CFC Destroys Alleged Titan Spy

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its another dead titan and thats good enough for me. Death to Supercaps and all that.
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one down...
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No one thought he didn't jump, didn't talk and logged off because of a disconnect?
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The intriguing tales of deceit, destruction, and drama that this war is making are just delicious. Long may it continue.
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This once mighty alliance had much respect in Eve Online.Today they grab every shit pilot that can fly a cap.They went from a fearfull merc alliance to a risk averse renting only fighting if we can win and blob kings of highsec wanne be REVENANT scrub alliance.Keep it up PL one day you become revenent again.
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A disconnect would have dropped him out of fleet immediately among other things, and reading the story it evidently took place over some time, so no
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How did they got the IP of the PL-Pilot?
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It's nice to see that, rather than eating their Test young, the CFC has decided to eat itself! Keep on keepin' on, clearly a winning strategy.
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Goddamn, son- you are one edgy mofo
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Fuck!! i mis the focking TITAN KILL FML!!!!
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The Mittani sends his regards.
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Clearly removing spies is harmful. What the fuck do you people smoke?
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Digi happened.
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Shit post less. I still love you.
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Why on earth would you bring another alliance(BL) in on a titan kill when you have him hook line and sinker and then they kill your bubbler.Seems BL have got it ,kin sweet at moment....
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I guess I missed that part where the claims of spy were validated, and not just a really bad attempt at boosting morale and keeping supers subbed.
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Interesting that they decided to out the spy by killing his titan, rather than some more subtle manipulation, such as using the spy as a channel for spreading mis-information which I though would be more mitten's style.The funniest way to get rid of the spy, would be to drop them into a PL ambush with no support, and let PL take out their own (alleged) spy.
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Silly noob
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Please link the cap they took from you so we can all laugh at the tears.
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Ha ha ha ha ha nail on the head son
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Indeed it pays to be a CFC pet these days.
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Heheh, the IP story is a fabrication. It was an alleged spy, but there's strong evidence that the allegation was planted by PL/BL and CFC killed their own titan that was AFK.If a rumor, allegation and being AFK are enough for killing a corp member's titan, who in their right mind would want to fly their supers in CFC? Whose super is going to go down next?No wonder why CFC has "issues" with fielding supers...
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Please tell us more about this "strong evidence".
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"strong evidence" where is it?
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Titan doesn't jump - doesn't disconnect and is the wrong tower - senior CFC FC in position to investigate with appropriate ship. Assuming this is all accurate facts then it is extraordinary sequence of events or it was planned. Seeing as the CFC has previously owned up to all supercap losses as just that losses here.... I think your tinfoil hat may be a touch tight.
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Not on Eve-kill? Didn't happen!
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He has us right where he wanted us... by destroying his titan, CFC nullifies all the battles they have ever won, so now they have to log in all there super and self destruct them.. who knows maybe someone will remap the node in the last minute and stop them from all self destructing,,, comments? If you have any send them to RIGHTwhereTHEYwantUS@Fountain.cfc
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We do actually, In fact, we quite possibly have all of the baddest members outside of test....
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Poor guy. He probably just had wife aggro.
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I think the word you were looking for is "tales" but, yeah...
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Poor guy... he probably just got wife aggro.
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Can't find the kill on eve-kill or zkillboard, only on the goons and BL page... Lies!
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Witch hunts never end well and usually the innocent are the victims.I think when it comes to killing a spy, especially one in a super capital, you should definitely come up with more hard evidence other than 'looks suspicious'. Considering you can fake an IP address and more and more people are using dynamic IP addresses and proxies to log into VOIP, it is easy to setup someone to look like they are using the same IP address.
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is there a video of this? i love watching dds go off
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So Goons are the Lannisters? Then The Mittani must be tyrion, BOB is the Targaryeans, PL are dragons, which makes DurrHurrDurr Danaerys
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Christ, seriously. Our KB is the the ugliest in EVE.
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Hate to agree, but you are totally right. up"now...what if my ip cycles to Manfreds".....god thing i dont have a super...or a capital...:)
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I would laugh my ass off if this was the case...... its not hard to determine if an account access was hacked or not. And if so, its not hard to report it to the correct people to screw your life over for a video game.
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Neither does TEST
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Thank you! I am so sick of that retarded BoBspeak term.
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Your a fool, i suggest you get back to highsec and leave the serious thought to your betters, you clearly have no clue.
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LOL what is with that KB? it is terrible, maybe you should start a corp for GSF as well as a in coalition group to dedicate to rebuilding it, maybe get your US super pilots to do it as they have been left twiddling their thumbs of late :)Im sorry poor jest, i love you dont ban me again xxx
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Sorry maybe i dont understand but are each titan different in some way then? i mean i see a guy in lowsec who had a titan, he was in some random scrub corp, it must be his as he had one right? or are titans so rare each one is completely acounted for?And yeah the qoute thing looks badly done
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I dont understand the relevence of this linked kill, you mind sharing? obviously its the titan killing a shitty archon, but what else, or am i missing this being a noob?
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I can fake my IP, but aligning it with a random member of another alliance and hoping that somehow people will blame him for being a spai in random event is just too much tinfoil.
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Please sir not again, EN24 isn't nearly as good to post on, the clientele are somewhat lacking in intelligence, i get a lot better repsonse from here, plus its prettier at this site :)
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Read the comments on the kill. They're two years old, and the top one reads as follows:"Yaaah is confirmed as being an Alt of Manfred Sideous"
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Ahhh kk cheers big ears
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:) then what should we use? little brother alliance? servent? ally is pushing their little alliance a little above its station, they are a mediocre alliance with a very good FC, they lack the numbers to be a decent nullsec alliance, in their tz they are good but not great, they lack the numbers to be a major force, even (lol) TEST would beat these in a proper sustained fight.Infact people compare them to PL but that too is well above their station, i would compare them more to Shadow cartel or snuff, shit even D&D are on about a par with these.
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That made me lol :D
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Bannermen....
