CFC Announces Caldari Ice Interdiction

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Will this drive the prices of other isotopes up? Say, might some people hungry for fuel blocks get a different sort of station that takes different fuel?
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-10 gank isn't tht too complicated? You can egg any where regardless of sec status. So jsut egg to where Freighter kicks out a few score destroyers to you and your buddies - for mass wave attack that nothing escapes. Remember unless recent criminal flag is active CONCORD and guns only shoot ships when you cross their path. Only new criminal flag makes CONCORD chase you down. Status -10 means nothing away from gates, stations and current location of CONCORD swarms. Exploit exploit exploit. CCP wants you to use CONCORD to protect yourself until you gank. Pirate activity is the CCP money machine. We buy the PLEX. Miners are just slow witted targets using the PLEX we buy nice PVP ships with to stay on EVE to be shot.
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When you know about it rising beforehand, and know about the announcement that will make it crash beforehand, hell yes.There is a good reason insider trading is punished heavily in real life.
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So um nitro's at like 900ish a unit right now, anyone know if its gonna go up again?
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i was gonna downvote this then i saw your title
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wtf is with this "jew" shit? are you some dumbass country bumpkin? I find most people who use "jew" as an insult either A.) have never met one, or B.) are lacking in decent genetic material of their own. Aside from having higher than avg IQ and education rates, Jewish people are also better represented in every major field of culture (art, science, politics, and entertainment). They also have higher avg income levels and life spans. So yea jews are kind of winning at this whole life thing. How are you goyishe, inbred, dumb fucks doing out in the midwest? are you white folks happy being 600 pound, pimple encrusted pachyderms? im gonna guess you're just a little jelly of my sweet genetic material....
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WarHighsecCFC
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There isnt really anything you can do to stop the gankers.
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While supplies last.
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^^^This man was on Goon comms at the time too : ).
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The price has already risen from cfc speculatora buying up stockpiles.
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no shit sherlock
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And what is this message?
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fuck highsec
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And that message would be? "We don't want fuel for our nullsec towers?"It's about getting enjoyment by griefing players with a different playstyle, nothing more. It's viable in EVE, so go ahead. But don't make it sound like some heroic mission to send a message...
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Recent tests have shown that the tears of "bleating pubbies" have high concentrations of melamine.Drink hearty.
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No, it really is to send a message. Specifically, fuck highsec.
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Step 1: Directors head to hubs and pick up lots of cheap NitropesStep 2: Inform the masses of your coalition that you'll be doing an ice interdictionStep 3: Profit from the work of your plebeians.When making isk is as easy as an unskilled Jita alt and access to coalition-wide Jabber pings, I think you've won Eve Online.
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making isk is as easy as parking an ishtar in a hub and going AFK, multiboxed 5 at a time. by that standard, half the CFC have won eve.
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more like we are the CFC look at how many idiots do exactly what we tell them to do
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More like, fuck Caldari Capitals, train for something useful.
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Though, parking an Ishtar in a hub requires learned skills.
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Yea, evil goonies to to watch out because Highsec is going to band together and thwart your nefarious deeds with the mighty Highsec bloc. Bigger than any cluster of fuckers!!!!!!
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this is true, a newbee like me has to do with whatever ratting ship that can be made from doctrine skills.Highsec mission runners make fun of me for how little isk I make.
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Parking an ishtar in front of rats makes ridiculously low isk compared to trade and market fuckery.To give you an idea, an individual trader can easily have 10B ready to invest, and will probably get a 100% return on investment, just by buying a ton of ice and selling it when it peaks. Easy money. Even less work than AFK farming. No risk involved. No skills needed.
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You mean someone else because it can't be you right?
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Yeah because the last thing you want in a PVP game designed for meta, is someone shooting spaceships in space and making things interesting. I hope you grow a fucking pair too, because the sound of your mangina sounds like whingeing to me.
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Can members of TEST dash themselves and their Catalysts against ice harvesters alongside you guys on the 18th?
