The DRC: Scared to Death?

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I really hope GSF steps in to support fazor here. I want this war to go on for longer, adn lead to proper supercap brawlsd between N3 and the cfc/solar.
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logs? vince talks about it here: http://soundcloud.com/r00te/45...
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That's vince talking. Much like every other CEO talks smack at one time or another. Concrete proof > conjecture. Just because someone said it happened doesn't mean it did. (Like me saying I rape caged your mom's asshole)
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As long as PL and N3/NCDot/WhateverHorribleConglomorationOfLetters keep propping up the bloated corpse of RA, I will have no respect for them.
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PL's elite pvp skills:http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=k...Not butthurt (since we're literally swimming in blue loot), I just find it mind bogglingly retarded. It's like using a nuke to sabdue a wild dog.
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how did solar reset u930 ? i was thinking we already took it ...
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Pretty much, Flame Bridge did jack, the coalition constantly at war when I got there. They alienated their indy corps. SOLAR did this to themselves, they never once came to help us after the constant help we gave them. If they would have helped us get LEM back we could have at least held them off for awhile longer. Goodfites were had at least but unfortunately we were out matched. The amount of spies and awoxers some of the other corps let is was astounding, they had a constant knowledge of what was going on and never once tried to keep anything a secret. But we fought until the end and I will give them their due, at least we don't run from fights.
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The DRC was a new thing that came around when SOLAR basically abandoned us. We literally were a month old as a coalition and were made up of all the alliances that were already there, we literally merged with BCA a week before this all happened. Most of the corps there, ours included, were mining corps. All that Solar did by leaving us to die is to leave them open for attack. I hope SOLAR can make some good friends quick...
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Definition of SEVERAL2a : more than one (several pleas) b : more than two but fewer than many (moved several inches) c chiefly dialect : being a great manySource: merriam-webster.com
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Why did you say nigger?
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I wonder where flamebridge was while all this was going down?!
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LOL Didnt run?? Were you even at the LEM or the LXQ fight? Which was by far the best one DRC had even though LEM fell!
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What the fuck did I just read. Flame Bridge was a renter alliance the whole time and never helped do jack shit. In fact they constantly had a problem with AWOXERS coming in and killing other corps stuff and doing nothing about it. Secondly we were fighting off PL the best we could so to say we weren't standing with SOLAR is horseshit, they ended up setting us neutral after we lost and SOLAR made no attempt to help us which in turn would have helped them. Not only that but SOLAR never attempted to bring us along with them, now they have lost all of their support because they turned on us.
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LEM fell a long time ago. We have been in constant battle the whole time. I don't see what you are saying? How did we run?
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Running & docking games was play number 1 in the DRC HC handbook! And that should have said LXQ was best fight......your kb tells me that unless you pvp'd with an alt you werent there for 90% of the bs in DRC.
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SOLAR never surrender because need space for RMT activity
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I think you were hit so hard you forgot how to use the word "subdue"
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brew does...
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I farm PL cyno alts even dropping 16 black ops they cant save them...
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Of course it is..Did you not get the HC memo that the DRC was "all" BCA,the rest were just along for the glory? They actually believed they were more than meatshields for Solar!
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if not retarded then excessively nitpickingy - a few hundred would be more accurate, but several isn't particularly wrong
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it's actually kinda fun sometimes :) not sure where you got the idea PL is against structure grinding / sov tho ?
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Educational ! Thanks.
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BCA fought the good fight....however it was hot drop o'clock by PL every......fucking time. Even on small 19man roams dropping supers......really PL? Just a fucking waste of a possible good fight. Time and time again supers dropped on little fights......fuck that PL you guys are piss poor fighting small young alliances like that. Dude drop supers on the sbus and sov to make the grind easier, but at least try and show the world u can pvp a good fight. Or is it just super caps fights that sov space has been reduced to?
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I dont remember str8nge brew ever giving up?
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Sad to see BCA HC do this, I liked Sho Menao, best wishes to that guy. I'm just a nabcake pilot, not been in the game too long-but at some point I'd like to think that the DRC will reform, get it's affairs in order, and adapt. Sure, we may not be able to contend with PL's slowcat fleets right now, but it doesn't mean to say we won't do our best to hit back somehow, somewhere. I don't know enough to start calling people out or shit talk alliances/coalitions, but I think the balance between PvP and indy is an inherently risky equation. Looking at PL, all I see is a goddamn PvP steamroller, but like any steamroller, if you kill the driver, he isn't going to crush your testicles.Disheartened to see BCA crumple like that, but eh, I'm still going to fight for DRC.
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Really? The propaganda is being laid thick and sloppy here. The reason no one's heard of Flame Bridge until now is they've done fuck all for months, except of course incessantly bitch about DRC alliances using "their" jump bridges.
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Whose cock you sucking? The "drc" was a joke and the alliances swallowed up in that fake ass coalition were there long before bca come on the scene! The drc were never partners, allies or equals as far as solar was concerned, the drc were disposable and the sooner you accept that fact the sooner you will realize you have been raped in the ass hard core by your "high command" !!
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"Look how awesome I am guys, loooook"~EONDEPOT
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:)
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u didn't do shit bitch :)
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If you think that anything you met was hot drop o'clock then you severely misunderstand just how much was being held back. I seem to recall you guys even running from t1 frigs, so that excuse wears really thin when you don't actually engage anything beyond forming a token fleet to defend your key systems. So make up more small roams that got "super dropped" and scurry on to the next pet alliance.
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Hi friend, that's called fishing. It's just a gank not an e-honourable battle, which I'm sure is all that you ever engage in.
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Have you sent isk to Tobruk Lately Rahvin? Or been kicked out of another alliance?
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Fazor are not in GW to help solar they've come down for good fights and that's it and from what i've read here it seems that solar is just like AAA treating allies as Pets and abandoning them when they need you does come back to bite you. Seriously do russians never learn lol.
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who?
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ITT: Fedaykin055
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The history shows that 'some russians' may very well stay sieged forever and then start taking it all back. Remember C-J. Yes, now these are different times, different warfare, way too different blobs, but yet ... Time will show.
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You hang out behind his mom and threaten to shoot anything that comes out?
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There'll always be brave newbies :)
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War, war never changes. Bullets fired, ships destroyed, people killed, KM's whored by FA logistics with autocannons