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Powers, I was replying to Dumbledores comment "but there's strong evidence that the allegation was planted by PL/BL", not the OP.
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-1 Titan for Pee ElGrath is secretly Raging: "if it wasn't for that pesky Bee El!!..."
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lol some1 is enjoying game of thrones :)
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3000000 (64.26%) damage exactly
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Do you need more evidence then a IP adress and name of Main and Spy ?Both matched, spy caught, spy terminated, job well done.
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Phreeze is a TMC staffer and independently confirmed the identity after the kill. Sorry, but "this site" is reporting reality, even if reality isn't one you appreciate.
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And how did you arrive at "The IP Story is a Fabrication"?
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Well, considering there hasn't been a massive "WAHHH WHY YOU SHOOT MY TITAN" thing from anyone in FA yet, I'd say this was Op success.I mean, if I wasn't a spy, and I were to suddenly have my giant space coffin killed by an allies, I'dve been sperging and complaining like crazy as soon as the dictor warped to the tower, not ctrl-QQ'ing.
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HAHAHA, oops.
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>Your> iYou're really helping your case.
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Fairy dust and space magic (just a guess).
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Don't pretend to be a network engineer. You are bad at it.
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Not a goons fan, but you have to admit, they have one of the best intell groups around. Metagame belongs to goons
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"oh yeay, spaii Titan is dead. Right now what? *looks at Heretic*"typical.
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Please sir, reality != propeganda
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where is the proof?just PUBLIC killboard comment? rofl
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wtf poor guy, hey man leave this shit coalition(called -A-) and join another alliance,Contact me if you want
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we know that Phreeze and the shitDinner coalition are your petfor that we support -DD-
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STOP STOP WRITING COMMENT GUYS OR THE GOONSWARM LEGION SPY NETWORK WILL SEE OUR IP HALP
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for curiosity who is the name of this main titan pilot in Fatal Ascension?
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confirming, our killboard is uglier than PIZZA's. And that's saying something
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Sir... There is no BoB
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Tonight we will be playing IP Bing from 7PM Est until 9PM.
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You can do better then this, please try harder
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Thing is the pubbies who read this will develop a conspiracy that we steal their ips and mask ourselves then get them killed by there blues.And just when people had forgotten about the sphere.
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Actually its another dead CFC Titan. I trust the killboard.
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Dynamic IPs aren't reshuffled as often as people think, or would like. Ask anyone whining to the abuse desk for a new one because they were banned from a forum or site. No, we're not going to help you circumvent an IP ban. Chances are they did it for a reason.
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How about vassal?
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Cheers, thanks for the reply.
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I think the best thing to come out of this happening was the Evenews site's try hard article attempting to accuse the goons of killing a blue that wasn't a spy because, "manny said the spy wasn't his character."
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"House carl".
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Is Jabberlon5 a Goon-hosted service that Digi has access to for his role, or is it covered by the Corps Diplomatique's blanket rule of fair and honest dealing towards all?
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More likely api registration. CFC mumble/forum/jabber registration happens through a website with API. One of the things you agree to in the goons/cfc(and any other smart alliance) 'omfg click I accept and gtfo my screen!' is a clause stating they can and will track your IP
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I've had dynamic IP addresses leased to me for over 6 months at a time. Combine that with timestamps and you can then see the general area of operation that IP is from. Get a match with a another IP from that geological area, spia confirmed. It's rather simple.
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and the cracks begin to show
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You are not hoping for it to align with some random enemy. You find out what one is, then prance around spoofing the exact same IP address. And nothing helps seal the deal than casually revealing your spoofed IP address to an enemy spy who thinks he just found a spy. The guy in his ranks with the same IP address you are faking.And then you get stuff like titans being killed by blues all the while claiming they just nailed a spy super.Fucking brilliant actually. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I...
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Its as good a reason as any!And yeah, RIP VR. D&D just aint the same without him :(
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As of 1 year ago:Goons = LannisterTEST = Highgarden-AAA- = Free Slave CitiesDOTBro = NorthmenFormer BOB = Golden CompanyPL = DorneVince / Elo = Walder Frey / Robb StarkWicked Princess = Whoever Robb Stark wife is, something with JIf Mittani is Tywin then somebody will shoot his bowels soon and start to shit gold.OOPS SPOILERS
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As much as I can't stand being on TS with DurrHurrDurr, having Danaerys ranting on like DurrHurrDurr would make for hilarious television.
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Yeah, but we're talking about PL, who actually does make that claim.
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Theres a guy on EVE24 (why do I read that spastic site, god help me) claiming to be the titan pilot and in fact he WAS a spy but in fact was spying on PL, not the other way around. Problem is, I have trouble believing mittens would authorize a *super* kill on one of his own spies (if not simply for the strategic value of a titan), which means that either (A) he was the dumbest "spy" around by failing to inform mittens or digi he was spying on PL and the kill was justified because hes too dumb to live, or (B) he's full of shit and thus deserved to die for bullshitting. (or (C) the dude on EVE24 is not actually the titan pilot)
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Reasons not to be a Titan / Super pilot in the CFC. They kill their own blues on the flimsiest of evidence.
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You can't fake an ip address. Maybe if you're on the same lan segment, and that is about it. I keep seeing people talking about faking IPs, but I haven't seen anyone even attempt to describe how it might be done, and I consider myself knowing a bit more about the workings of the intarwebz than the average script kiddie.
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Correct. It's pretty easy to confirm a spy given the amount of IP and timestamp information available to someone in a position of power. And you don't go around blasting blue titans unless you are damn sure.
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dunno, I guess if you knew an area where PL were waiting to ambush supers, tell the spy 'lets all jump there', and let them jump on their own.Presumably the spy wouldn't want to blow their cover by screaming 'don't shoot me, I'm on your side', and the other side would think it was just an evil goon trick anyway.It was more a funny idea than a fully worked out plan of attack.
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You can send one package with the spoofed ip, the server will reply to the original owner of the ip,and you will not be able to complete the "3 way handshake", and therefore unable to establish a tcp/ip connection.This means it's practically impossible to spoof an ip for for anything that require a tcp/ip connection, which is basically every service provided by servers connected to the internet.Exception would be protocols like icmp and to some extent udp, but i find it more then a little unlikely someone would be able to use either to impersonate someone else, besides how would they even know what ip to spoof?
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I dont get this we kicked him from Versatech for spying for the goons so not sure what happened there
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literally the aids