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Number of times a Pilot has tried to rally highsec: HundredsNumber of times Highsec has attacked Null: Uhhhh....Not including Harry Forever. That guy has a spine and is adorable.
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"Somebody," but just not you, right?
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They won't. Tags are going to get goon rushed and consequently be stupid expensive.Which is okay, because we quite literally have the best space in the game to rat in.
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EFB :sigh:
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We GOT fuel for OUR NULLSEC towers. Did you miss the part about how Odyssey changed ice field availability?
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Oh, please, "someone" do it! (not you, of course)
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I'd be an Angry Mustache diving down on Marlona.
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Event not even started and the tears are raining like the scotish weather.
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but ties up your isk.10b with 100% return in 6 months? Heh, thats crap.
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Yes, because shooting people who either don't wanna be shot at, or even better, cant shoot back takes a large "pair."
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*facepalm* so many people with such short-sightedness...The CFC management is doing this purely for profit. Not only do they need to recoup lost isk from the war they just had to finance, but they also see the great potential in profits available because of the changes from the last expansion.It just so happens that CFC management knows they have a large population of mouth-breathing neckbeards that need to harass others to make themselves feel better.Its a win-win for Goon leadership.
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I wasn't mad until I read this. You're going down the mittani.
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I'm sure your plan to fight back against literal suicide gankers will work fantastically.
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We all know TEST can't afford catalysts.
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The only problem with that statement is that this is in fact a game about shooting internet spaceships.
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Thats why Caldari fuel blocks were 15k/unit this morning.I was wondering what was happening, nobody flies Wyvern/Chimera and only carebears use Caldari POSs...
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Use a procurer and orbit a can. You can get up to a 58k EHP tank with one of those.
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When it takes 6 tornados to gank a 30m Procurer (85k EHP when tank fit)... I think highsec is getting the last laugh.
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Judges take away a point.
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we don't need to gank procurers, this being highsec, there are PLENTY of untanked 200 mil hulks and mackinaws to kill with with out 3 million isk destroyers. if they swap to procurers en-mass, then their ability to extract ice is reduced, and null-ice becomes a larger portion.
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Guess the pre-Odyssey tope speculation isn't paying out like it should.
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I totally forgot, Highsec is full of cluesless noobs who don't read any EVE news and don't tank their ships.I always laugh when people say "nerf highsec into the ground so highsec carebears will move to lowsec!" Cause that'll never happen, they'll unsub and go to WOW before they go to lowsec...
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People seem to be mining in low/null it seems.That or people are still using their massive isotope reserves (I got half a million Hydrotopes and I can't even fly anything with a jump drive yet)
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Yes, because wardeccing all of the CFC alliances won't cost Highsec groups more money than the interdiction... and it won't just give the CFC an excuse to just go roaming through highsec targeting those groups, without any worry about CONCORD showing up.Highsec pilots' ability to defend themselves is limited to a reactive posture. Proactive vigilantism just gets you killed by CONCORD. Declaring war en masse just gives the people who are already showing up to shoot you the ability to do it w/out CONCORD interfering.
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I don't expect the vast majority of miners to do anything remotely sensible like protecting themselves. It doesn't matter how often we'll do ice interdictions or how many times we burn Jita, they'll just keep on doing the same damn thing because they don't know any better.
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Minor nitpick: The economy depended on Oxytopes moreso than it did on few other resources.This would mean the economy depended on Oxytopes less than almost everything else. I think what you wanted was 'depended on Oxytopes moreso than it did all but a few'.
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Every one in Eve has the ability to shoot back. Just because you don't know where the open fire button is or what it does doesn't mean it's not there.Also PVP game? People who don't wanna be shot shouldn't be playing a PVP game centred around PVP with large doses of PVP.
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Gank them first.
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Nothing brings together the English, Scottish and Irish like Germans. I fail to see the problem here.
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The official eve forums will feel their wrath!
