The Delve Saturday Thunderdome

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Dick move, HBC wasn't interfering with CFC strategic operations, but I'm sure they will now. It would be a shame if half an alpha fleet didn't make it to a precious tech moon save.
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They are already, believe me ^^
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14% tidi?
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As for TRIBE, the bombers only got about 15-16 drakes and our vulture. The rest that died in that engagement were tackle. Our vulture did buy it. It hadn't been clear to us that bombers were in k-6. Ammzi really held it together/ Most of us made it back from that engagement and the one with Black Legion later that evening.
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yeah like Mercs SBUing systems is something different
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Facts are not important when you're in the CFC
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"20 Drakes and lots of tackle die to a bomb run while preparing to a stratop"Totally newsworthy.Specially ignoring the brawl of BL against HBC that happend 15 mins after that included DD'd carriers where BL fought outnumbered 3:1 and came up on top (on isk war anyways).The quality of this site has been decreasing fast, their should't let FCs write their own articles, its just pathetic.
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I'm sure TEST would love to be able to play the Strat Op card every time Vee is murdering another of their fleets.
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Part of resetting each other is trying to get kills when and where you can. There's nothing really wrong with what the CFC did. Besides I'm not sure you can keep calling things 'stratops' when it's just BL and some small alliances putting up SBU's to get fights.
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"specially ignoring" your terrible english, any other reasons that YOU can't be bothered to make a submission?? Too lazy/special/bad/retarded? Well, you sure know how to complain REEL GUD.gtfo
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After waiting for at least an hour to mash the bomb butan, friends turn up JUST as we're about to go so I had to bug out. This stupid bloody game. 99% boredom 1% terror.
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Please feel free to submit your thrilling article about test killing a random BL staging tower while you masturbate wildly over your ISK WAR VICTORY.
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You had ~800 in local to our 100 t1 cruisers. Are you honestly complaining about not being able to scare us off long enough to jump or bridge out to your strat op?
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Was the FC of the RvB Ganked fleet. We where basically just looking for a place to whelp and K-6 looked like it had 300+ pilots in system when we set out around 0:00 eve time for our second part of the roam.We must have entered K-6 while the CFC fleet was away to reform. As we where fighting on the sun vs the test ECM heavy frigate gang I noticed a large fleet of caracals landing on grid, I initially didn't notice they where goons. Would have stayed longer if I had realized it was a 3-way.
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Was a good run by Vee.As for the BL fight. We could drop 400 foxcats on them and pretty much take no losses aside from tackle. But what is the fun in that? They wouldn't fight us, and all the bombers in the world aren't going to take down a foxcat fleet.BL brings their 100-150 man blob-resistant fleet of either Lokis or Ahacs with tons of firewall (which they've gotten quite good at controlling). We bring a shit load of drakes who really don't do a lot of damage to begin with, and combined with BL firewall...well yeah. All of our dictors/tacklebros, and a shit load of drakes die to the very disciplined fleet fire from BL and PIZZA raking the fleets with bombs. We move in slowcats and pink off a few ahacs/lokis. Repeat.It's a formula for fun; BL can bring their smaller fleet sizes that mow through drakes, we can bring ALL of the things, and everyone has a good time. If we break the efficiency point then \O/ . Sure, we could show up in ships that would give us a great looking killboard. But really. Who gives a shit.
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It's the principle of the matter. You showed up knowing a stratop was going out, reset or not, it's a dick move.
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Did you just take DingoGS' post from TEST forums and post it here as your own?
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First off, it was strategic. There were no SBUs, but a purging BL super POSes is strategic. Not allowing them to stage there keeps our capital fleet safer by giving us more warning to their formups as they would have to midpoint into Delve.Secondly, why there is no formal NIP, the CFC knew that op was forming and essentially tried to interfere with it, that's as good as taking BL's side by most measures. The CFC probably would feel the same if the HBC showed up in a similar circumstance/manner.
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Random? Last I checked 40 supers were known to be logged inside of it.
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This has been going on for two weeks. None of the spergs in TEST realized what was going on and just bitched and moaned, and THEN dingo had to make a post.
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So, killing 3 titans multiple SCs and a bunch of caps was a polite e-honorable thing to do?
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We showed up literally hours before the stratop and noone came out to fight us properly.
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The fact is: from the time I woke up yesterday until 11pm est US Delve was a bloodbath. Mister Vee had like a 10 hour marathon going and at one point we had Vee, Laz, Boat and Suas in fleet. Brdoc was down last night but by all estimates we destroyed upwards of 400 ships in the span of 3 major engagements in D-3, 319 and K-6 yesterday. And as for Dingo below me- we werent at the BL. brawl which turned into a non-issue once Elo died. Feel free to submit a BR Mr. Crabby-Pants
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I am pretty sure all of delve would like to see the foxcats; HBC, CFC, and even BL
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"20 Drakes and lots of tackle die to a bomb run while preparing to a stratop"Totally newsworthyMr. Dingo didnt think the K-6, D-3 and 319 brawls were newsworthy so why would 800 in a staging system with 100 carriers and dreads on standby to kill the tower of a 150 man BL. fleet be newsworthy lol?
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Shut up stupid.
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Please read montolios posts on wanting to kill the CFC and then ask how we feel about it.Please QQ more.