On Monday evening, the CFC destroyed a Fatal Ascension Leviathan Titan piloted by Yaaah; the CFC claims he was a Pandemic Legion spy run by Manfred Sidious, while Pandemic Legion has denied this accusation. 

The following report on the spyhunt comes from Lazarus Telraven, bloc FC of Goonswarm Federation:

Two weeks ago we found out through intel and IP matching that we had a spy in the Titanswarm user group in the CFC. This pilot was in FA and had HAVOC corporation in its history. The user's IP matched with Manfred Sidious’ IP of PL. We sat on the intel for about two weeks and then called for titans and supers to all login for an op tonight, and of course, the spy logged in and joined fleet.

We set up to headshot the spy Leviathan in a midpoint cyno, but the titan did not jump. Out of the entire fleet, it was the only one that did not jump. So I jumped into a covops on my alt and warp to the titan in B-D where it is still logged in and sitting inside of a Clan Shadow Wolf tower. That is not the corporation that the titan is in, so he cannot change pos passwords, looks suspicious, etc. Mittens batphones the leader of FA, Loquitur and I liase with him to set the pos password and to be prepared to offline the tower.

The password is set and I warp to the titan in a double bubble Heretic. The Leviathan logs off just after I land. Loquitor offlines the tower and bubbles go up on the Leviathan. Just after, fifty CFC supercaps jump in with around thirty Black Legion dictors/hictors and Talos. I gave the order to DD to make sure the Leviathan died and not disappear due to logging off and the first ~3 doomsdays kill him due to no hardeners being turned on. Then BL killed my hero heretic: RIP!

As is usually the case in a situation like this, there is immense controversy as to the identity of the spy. Phreeze, leader of the Dinner Squadron, has noted that the Titan in question used to be his. Allegedly, the character was sold to Manfred Sidious.  During the attack on the Leviathan, the alleged spy did not protest the attack or speak on Mumble when he was being attacked, logging off ingame abruptly before the assault after being the only capital in the fleet to fail to jump to the midpoint. Manfred Sidious and Yaaah both shared membership in HAVOC in their employment histories. We leave this for our readers to debate. 

Update: Apparently this is not the first time Yaaah has been accused of being a Manfred Sidious alt; a two-year-old comment on this killmail makes the same link.

Update 2: Phreeze has offered this public statement about his relationship with the titan and pilot.

The character Yaaah and the Leviathan were a corp titan char/titan formerly owned by myself and Darkst0rm of Insidious Existence. Formerly of RAZOR and EN GARDE, that corporation eventually merged into several different AAA corporations before they disbanded. I'm not aware of who took over the account after Darkst0rm left the game several years ago, other than the fact that is not myself nor Darkst0rm piloting that boat. Also, fuck goons.

CFC maintains that they got their man while PL continues to deny that the pilot belongs to Manfred Sidious.

Goonswarm Federation CEO, Space Tyrant. Likes yoga, Alaskan Malamutes, bacon, and delegation.