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As long as we don't let in the Pictii.
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And your can makes an excellent warp in for the gank squad, yes, please do this.
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So your precious pvp ships mysteriously spawn somewhere where you can collect them for free then? Fully fit with modules?
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I call bs. I was a high sec miner. Resubbed and in local James315 agents said pay 10mil to mine or else. I went to low sec and joined a PvP alliance as a miner and now PvP more than mine. I Hate hisec. It actually scares me more than null or low to jump thru hisec gates. -10. Lived in null for 5months and went back to low sec where the love is.Also wow sucks.
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Count me in! I have an officer-fit missioning Vindicator, just point me at that swarm of Catalysts and I'll show them what's up!*funds a thousand fresh Catalysts with dropped mods**lives in highsec**is dumb*
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Its not a PVP game you twat, its a sandbox game where you can do what you want.
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they already got saved by the last patch, it looks like they are already got bored again.
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You are not every carebear in EVE.You are an exception.You are not one of the people who flies 5b officer fit Golems despite 10 of them getting ganked a year, and news articles being published about them. You are not one of the carebears that flies an untanked hulk during Hulkageddon.
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Not terribly hard to gank while -10
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And the other guy can also do what he wants, including blowing you up against your will.
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That still doesnt make it an pvp game does it?
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"Sandbox" and "PvP game" are compatible concepts. In this case you compete for the sand.
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Great, fuck those guys.
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Umm no.
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Problem is they are using ships that are worthless (as they expect to lose it to concord), so they'll just go get another.
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4/10, the ghostbusters joke saved it from complete irrelevance
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Uhhhm, yes. The fundamental premise of a true sandbox game is while there are widely disparate paths within the gameplay framework, you always run the risk of someone coming along and blasting the bits out of you REGARDLESS of your 'preferred mode of gameplay' - and in every other corner of this gameworld but highsec, that's considered an a priori assumption.
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real men get a 150% return on their isk.
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Piss where? I don't mine so you can piss into a strong wind errday for all I care. You forgot to include pubbies/tears/butthurt in your comment. Errday...
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Once again, the CFC abuses their dominant position in EVE in order to enrich themselves and make it impossible for the average EVE alliance/coalitions to unseat them.I'm a bit sad about this, to be honest. All great things need to die at some point, and I think it's about time for the CFC to experience the so-called glorious failcascade. Thoroughly. :\Oh well!
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Thus is the way of the carebear.
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All that passive aggressive crying must have made you famished so I got this bag of dicks for you to feast on.
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wow. again :-) too bad I was not realizing it fast enough. where´s the guy that always rambles on about cartels and RMT and such stuff ? tbh , why do the goons even need more moons when they can manipulate prices like that ? they dont even have to shoot one single barge and still the prizes spike...also i have to admit: although i dont like the ganking-aspect, its viable. what I would love to see more though is a JF- and trade route-interdiction. that is planning, spying and execution of JF space lanes and routes. oh wait, there´s skill and time investment and much more coordination involved. yeah, skip that. lets gank miners.
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i like the way you say "abuse" as if the game isn't catered towards the strong being ahead of the weak and being a total dicklord is encouraged.if you think this kind of behaviour is "abuse" then i think you're playing the wrong game, good sir.
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Nope. Risk 0. If you are in goonswarm finance squad. Because you buy the ice before the peak. Yeah buying now that it's publically announced would be risky (because you may not be able to sell before it goes back down). But if you bought it when it was at base price, you are pretty much assured you will be able to sell at the same price, or better.
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If 10B is all you have, yes. But when you grow richer, you need more and more investments to tie all your money up. And this one doesn't require that much work for the reward.
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Fool, everyone knows on the internet if you stick "uhmmmmm" in front of something that makes you right and them wrong. It's like proof you thought about it first, and that little sarcasm tinge it brings proves you are clever, and thus right. QED "mkay" "quoted for truth"Edit I forgot the smugness aspect 'cause every interweb twat that uses things like "uhmmmm", QFT, and mkay has in my experience always without fail been 100% wrong, but smug in the mistaken belief they have the faintest fucking clue as to what they are whittering on about.
