CSM 8 Officers announced

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It's better to hold the strings than be the puppet.I'm sure the CSM8 will do a good job if CCP step up and give them the support they deserve. Who gets what job title in an unpaid group doesn't really matter.
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I mostly agree. The biggest advantage of being the chairman would be the ability to phrase the announcements, but that's really not all that much. It will be interesting to watch this CSM take shape.
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To be honest I kind of pushed for Trebor as chair. I feel like we have so many new faces on the CSM including myself, and knowing how much experience he has with the previous CSM's, it makes sense to put someone with knowledge of the process in charge of the group. The chair, or any team leader really, is not supposed to be the idea guy or the expert, he just has to manage the ideas and push them in a coherent direction. I know a lot of people have always had mixed feelings about Trebor on the CSM, but he really is the right guy for the job.
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That was my first thought of why it happened when I saw it. I was still very surprised though.
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This is going to piss off Poetic Stanziel =D
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Also, a CFC guy (on an article here?) recently just admitted that they were negotiating for chairman votes when deciding on the CFC/HBC ballot, so I wonder what happened there? If mynna doesn't care, why were negotiators trying to get him into a position?
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Mynnna said he withdrew his name from the candidacy in the officers announcement thread.
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Do the positions actually mean anything, with regards to who goes to Iceland or not? I thought, other than the two top candidates, everyone else was entirely up to CCP. not positions.Edit - Checking the white paper, I'm right. The positions have nothing to do with who goes to the summits. That's down to activity and experience in the areas to be discussed.
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The officers are essentially guaranteed a spot in Iceland.CCP is very reluctant to pick who goes, as it could be seen as favoritism, so the CSM and election does most of the picking instead.-----"Edit - Checking the white paper, I'm right. The positions have nothing to do with who goes to the summits. That's down to activity and experience in the areas to be discussed."With regards to that, I'd be _very_ surprised if CCP didn't let CSM consensus do the choosing for them. Officially CCP does the picking, but behind the scenes and due to aforementioned reluctance to appear biased, I'm pretty confident the CSM will at the very least be heavily influencing who gets the 5 slots.
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To think that the officers won't go is rather silly. They'd have to really cock up or slack off not to be the ones to go.
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I'm pretty sure that exactly with a show of unbias in mind CCP will choose who will go in such a matter that the most active members of each community will be chosen to go so they'll have a fair reprensentation of all player groups at the summits, i.e. 2 nullsec, 2 highsec, 1 wormhole representative.
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I would definately like to see how the votes are devided. Im sure Trebor will make a fine chairman, but personally I had expected Mynnna to sit in the chair... Especially now that Mittens won't be on the counsil any longer :(.
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I believe that, but I mean, why? That clearly wasn't the plan from the beginning, he must have had a change of heart about the worth of the position at some point
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I wish we could clone Mittens, one for the CFC and one for the CSM and maybe a few to buzz around CCP ;)
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As long as you are confident you can keep his shit tier pubbie ideas for the game out of the picture, then fine.
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A Mittens buzzing around CCP, yeah! Perhaps he could rename VFK-IV to Mittensville :D
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Mittens, get back on the horse. Find a way to get back. I'll vote you for the chairman every frakkin' time, and Im positive Im not the only one. Thousands of people want YOU there.
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This meme is getting stale
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I don't think it "sets the stage for an apathetic CSM" so much as I believe it's just an indicator that most of us favor focusing on the duties all CSM members share, rather than the additional duties of the officer positions. I'm confident, however, that those elected to the officer positions will be able to perform both as an officer and for their normal member duties.
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The reason that Aleks didn't talk about "the coup" is because it never existed in the first place. It's nothing more than a half-assed attempt at spin originating from those who couldn't possibly believe we picked Seleene (just as people are shaking their heads right that Mynnna wasn't chosen). Literally the exact same thing happened as did with CSM8 - we came together, cast a vote, it was decided almost unanimously, and life moved on while a certain fanboy sect facepalmed and cried about it. :-P
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Sort Dragon has already vowed to usurp the officer positions if they don't fall in line...
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... Dumbledore is gay ...Cmon, what do you think he would do with mittens ?(Obligatory : FUCK GOONS)
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"Two Step forcibly removed from the chairman spot"Didnt talk about it because it never happened. Two Step was never chairman, ever. He lost in a vote, badly, that is all.
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He should've been chair, but that was CCP forgetting their own rules after their little game of Twister trying to simultaneously ban Mittens and yet "allow" him to run again in the future. Nothing to do with the CSM. I think that's what people keep mis-remembering (Hans included).
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Less a case of forgetting rules and more the case of there weren't any rules written for that situation. CCP Xhagen made the call for the CSM to vote instead of passing it to the next highest in the election or drawing straws or witch dunking or any number of ways it could have been handled.So we had one round of voting and Seleene won. Easily.
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And that's the shit of an odd situation. I personally think that the final punishment they doled out is what kept the situation within rules they had, but that's immaterial. The main thing is that the "order" to vote was straight from CCP and not a CSM invention or anything, hence no coup.
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I believe Two Step had the second highest vote count in that election. Which meant that when the Mittani resigned that made him chairman. However due to the rule change he was voted out. I think that is what the author was getting at. I may be wrong.
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Yeah I'm with you on this. People are going to run it into the ground.
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"Going to"?
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It was more of a basic politicking perspective. I wanted to give him the opportunity to do it, should he want to do it, but he decided after the permanent seat announcement that he had other priorities. I had commitments from highsec/nullsec/wh candidates on Chair votes in the event it was necessary.
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By "thrown" you mean "ran naked into the middle of the street covered in shaving cream with a bullseye painted on his chest screaming 'COME AT ME, BRO!' at a bus", right?
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After
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You invented Trebor as chairman you piece of shit
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brogod invented running stuff into the ground
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progod invented stale
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progod invented going to
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Progod also invented JEFFRAIDER, btw
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I don't think that "CCP" - meaning CCP Dolan, who will do the actual picking - will be at all reluctant to pick who goes. He might take a week to tell us who, but he's not going to have any problem with doing it.
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There were only a few days of rather unintense discussion about the positions. In fact I think there was probably more discussion about the Vice's than the mains. The tone of our discussions has been really co-operative and consensus driven. You're not going to see an apathetic CSM8. You're probably just going to see a rather boring CSM8 which is centred on getting shit done rather than providing drama fodder.
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It was just the impression I got from reading the CSM minutes; CCP Xhagen seemed very reluctant to the idea of CCP picking who got to attend in person.However, now that you've mentioned CCP Dolan I have no doubt he'll be doing the actual picking. Dolan is Dolan is Dolan.
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Confirmed: the dirty filthy, afk-cloaking, hot dropper wants to ruin EVE and turn it into WOW; the space ship edition.Also, God hates you for being retarded.