(Author's note: I'm going to warn the reader now, this article is going to be biased. But why, Grath? Well, because my side is currently winning, and that's just how Caesar said it should work a long time ago. Win, and you get to do a victory dance.)

The Backstory

Assuming you haven't been following my somewhat sporadic ramblings about this, here's the recap. During the AAA war that burned for half of last year, SOLAR decided on a few occasions to lend a little support. At the close of that war, Pandemic Legion (PL) decided to move east to Uemon and give the Drone Region Coalition (DRC) a little payback. Never let it be said that Shadoo doesn't keep his word. At the same time, N3 had just wrapped up the occupation of its staked-out space in the south and turned its gaze east, towards the southern drone expanses.

N3 began a slow burn of the southern half of the Drone Regions, aided by Red Alliance (RA), if you can call what RA does "aid". In the north, PL began harassing coalition members like SCdot and Black Core Alliance (BCA). Intrepid Crossing (IRC) had been rendered inert by an accidental set of moves from RAZOR, so the coalition wasn't really at full strength, despite the relative peace they had been enduring.

Over the weeks, PL would milk what fights they could from the smaller alliances, many of which were decidedly one way because the young, new groups had no answer to the triage carriers PL has become known for. This meant the southern fights often were just SOLAR. Some they would win and some they would lose to the combined weight stacked against them. Make no mistake, dear reader, SOLAR is a very good opponent. Their relative participation levels and FC skills should never be overlooked, and if you should find a very large herd of Russians knocking at your door, bearing their flag, you should probably know you're going to want help. Fast.

So-lar, Farewell

I say that because it's all but over for SOLAR now. The first battle of U930 gave SOLAR's lesser allies false hope. The chest beating about the terrible things they were going to do (seriously, some of you have issues. Seek help.) to the forces who had dared to attack SOLAR's empire was on a scale rarely seen in EVE. It spawned this mail:

The next 21 hours BCA is under Marshall Law.

All fleets will be Mandatory during Marshall Law.

If a fleet is called and your online you will be in that fleet or logged off.

Anyone caught ignoring the fleet will be jepordizing [sic] their corporations membership in BCA. (I dare you to test me on this one)

THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN ATTENDING FLEETS!

-Renarri
Executive Officer of Black Core Alliance

Then, on the day of the second battle for U930:

General Order 1 is now in effect. Until further notice, all of DRC is under martial law. All fleets called are required. More orders to follow. Place ships per required fits in our staging locations.

Sullen Arise
BCA CEO

I don't know about you, but the name "General Order One" alone makes me scared to be logged in.

The outcome of all of this now has become plainly obvious. They were routed completely. Intelligence had failed them and not caught the supers that crept in like a thief in the night. The fight was decided before it ever began. A new strategy was tabled after their resounding defeat: BCA would now field the tried and true "Blue Ball PL" campaign, as SOLAR was in slight disarray. Nobody had expected to lose.

