CCP Secretly Gifted SOMER Blink Ishukone Scorpions

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One day CCP will learn, but it looks like today will not be that day.
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Can Mittens have those T2 BPOs yet?
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I find your optimism refreshing, if misplaced.
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I would unsub my accounts, but I have already.
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So long as they fly them. if not, then let the rage begin anew
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God FUCKING dammit, CCP...
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at this point it doesn't really surprise me
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I'm not really sure how they don't understand why shit like this a Bad Thing™
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*Yawn* Is EVE really that boring right now?
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I thought we got through this phase CCP? Please Stop It.
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lol Gaming company gets bullied by users
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Burn Jita? Did I hear someone say Burn Jita?
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Still waiting on James 315 getting a set of special catalysts, Mittens to get gifted a set of special bombers, and me to get some special isk doubling ships to give away as prizes. The 3 of us have done more for improving Eve than Somer ever will.
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I don't understand why them rewarding those who contribute so much to the community is such a terrible thing, this site for example is a huge contributor and would be up for such a nomination.
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while +1, i still hear the voice of an angry news anchor in the background and it just won't go away.
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Somer BoB™
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Unsub them AGAIN dammit! Otherwise, we might doubt your commitment to this issue.
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wait, what? you're reaching too far
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Goddamn it CCP, what are you doing?
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Tell me why should I care about CCP giving a ship to the richest people in EVE for helping the community so much.
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goonswarm federation , as the biggest content creator in eve online , should receieve like 20 - 30 trillions...and my self , being an enabler , like 2 or 3 trillions.what do you mean "no way" ?
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Sorry you're too stupid to get it :smith:
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CCP you are literally worse then HIV you are full blown AIDS..............
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except we would never get it, because Mittens didn't agree to the CCP community site requirements, which would prevent articles such as this one from running.To my knowlege, TMC hasn't gotten one isk from CCP
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Who cares? I can't imagine this group of 30 SOMER Blink employees isn't already filthy rich. 10-20bil is probably nothing to them and 300-600bil is nothing to their organization.
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Anybody who has been to an event with CCP knows they give out stuff left and right. So does War Gaming, so does Riot. This is not news. This is not comparable to the BoB scandal. Move along.
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I really hate to take a page from the Blizzard handbook, but if CCP wants to go willy-nilly handing out special ships to their bestest bros, they need to make those ships account bound.It'd at least reduce the "OMG rich" factor a tad.
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Hey Somer, we just realized we couldn't use you as a distributor of this last event because the community thought it would show undue favoritism towards an in-game for-profit organization... so instead here's 30 20bil ships. Bestest buddies, <3 CCP
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Still waitin' on Miniluv to recieve some special-version Machariels for bumpers and Brutix/Catalysts for gankers. C'mon CCP, Burn Jita was a thing.
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Every time. Every. Single. Time. I think at this point any issues of this caliber that arise should be headlined in the following format: CCP (insert fuck-up) Again (...)The "..." allows for further updates to the story. Because there's ALWAYS more shit coming down the pipes.
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Also, stop hiring back T20, TIA.
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How is this not comparable? They are giving away free shit to people in secrecy of significant value. This is just one leek who knows what else they could be giving away to somer for free.
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Certainly the most important point in this article is that Scorpion Ishukone Watch was pluralized as Scorpions Ishukone Watch. Good work.
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So, when does EVE-Bet get their free ships? EVE Radio? dotlan? The EDK team? The list goes on...Come on CCP, stop being so friggin' dumb.
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Seems like Somer is getting to much CCP favoritism. I don't see any other player run programs receiving anything from CCP. Including the people that actually run INGAME events where as Somer is nothing more that a giant scam to make Somer more isk. That's not even run within eve.
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Maybe they did and are smart enough to keep it quiet.
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How about because Somer is a FOR PROFIT organisation, and CCP seems to be adding to that profit, at no work or commitment from those from Somer.
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Go to any gaming con. You will come home with all sorts of free stuff. I've come home with free PLEX, ships, premium tanks, premium time, gold, skins, you name it. They hand shit out left and right. There was nothing secret about it, just because it wasn't publicly announced doesn't make it secret. CCP gives out stuff to community sites all the time. Should CCP announce they are handing out something every time they do? I can't believe how fast this article has blown up, it must have been broadcasted to all online CFC or something for this kind of "outrage."
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Right, I guess Boat should receive like 30 of these things himself for Asakai........
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That would be a gaming con. I don't think Somber Blink all went to the same gaming con that everybody else could.
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Have you come home with 600bil?