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The drakes died because the FC didn't listen to intel. They were told the exact number and the composition of bombers, and that they were out there. FC didn't change the resists, and guess what? They got blown to bits.The FC's that DID listen to intel? Lost 3-4 ships from 8 bombing waves.
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I hear that Kcolor has a very good perspective from the command chair of other people's bombing runs.
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Didn't Test just drop SBUs on VFK last week? was that differet somehow?
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Where ever TEST is staging is always the most destructive system in EVE, on average.*not sure if news*
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He worded it incorrectly, but he was saying that BL won the isk war despite fighting 3:1. If the original article wants to site numbers of ships killed then the BL fight was by far more interesting.Or I could just be a rambling cunt like you and HURR DURR GET MAD CAUSE WE WRITE BORING ARTICLES NERD.
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I find it funny that instead of judging an article for it's quality someone has to also make one to prove it? That's like ignoring a professional taster or movie critic because they aren't a great chef or can't act.Holy shit think before you talk. Literally EN24 in here lately. Literally.
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All this Test anger at CFC for interfering with a strat op...Because fighting 3to1 is dangerous against BL, need at least 4to1 to come out even on isk war.I have an Idea Test, grow some balls and do something about it! Or just keep wining to CFC how they are playing unfair as neutrals. Honestly, bunch of whiny babies unwilling to stop the big bad CFC, Hilarious.
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blablabla nobody cares.I'm glad Vee is down for goodfights, same with BL.Peace is boring, bring it.
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Who's gonna run this interference? You guys get destroyed before you even make it to vfk :v
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Actually, I have pages and pages of tears from local, including some ISK I scammed from ratters by saying I'd leave if they paid me.
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Actually it's funny you say that. The CFC struggled to hold their own against BL in the US TZ, even when outnumbering them similarly.
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Who gives a fuck
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So Dingo posted, then you just happened to make a post almost exactly like it here?
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I know the CFC has been frustrated by getting shutdown whenever they actually undock and come to K-6, but I'm suprised you guys are so excited about a small bombing run it necessitates an article. Cool story, bros.
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Completely agree. The HBC Rokhfleet vs BL Rokh + Oracle fleets over structures haven't exactly been either fair or fun.https://kb.pleaseignore.com/?a...It's a hell of a lot of fun thunderdoming it up with BL, Pizza, and the CFC in a system not two bridges away from K-6. Hats off to FCs that resist the Foxcat formup erection and go with fleet compositions BL can actually handle.
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If folks not in TEST want it from the horse's mouth, here's DingoGS in the pleaseignore forums:"Many of you have raised the concern lately on why are we doing drakes and not droping rokhs or battleships on this timers."You are probably aware by now that Black Legion and Pizza combined can pull up to 180ish dudes and that's pushing it a lot. You are probably also aware that we can pull about 600 dudes on the same battles."So what do you think would happen if we drop a 200man foxcat fleet with a 200 overflow fleet and 100 caps on the tower grid and just sit there? Yeah, it's quite easy to figure it out, blueballs!."All I can tell you people it's that i will keep pushing for fun over "I overpower you and you are forced to run away" and that's the reason we are not going to be droping foxcats for every timer but we will have skirmish doctrines rolling around, trying to provide brawls and fun for everyone."Dingo is the most beloved of TEST FCs for a reason. In addition to his sultry, exotic accent, he understands the difference between having fun and powerfucking enemies with 600 foxcats.
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Roderick Grey - Black Legion. - Pilot Efficiency (ISK): 98.76%Suddenly, it's clear why you're not getting it.You're being farmed for fights, and you are the first alliance since August to undock in the face of more than fifty TEST pilots in local. Dingo's not just spouting some kind of Mittani-grade damage control in his post; we've been downshipping to Drakes and T1 frigates against -A- since they lost most of Catch.
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I'm not commenting on Dingo's post. I'm wondering why this person has commented on themittani with a post almost exactly like Dingo's without referencing him.But if you want to discuss Dingo's post, we can:We all know that an alliance of 1,500 could never stand against the HBC as a whole, that's just common knowledge, individual player skill is important, but there comes a point where numbers /shiptypes nullify that advantage. Black Legion isn't getting "farmed" for fights, we literally deployed to this region for fights, we fight you on our terms and Dingo's smart enough to know that if he strives to win instead of making the fights engage-able and fun we'll leave and find fights elsewhere.Also, TEST doesn't just use drakes and tackle, they use T3 BC's and slowcats frequently and the second they see a cap on field they drop everything on it, Titans, dreads, drakes everything. implying your coalition is dumbing itself down entirely to drakes is an insult to your combatants and a downright lie, we're having fun, you're having fun, leave the propaganda at home.Lastly, I never even remotely implied that I disagreed or agreed with Dingo's post in any of my comments before this one, the fact that you chose to state that it ISN'T damage control tells me that there's people in your coalition you should be arguing this with, not me.
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Nope.
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You know that anyone, including CFC and HBC players, can get a huge isk efficiency just by doing fleets, right? It's a meaningless statistic and a really poor indicator of anything.
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bitter goonies, not chill at all,I distinctly remember an alliance called THORN that was kicked out of HBC because they brought some cloakies when CFC needed to do ~~~strategic stuff~~~ and how this was expressly against the bropact...
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That is a part of the point.