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I will put this in my diary :D
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This. Last time I saw this attempt... 27th July, some dude rallied people on eve forums to go from highsec to mess up VFK-. One funny ass forum thread.
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I hear Blue Ice will be next after this event.
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Come have some fun in highsec. :) No ICE for miners sounds like a plan .....
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How did they get that dominant position? Through force of arms. Rather than being sad why don't you actually do something about it? Didn't they earn the right to abuse and manipulate by becoming the force they are? And its not like they are good, they are proud of being retards.
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And that counter force would be smeared across the stars.They do this shit precisely because they can, and they seem to have recently fought most of eve and won, so good luck with that.
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Awww! Aren't you sweet in your naivity, ignorance and limited understanding of how EVE actually works. You're such a cute little nubbin!A little education for you:1) In theory everyone in eve CAN shoot back, if they fit weapons or combat drones to their ships but in practice they can only shoot back with as much effect as if you had a fight with a gerbil. The gerbil can "hurt" you by biting but no one on the planet would bet on the gerbil winning the fight. You can fit guns to an industrial ship and drones to a mining ship but only a total failure would lose a fight to one.2) All the PvP in EVE is only possible because there are people that mine the materials used to make the ships and modules, people who make the ships and modules and people who ship them about to trade hubs to be sold. A lot of those people don't want to be shot at at all. Most of them don't want to be shot at whilst they're performing industrial actions. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be playing EVE. It means they don't want to be shot at. It means you can only play because they do what they do. If you didn't have such a limited and ignorant view you'd actually be glad they exist.EVE isn't a PVP game. It's a sandbox game. It's utterly coincidental that some of the people who exclusively PVP are under the delusion that it's purely a PVP game. It isn't, no matter how much you try to shoehorn every activity into a pvp example.
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Sounds like you're talking about yourself ;)
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Strange that we've just had the 11th annual alliance PVP tourament for you know shooting ships in space, but we have yet to begin the first annual mining tournament. Who can AFK the longest? That's gonna be fun to watch.As has already been pointed out PVP and sandbox are not mutually exclusive.I can play without other miners easily because - A I mine, refine, and manufacture myself. B Minerals can also be obtained ( in lesser amounts than mining ) by scrap metal processing of loot drops - which I can also do.All your condescension doesn't make you right, it makes you one of many clueless smug twats on the internet. But thanks for marking yourself up as such, makes arguing with you much easier.
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Ohhh ho ho ho you're sooo funny, that soooo clever, I wish I had a wit like yours, I could bludgeon people to death with it's razor sharp edge. Did you have help or was that all your own work? I hope you didn't have to pay a professional too much.
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Go to PVE server
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You should really figure out the meaning of things you quote prior to quoting them. You clearly don't have a decent grasp on what "mutually exclusive" and "sandbox" actually mean. The reason that PVP and sandbox aren't mutually exclusive is because PVP is one aspect of the sandbox. It's like saying that jam and doughnuts aren't mutually exclusive. Of course they're not because the doughnut has jam in it as well as dough. The sandbox has PVP in it as well as everything else. That doesn't make the game (aka the sandbox) PVP. That's like saying the doughnut contains jam so the doughnut IS jam. Pretty stupid really. A bit like your erroneous assertion that EVE IS PVP. Derp!As for your accusation that I'm a "clueless smug twat".... Way to go throwing random accusations around because you can't think of an actual point to make! Yay! You win the useless forum peon award!You say I'm condescending. I suppose I am a little but only in the way that everyone is when educating a child.
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Are you "Realist" then or "Nub" or tahdah! both ? Little bit of sockpuppeting on the side? Agreeing with yourself and forgetting to switch accounts? Ganging up on me all by yourself? Any other accounts you got you wanna bring in? I thought the in place for for the hipster sockpuppeteer to hang out and play shenanegins was wikipeidia?