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True, but every member of the community has the opportunity to go to any gaming con, or special event. In this case the ONLY way to get these ships is to be a member of Somer. If that doesn't sound like favoritism then I don't know what does.
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lol mate , +rep
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Given that they're willing to publicly throw trillions of isk at somer, I don't see how a few hundred billion is surprising or even really worth mentioning.Edit: CCP publicly gave somer potentially trillions of isk and few people cared. The community has already determined that somer is unique and allowed to be given these things.
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if it wasnt for goons and some other big powerblocks i would never have touched this game. why dont they spawn us some t2 bpos.. you know for all the content the major powers are creating throughout eve. maybe trow in some special ships too? i mean you never know
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Your rare mistake only serves to highlight how refreshingly often you get things right.
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yep , i want a missile rifter , with targeting speed bonus !
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I would be ok with James 315 getting a special catalyst that doesn't cause GCC, or failing that a superbly agile and fast stabber,
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This is totally another T20 scandal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!jk this is worth like 600b at best compared to the priceless Guardian Vexors CCP had initially offered to somerHow about CCP stop this shit straight up, hire me a guy who yells his own name as consultant as to what is dumb as shit to do, and stop being bad?JEFFFFFFFFFFFFFFRAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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I love how Mahm, realizing how underhanded this giveaway from CCP was, warns his employees to be very careful with the Scorpions, and to keep them under their hat for as long as possible.
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Can we all become employees of Somer Blink?
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1) i wish you had have quit eve when you claimed to2) you're actually right the dude knows it's greasy as hell and gives instructions?!could be worse could be t2 bpos back in the day or could be you actually playing again which would suck dicks cuz you're a complete retard (poetic i mean) (retard)
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Obviously they wanted to be secretive because idiots like you would make a huge deal out of a company rewarding people who improve their video game with a few pretend items in that video game.
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I can't wait for the CCP apology. They apologized after the Gold Magnate. They'll apologize for this. Classic customer manipulation.The CSM will respond, and prove exactly how powerless they are as player representatives. It's too bad, really. It's not their fault. It's the low regard that CCP has for the CSM.
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That's called marketing, you know? That has nothing to do with charity or content creation.
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Players creating player content? That's kinda what you're supposed to do in a sandbox. There is no reason to reward people for doing what is pretty much the goal in eve...Goons get enough special treatment with the way csm votes get slanted due to the herd nullsec block voting.
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Are you fking kidding me?!
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The point isn't so much that SOMER hasn't done anything for the community, because sure they have. The point is that the community has also done a lot for SOMER, and they've done quite a bit for themselves. SOMER "employees" are not exactly volunteers, and are all paid a plex per month plus up to 125m an hour for the time they put in. Let's make something very plain here, NO other community site has been compensated so generously for turning such huge profits.Sponsorships are not philanthropy. They are advertising, and every time SOMER dumps a few billion into sponsoring an event, they are getting their name out there, attracting more of an audience for their service, and making a return on that money spent. And that's FINE! I don't mind seeing their logo occupying prime real estate in event announcements, promotions, and video feeds. They deserve it for sponsoring that shit. They do NOT deserve such lavish rewards direct from CCP, especially in this back room sort of manner, which tells me that while I thought the prizes they gave them to give out were just them not thinking clearly, this clearly shows they were perfectly aware that the average eve player probably shouldn't be aware of this.
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Marlona pls stop pretending people have something against Sumer. They have nothing against him, and you know it very well. It's completely irellevant the fact he or his emploayees did get the Scrops or whatever CCP did give them. It's all about CCP's hypochrisy and CSM siding with them in a attempt to cover the real face of this. It's not about WHO did get the pot. It's about HOW. Cribba did at least as much for this game. And he got no shit.
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What if CCP has oficially no ideea about those Scorps and the fact those were given?
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i guess much less ppl would complain if they would have got instead something in real life in the comparing value of the ship value based on the current plex prices, but i guess this would be way to much for CCP to give away in real
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valid
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I'm with Marlona on this one, Somer Blink's done too much good for the community not to be rewarded, for the commitment of all the events they've done all over New Eden, including countless sponsorships back and forth.. The staff of this organizer earned it tbfh.
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Reward them? Sure, fine, they've earned it.But reward them outside the sandbox, or in a way which does not interfere with the sandbox.And don't do it on the down-low, because it always comes out and makes them look like the shady fuckers they really are.
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You are right. There is clearly something wrong with the shady way they deal with this kind of stuff.
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It'd have been way cooler if CCP had sent each of them a collectors edition or some store merch IRL instead
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That would actually cost them money.