None of it would matter. N3 sealed the coffin shut with their move to LEM. The Fortress that was the Drone Regions had now become a tomb; they would sit and starve like a castle under siege. People sometimes complain about the blue masses of coalitions, but I believe the DRC war here illustrates why these happen more out of need and less out of cowardice. EVE's "living in space" dynamic is currently way out of whack. There isn't any way the space can really support the industrial needs of a group living in it. The belts and mining anomalies can't possibly supply the minerals needed for an extended siege, much less the ammo or build slots to keep up with it all.

Black Core Alliance now felt this acutely. There was no way out. Every single system that might grant their jump freighters a breath was gone. In its place was a cold, terrifying darkness, with a boogeyman behind every shadow. Cynos and interdictors waited for the doomed craft. Nothing moved without PL or N3's say so.

February 26th was the proverbial straw. If you've ever seen the PL supercapital fleet, you'll know what I'm talking about. If you haven't, imagine the most ridiculous spectacle of power ever displayed in EVE. Massive and overwhelming are words that completely fail to capture the scope of what's in front of you. Several hundred supercarriers, and well over a hundred titans, means that we don't even bother reporting normal cap numbers. You can see them in pictures, though. They're what look like the small schools of fish around the huge beasts that are the titans.

BCA hadn't seen it until that day. They'd only had small flashes of it here and there. At around 23:00, February 26, we put it in their living room. SBUs had been anchoring all evening across much of Malpais. N-YL, the latest of BCA's slightly mobile capitals, would be where the Shock and Awe would begin. Within a few hours, seventeen systems were reinforced around the area by PL alone. NCdot and the forces of N3 were pressuring separate areas. The effects were both devastating and immediate:

With all of the issues, and with the political concerns, The HC has determined that to be fair and honest, BCA alliance will be turned back over to Numenor and he will be making a deal to become a renter.

With that said, here is the order of operations that want to remain with Sullen Arise as Alliance CEO. I have spoke to most CEOs and here is the path.

1. Xfer sov and station to Dark Star Enterprise This is my holding group until Sov can be addressed.

2. Get your shit out to the Forge low sec ASAP. Remember still a war dec.

3. Drop from Black Core Alliance if you wish to go with us.

4. Apply to new alliance S E D I T I O N Sullen has control of this allaince [sic] and we shall reform under this group.

We want to keep the family together, so please do as you feel is correct and right. Lets keep it civil, and cause no grief.

Sullen Arise

Unconditional Surrender

They couldn't get mails out fast enough. PL directorate and FC mail boxes lit up with requests for negotiations. The High Council of BCA was now public enemy number one around the alliance and an "every man for himself" attitude swept through like wildfire. It would be Chareck of NCdot who negotiated the final deal:

[08:24] <Chareck> it we myself who arrange the BCA deal which ment we got control of both their pet alliances too
[08:31] <Chareck> they basicly got double teamed by me and shadoo once i check if you guys were up for it
[08:33] <Chareck> make sure you mention tho neither of us paying them isk to hand this shit over

Other alliances in the coalition swiftly followed suit. It would seem that SOLAR would stand alone.

SOLAR Stands Alone? Not Quite

At the writing of this, one ally has decided that they will stand with SOLAR: Flame Bridge. If you're thinking "Who?", don't feel bad. Before yesterday, I hadn't heard about them either. I know them now though. They too came to seek terms at first, although their demands were much more forceful in the talks than everybody else's: they wouldn't join any renter alliance, they would keep their own flag, and things like that. Then, curiously, SOLAR issued an order that Flame Bridge jam all their space. And suddenly the most amazing thing happened, they did.

In modern EVE, it is nothing short of phenomenal that an ally would stand shoulder to shoulder and fight to the end. Far too often, friends give up, or even worse become the enemy. If for no other reason than because it's easier. Flame Bridge would not go that route. In what can be described as a ninja move, SOLAR was able yesterday morning to completely reset U930 to its original state. All progress on the system was lost and it's back under SOLAR's total control. The old girl still has some fight in her.

I'm not foolish enough to believe it will amount to much. SOLAR is now 200 men short in fleet fights due to the implosion of so many of its allies in such a short span, and saying logistics are a nightmare doesn't even begin to cover it for the besieged empire. The only aid that's shown up has been FA and RAZOR, which largely has amounted to bickering amongst their member corps about whore guns on logistics ships. Short of that, it's getting camped in, getting cut off, or bringing a T1 cruiser fleet, as in the first U930 fight. In other words, useless. For now, though, maybe the friendship and the rare good spirit of an ally (Flame Bridge), and a few small victories will hold the SOLAR forces spirits through what is amounting to a very long night. More likely, in the coming weeks, the Drone Lands will be out of Russian control for the first time in four years.

[name_1]
Sniggerdly CEO, I took the job after Shamis Orzoz stepped down (long live the king). Between my Kugu posting, several mails, and a recording here or there I've earned a reputation as "The Hate Monger of PL".