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PVPShips shooting ships PVPMiners competing for ore and selling against other miners PVPTraders competing on the market PVPCompeting for oo sov PVPCompeting for llow sec dominance PVPCompeting to manufacture cheaper and get more profit than the competition PVPCompeting for rats and anomaly before someone else gets it PVPManufacturing, taking up public slots, PVPScamming PVPCompeting for players for your corp PVPWardecs PVPWardec assists PVPMercenaries PVPCorps,alliances, and confederations PVPISK PVPBounties PVPCompeting AGAINST other players for ANY RESOURCE in Eve sandbox = PVPEven buying off a NPC station can be PVP if there are limited resources to be bought, or the price varies as purchases are made. There is practically nothing you can do in Eve that doesn't affect someone else. I'm trying to think of just one example but I can't. Chatting maybe?OK got one - when CCP gives shit away for free on special occasions, that might not be PVP unless you try and sell it, or fly it, or do anything at all with it, at which point it becomes PVP again.
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i feel i must point out, i'm not a goon.
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Fountain, now controlled by CFC has Gallente ice. Deklein, long controlled by CFC has Caldari ice. Tribute, controlled by CFC since summer 2012, has Caldari ice.I think CFC has plenty of ice for their POS. And plenty to sell in Jita for as high a mark-up as possible.
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The point is not to make a "profit" blowing up barges, the point is to make ice prices rise so much that all of high sec cries. Besides, the point is to blow off a little steam after clearing out Fountain and before clearing out Delve.
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HEY
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Oh baby, the tears already flow.
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Grrr ebil goonies. You don't like Goons. We get it. It just chafes you so much in your most sensitive parts that we Goons don't open recruit.
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On the one hand, patch speculation is really a long-term investment. Many of the T1 cruisers and battlecruisers still haven't renormalized to current mineral prices. No surprise that ice stockpiles haven't run out yet.On the other hand, it is quite true that this will have the effect of draining down the nitro stocks, and furthermore resetting the price average. Selling into the price spike is nice, sure, but once the spike goes back down I do not expect to see the price return to its old levels. Instead it will sit at the highest price the market will support. (Consider that this was also the real point of the technetium cartel. It wasn't about creating artificial shortages, it was collaborating to reset the price as high as the market would support).
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Apparently you are unfamiliar with the GSF corp Bat country?And one of their pilots who leads the group named Miniluv?http://gents.eve-kill.net/?a=p...JF killing, they haz it.There are enough people to gank freighters and ice miners at the same time though.
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"You thick fuck." Wow! Yeah, your response is the epitome of wit and intelligence. /sarcasm. Tut tut. Anger is the last refuge of the pathetic.I accept that competition is part of PVP. I certainly wouldn't say it's everything though. Just because it is to you doesn't mean it has to be to other people. It's opinion, really. To me it's part competition, part social, part rush seeking.But PVP isn't everything in EVE.You saying that "We compete over EVERYTHING in the sandbox" is patently bollocks. I don't compete for the bounties I get from the rats in the missions that I do. I don't compete for the ore I mine to make my ships. There simply hasn't been an instance where I ran out of whatever ore it was I wanted to mine for a long time. I think the last time that happened was about 4 years ago."Player interaction drives every aspect of the game and affects every other player". Well, player interaction drives a lot of aspects of the game but not necessarily all. Also, player interaction doesn't necessary equate to player versus player. Some of the player interactions are co-operative and thus, by definition, not versus at all.You appear to be getting confused between opinion and fact. It is your opinion that EVE is entirely PVP. We'll leave aside for the moment that you're wrong. It is my opinion that it isn't. I can prove it isn't through example and logic. Your logic is very nearly complete but not complete. That's because EVE isn't ENTIRELY a pvp game. It's a sandbox with heavy PVP influences. The reason you're resorting to anger is because fanatical people who have an incorrect view of the world resort to anger because they run out of logical arguments and if they quit the argument they have to admit to themselves that they're wrong. So you continue to rant the same thing, getting more and more angry, because deep down under that layer of smug twattery you know that you are in fact flat out incorrect.I continue to argue my points with amusement and good humour simply because I'm right.
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We're still at it. Terror bears shooting up Goon space.
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The New Order welcomes goonfleet to Caldari space.Remember miners, if you do not purchase permits from both Miniluv and the New Order, you are still not in compliance, and will still have your mining equipment and pods impounded and destroyed.Do not be a criminal. Have your permits in order, and be sure to post your allegiance to both Miniluv and the New Order in your bios.Gallant pays his permit fees, and greets gankers warmly when they arrive, and considers joining them in honorable PvP. Goofus asplodes in a burst of antimatter, and then asplodes in local in a burst of tears.
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sounds like a stupid idea, guess goons running out of ideas if this is best they can come up with lol
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Isn't it glorious?