CCP Dolan has announced the results of the CSM 8 Officers position vote in an Eve Online forum post:

Greetings,

I am proud to announce that after only a single round of voting the officers for the 8th Council of Stellar Management have been selected. They are as follows:

Chairman: Trebor Daehdoow
Vice Chair: Ripard Teg
Secretary: Kesper North
Vice Secretary: Ali Aras

I look forward to a great year of working with CSM8 and all of the officers.

Many people, myself included, were taken aback by the results. Noticeably missing is mynnna, ProGodLegend, and Sort Dragon—the three main representatives from the biggest coalitions in null sec at the time of the election. Only Kesper North from Gentleman's Agreement represents the big coalitions in the officers roles. This doesn't mean he will be the only one at the summit; mynnna accrued the largest number of votes, and has been guaranteed a spot. With CCP's new system of 2+5, this should leave two spots at the summit. This is because Ripard Teg took the second most votes accrued as well as the Vice Chairman position. If you would like more information on this, refer to this dev blog or our article on it by mynnna.

So now that we know the who, how about the why? CCP Dolan states it only took one round of voting, which seems to imply a certain amount of unanimity. According to the CSM, though, it seems more like apathy. Our own mynnna said "Only Trebor and Ripard wanted chair, and Ripard was willing to step aside for Trebor. Only Kesper wanted secretary, so that was that, and then Ripard was happy to take either vice, and there was one other person for each vice." Not the kind of response many of us were expecting. Whether this sets the tone for an apathetic CSM remains to be seen.

There is also the chance that this isn't apathy, but instead a willingness to cooperate. It's unlikely we'll see the kind of infighting that CSM7 began with. In a previous article, Alekseyev Karrde looked back at the triumphs and failures of CSM7, though he doesn't talk about the coup that happened early on in their term with Two Step forcibly removed from the chairman spot. Hopefully this paves the way to a more collaborative CSM that can expand upon the successes of its predecessor. A CSM that both CCP and players will look back with fondness and nostalgia.

I've spent time in NPC null, high sec, faction warfare, and several null alliance blocs. I've dabbled in many aspects of the game, but really enjoy learning new nuances.