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If those events would happen or not without Somer is difficult to predict. But I suggest you look up the term "sponsoring". Buying visibility by sponsoring is one thing. Having your business pushed by the main force outside of the game, CCP, and now even having spawned rare ships for the own use - is something completely different.
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I was just discussing this earlier and I couldn't agree more. It would be the same as if SC did something say charity or some community event that benefits players. That's all well and good but I don't expect CCP to gift me a Federate Megathron for quote "being such a good guy."Let's be real here SOMER makes CCP a LOT of money in the form of GTC services and PLEX advertisements. Also lets not forget that gambling is addicting even in the form of isk.Such an addiction drives people to spend isk to win isk and people I would assume even buy PLEX to feed such an addiction. Let's just call a spade a spade here and say CCP's history from a GM granting BoB unfavorable advantage to past shady practices makes this whole issue reek.
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FUCKING AMEN TO THAT!!!! E-Uni your moronic nubheads ... the one and only entity in the game that has brought in more newbies than anybody else and is generating a tremendous amount of content both within and outside this horrible game of space pixels!E-Uni that features the most academic approach to EVEE-Uni that keeps an online library with lectures and videos/google docs for everyone to watch/listen.E-Uni that brings guests lecturers of tremendous caliber whose fame/achievements transcend this game.E-Uni that organizes lectures and on field classes for newbies to familiarize themselves with the game.As for the horrible argument of "if it wasn't for Sommer we wouldn't have Kil2 and Kovorix doing their thing" ... you sir fail on every level. They would have been sponsored by us... the players. As people like Guados are! Promoting the Alliance Tournament? Bitch plz... everybody in this game knows about the AT and Sommer's promotion doesn't reach those who do not already play EVE, who thus already know about the AT.I stand by my original position. SB have done nothing for this game at all... at least nothing more than your average player does. You know ... those poor fuckers who actually play the game...
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I think it's time for Internal Affairs to have a look at how Peter McKay runs his operation.Something smells a bit suspect.
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One can almost smell the jealousy oozing of the pores here. It's a game right?
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for companies/entities with the means, sponsorships (even charitable ones) are a lucrative marketing ploy and a part of doing business; they are NOT entirely altruistic, if at all. every event adds to their visibility and (hopefully) attracts new business.
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Blink is a lottery; not a charity. It makes sense they gain more money than they spend because they make profit on every single non-promo blink they do. If a national lottery sponsors a sports event they would logically be also looking for more profits.They don't need gifts to be rich as balls. And going all paranoid about all the things they may have gotten at some point isn't gonna help a thing, and is also ungrounded talks that should not be expressed until full proof of any of those possible gifts is uncovered. (To make the comparison; it's like blaming a murderer for multiple unexplained deaths that may or may not have been murders, on the grounds that he didn't seem to bothered having commit a murder)
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why is somer blink getting this shitton of free stuff. it is a gambling site that creates alot of content and fun, yes, but there are alot of other aspects also in eve that give a lot of content also and they get NO free stuff from CCP. Somer Blink is a gambling site, mainly createt to earn money. why all the incursion runners get no free stuff, why all the big mining carebear organizations in empire get nothing, why the block alliances get no free stuff for all their content ?maybe CCP should ask themself why supporting a ISK earning side only wih free stuff ?
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If CCP wants to give gifts out, they should be giving Game Time (not plex or isk or ships, but months or years of game time)
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Holy shit you love to suck off DOT bros. We get it, you're a fanboy.
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What should Chriba get then? Or makers of EVEmon and EFT? T133 titans with AOE DDs and some hookers too?Blink is for profit operation that is making insane amounts of isk. All the donations and stuff is just pure PR just like lotteries in RL. On top of the mad isk they are already making we have CCP giving away ships to them like there is no tomorrow. Compared that to effort people put in into AT and only people that end up in the finale get anything.So we have players who are getting rich running lottery getting even more free shit from CCP as compared to people who work their asses off in game. This gift is so large that it would easily cover the fountain, delve, querious and PB wars. Why bother doing anything in the game when you can cosy up to CCP and get mad isk for taking isk from bunch of players. This kind of shit from CCP diminishes all the actions and efforts by players in game!
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Send me 10 bil and I will send you 5 bil back .That is in effect what they are doing. All that sponsoring is tiny amount of their profits.
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Fucken good on them.. blink is a awesome sight and they have done a fair chunk to make it fun for all involed.. fuck the haters
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Because incursions and shit are organized by CCP soner blink is done by players for players.. if you want free shit organize something awesome for everyone and make a contribution to the eve community you cunt
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I am sad I only have one upvote to give to this. You are 1000% right, and I wish CCP would wise up and stop fucking stuff up
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EVE Uni does more - fact
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I take it you supported giving T2 BPO's to BOB as well back in the day.