In the August 5th GSF CEO update, CFC leader The Mittani gave his troops two weeks off. We now know the plan for when they come back. They're going to interdict Caldari ice products.

From: directorbot@goonfleet.com/d6cf2e40 Subject: all-all Message: If you haven't been hanging out in Jabber and getting -all- the hints, we are officially rolling out into Caldari highsec for an ice interdiction beginning on or about August 18 and running for a month, give or take. 

For those who have never been on an ice interdiction, it is a madhouse of tears, laughs, broken promises, and lots of po-leece. Like most forms of highsec ganking, it is enjoyable to the certain flawed personality types that Goonswarm pilots commonly find themselves with. First-timers are very much welcome.

*** This was a broadcast from warr_akini to all-all at 2013-08-06 04:32:34.508037 EVE, replies are not monitored ***

Their target is the Caldari ice belts, which produce White Glaze, which in turn produces Nitrogen Isotopes, the fuel for Caldari and Guristas control towers as well as Caldari capitals and other fuel-using ships. The announcement saw Nitrope prices climb to a 90-day high.

This is the fourth ice interdiction that Goonswarm has been involved in running. The first ran for three months in 2011, focused on Gallente ice belts, and made headlines all over New Eden. In a dev blog published at the time, CCP credited the interdiction with causing a more than 100% increase in prices for related products and a 80% drop in Blue Ice trade volume. A small event focused on Caldari in 2012 running from February to May, spiking Nitrogen Isotopes briefly from 300isk/unit to over 1200isk/unit. The third, announced later in 2012, returned to Gallente space.

The first and third interdictions focused on Gallente ice because of the dependence of Eve on Oxygen Isotopes. They were the fuel for the most popular types of supercapitals, the Rorqual industrial ship, and for Gallente towers, which were the backbone of moon mineral reaction chains and thus of T2 production all across EVE. The economy depended on Oxytopes moreso than it did on few other resources.

CFC's motivation for focusing on Caldari ice belts this time around are not yet public. The firm grip the CFC holds on Nitrogen Isotopes' production in nullsec likely has a strong connection to this choice.

More from the CFC forums.

All CFC entities and Fweddit and whoever are invited to participate in the event.

What the Fuck is This?

This is an interdiction.

In short, we descend on highsec, amass a sizable stash of cheap T1 Catalysts to dump into ice miners, continue process until light is green*, belt is clean. With highsec ice supplies already choked by the Odyssey changes (depleting belts, not respawning but every four hours), cutting off supply to bleating pubbies will be significantly easier than before, even with the buffs that came to exhumers and barges way back. As supply is depleted, tears are harvested, and tope-hoarding jews get dolla. Since it's Nitro, anyone living in Guristas space with access to one of those belts gets nice dolla if they care to mine.

A lot of the new guys will have no idea that highsec is even a viably fun place. The truth is that it's one of the most entertaining parts of EVE if you're a ganker. Case in point, this kill had NC. corps at each others' throats for a good while. The tears you gather are simply wonderful. Most interestingly, judicious use of instawarps and warpins means you can continue ganking well past -5 security status and on down through -10.

(Image courtesy Gary Tekitsu.)

I am having a wonderful time.