After the reset between Goonswarm and TEST Alliance, Delve has become a hotbed of PvP. A large number of Goonswarm pilots have moved down to NPC Delve, including essentially all of the combat squadrons & SIGs. Joining the fray from far away are Pizza and Black Legion. Tribal Band and Li3 bolster HBC fleets. Also spotted in Delve: Bombers Bar and RvB. Fights are bloody and constant.

On February 10, a Caracal fleet lead by Mister Vee entered the TEST home system K-6K16 and began to wreak havoc on stragglers, afkers and general miscreants that don't read intel before warping to station. Nothing major happened at first, but local began to rise as TEST started to form for a strat op against Black Legion. Vee pulled back to regroup and reship the few who died.

The Caracal fleet led by Mister Vee returned to K-6, this time with bomber support lead by Kcolor. Local continued to climb as more HBC members entered K-6 for the strat op. With tidi reaching 14%, Drake fleets, Oracle fleets, and a capital fleet undocked. The majority of the HBC subcap force bridged out of system from a safe POS. The remaining fleet, a TRIBE gang in Drakes, was left to defend the capitals. This was a smart move, as the Caracal force could keep the capitals on station with a bubble and cut them off from the fight. With the Caracals returning to station now that tidi was easing up, the Tribal Drakes followed suit.

It was a trap. After the bombers had waited patiently on the station for almost an hour, they finally revealed themselves to the enemy. With a dictor bubble on the drakes followed immediately by bombs, the TRIBE fleet saw its numbers drop by 50 instantly. While that number could have been a lot larger, the TRIBE fleet showed great composure and level-headedness by aligning out. When the bombs killed the bubble, a large number of TRIBE drakes were able to warp away with ~10% shields and avoid the last few bombs. Here's EVE-kill's pull of the fighting.

After Goonswarm left, TEST et al were able to continue onto their strategic operation against BL. According to this brdoc, it does not look like it went well. It is believed, though, that the HBC achieved their strategic objective during the op. All-in-all, a very bloody day in Delve, with hopefully more to come!

Kcolor, primary cap FC of the CFC. @KcolorCFC Did I interest you in EVE? http://tinyurl.com/cff4nrd Did I interest you in LoL? http://tinyurl.com/b9ezx8h