleets?
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No need to be ashamed, if i'd spent two years in an endless cycle of defeats by the same cunts i'd start copying them too.
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DBRB's spy alt mentioned in this article was caught/kicked and banned last night
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DaBigRedSpy <3
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You know that Sbrodor was not online do you?
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Agreed. Rots is actually a decent FC the vast majority of the time - especially when that shitlord Zhm doesn't speak over him. Zhm knows fuck all about mechanics and strategy, yet tries to FC every fleet he's in, even if another FC is actually in charge.
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Any video from Nulli point of view?
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Well according to a friend of mine over the internet I have inherited a fortune from a Nigerian Prince that died....I only have to send him 500 bucks to start the transfer process. Meanwhile, also in Africa....there is a war going on people police and a militant warlord.See how that works? It doesn't.....
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Actually we can bomb any provi's enemies also if we are offline. there is no way to go out alive !
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No, I think your Eve life will be complete when Black Legion, Shadow Cartel, the CFC, Nulli or whoever else happens to read this, drops your super one of these times that you bring it out with no support and backup is a long ways away.Anyone that looks at your killboard can see you guys do all the time. It's only a matter of time until you attract the wrong kind of attention.Besides, it's clear from your blog that you're already wondering what you've got to show for all the thousands of hours you've poured into this game, so sooner or later you'll realize that Eve has just about worn out its welcome in your life.Then you can move on to an actual life and make some progress on making it complete.But you're stubborn, so I doubt any of that will happen before that Aeon goes pop. Or you'll find a girlfriend that will fascinate you far more than internet spaceships ever can.One or the other.
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Bomba Bomba Bomba!
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He already has a girlfriend, her name is pamela handerson.
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you mean Anita Hanjob?
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Hahaha, you only caught the one mentioned in the article? You need to step up your game!

Nihilists Social Club (NULL) have occupied the G-B22J system in Providence for the past month. Their original campaign initially meant to take the R64 located in G-B22J from Care Factor, but their decision to SBU the system for “lols with heavy Pandemic Legion support quickly led to NULL controlling the system's sovereignty and the station. After only two weeks of holding the system, they tried to sell the system + the outpost on the Eve Online forums but received little serious response. Despite popular rumours that NULL had acquired temporary assistance from PL on a mercenary contract, Pandemic Legion in fact have been blue with NULL for quite some time and were assisting their ally without payment (according to NULL member and ex-CVA member Rovern Hashu). It remains unclear whether PL will show to defensive timers alongside their allies NULL.

At 1900 Eve time on Sunday, Provibloc began forming a fleet to retake G-B22J from NULL.  The night started off rather dull with the Provibloc fleet grinding the infrastructure hub into reinforcement with no opposition. However, just as the station entered reinforced mode Nulli Secunda bridged into system with a fleet of approximately 100 pilots composed of armor Ishtars with 22 Guardians supporting them. Provibloc were in their usual fleet composition of sentry battleships and battlecruisers (primarily the Dominix and Prophecy) backed up by 15 T2 logistics ships and a squad of bombers, weighing in at approximately 160 pilots in total. As Nulli Secunda warped onto the station, they found the Provibloc fleet and its drones already well spread out while they themselves were clumped up. Nulli had no choice but to immediately deploy drones where they spawned, creating a single clump of drones which Provibloc’s bombers could destroy with relative ease. As Nulli Secunda tried in vain to break the tank of the sentry battleships, Provibloc began to target Nulli Secunda Guardians but discovered the Guardians could easily sigtank unless they were webbed. Instead, Provibloc switched onto the Ishtars and applied enough DPS to alpha through Ishtars before the Guardian reps could land.

It became clear early on who would win the fight. As Nulli Secunda continued to struggle to break Provibloc reps, Provibloc's fleet tore through the Nulli Secunda fleet leaving Ishtar wreck after Ishtar wreck in its wake. Provibloc bombers began to clear the field of Nulli sentries, greatly reducing the Nulli fleet's DPS. Nulli pilots self-destructed their pods in order to reship in Kheram, and Nulli bridged another approximately 30 Ishtars midway into the fight. However the Ishtars' tank was simply not enough and they continued to fall in quick succession. Despite the fight being obviously lost, Nulli Secunda chose to stay on field; after losing the vast majority of his fleet, Nulli Secunda FC Rots Mijnwerker eventually sounded the horn of retreat.

Overall, Provibloc took 5B ISK in losses from the fight but managed to dish out over 16B ISK in damages to Nulli Secunda. According to Corebloodbrothers, Provibloc's head FC, Provibloc will continue to attack G-B22J for however long it takes to retake the system, be that 3 days, 3 weeks or 3 months.

Interestingly, Provibloc has made no recent attempts to retake D-GTMI, currently occupied by Northern Coalition. Rumour states that Provibloc have agreed to let NC. keep the system in exchange for NC. not taking any more systems in Providence, perhaps a first for CVA in terms of negotiating deals with entities outside Providence.

 

CFC personality DaBigRedBoat posted Nulli Secunda comms from this fight via a spy alt:

Fight from Provibloc point of view:

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And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.