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Where are EVE uni's unique ships?
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I would seriously take a look into the various charity's that the Bill and Melinda Gate's foundation supports before claiming them to be the worlds greatest philanthropists. (Hint: Donating billions for research into how to depopulate 95% of the planet so you don't have to share with the plebs does not make you a hero to the masses.)
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Goons have over 10,000 players. All the fleets, wars and events that their leadership organizes for them is content. It's actually the core content of what EVE is about. I don't think either Goons or Somer should be provided any rewards for what they do, but how can you say Somer Blink deserves rewards but Goons (or any other large group in EVE) doesn't?
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I'm having a hard time giving a shit about this one. Really a couple ships, providing a service to the player base for years. I'd be ok with this just as much as I would be ok with giving Chribba a specialized ship for the years of services he's provided the community.People need to lighten the fuck up.
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calling his remarks jealousy and telling him to leave, rather than actually engaging with his points, was an ad homonym attack
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I'm not, I'm simply stating its not that big a deal, its a shit ship worth what is really fuck all, people are just getting the hump because they are poor and the rich kids got a shiny toy as reward for creating a very good and very active fan site.The fact they make CCP a lot of money should help as well of course, but whats wrong with rewarding that? its no different then rewarding people that donate to a game in creation, like the other spaceship game that's name escapes me that's coming out soon (how fucking vague is that), i read that you throw them a few grand and they will name a planet after you, the amount of money blinks made for ccp through plex they should have jita renamed SOMER :)
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Well maybe a little harsh, but ok o/o/
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chibba got his own ship dude, but everything he does for people is for free, sommer on the other hand is a eve business and is run like one.... i have a problem
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Nicely put, both witty and insightful +1
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I can understand why CCP want to thank the people who support Somer, it's a great community service. However, they could have simply given them a plex like they do other community sites. I don't think anyone would have cared then. This really isn't about the people who work at Somer, this is about CCP having the emotional intelligence of a house brick.
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While they're at it, why don't they give PL leadership personal Revenants. Also in appreciation of the Fountain content and in anticipation of the Delve grind, CCP should have transferred Delve sov to CONDI with a magic wand.This is no different from that. Blink is one of many gambling organizations in eve. This is not just getting a competitive edge in their form of PvP, it's CCP saying "you already won, here's a pile of free stuff we're throwing at you". This is also not the organization getting shit to use on an organizational level. This is hand picked individuals getting free billions thrown at them.Also, I can't help but laugh at “one of the most awesome community sites we have". While I play myself, it's the furthest thing from. I've read random blogs that contribute more to my EvE experience.
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Idiot :)
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what i don't get is why that somer blink scam gets so much love by ccp.i mean there are much more usefull and important fansites out there,instead ccp is giving stuff to one of the largest scams in the history of eve(which frankly makes enough money to buy interesting prices anyways)I really don't get why blink is so much in favour of them, and not people like the evemaps or eve-kill guys.
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Sponsoring player events? uhm, you mean giving stuff that CCP can spawn for free?Or are you saying they put in real money? Which would mean they where buying their love from ccp.
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Its true, one of my old players got one for doing somer blink work..he showed me it..(he collects isk and send it back and forth for Blink) think he sold it however since it was to bling to actually field one.
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Maybe Somer generate real-money for CCP by selling PLEX?I wonder whether the giveaways are more to PLEX-selling sites than to fan-stimulating sites?
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goons also sponsors player events, should they all get ships too?
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you are spot on...It is exactly that "back room sort of manner" that I find distasteful... You can even see the Mahm dude knowing it would cause a stink with the "30 hitting the WTS forum at the same time would be weird..." comment.If it was all above board people wouldn't care...as it is, it stinks and CCP should have learnt the lesson years ago with T20.
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congrats ccp , it is now "messed up" i will not put a single cent more into this game, and im usually a dont give a crap kinda guy..not this friggin time , u really blew it this time
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"they don't need gifts to be rich as balls"So....?That makes it ok? CCP used the same argument with the Gold Magnate and Guardian Vexors "It is safe to say that they can buy anything that is for sale and money is no object" *Magical hand-waving
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There is quite a notable difference between Philanthropy and PR.Philanthropy may generate good PR, but Philanthropy for the sake of PR, well...isn't.
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You heard it here first folks. 600billion isk is worth 'fuck all'.Pieman should become a Philanthropist.
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there is no such thing in the fansite agreement.
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Well, blink is 'just a massive lotto fest' that is lucrative enough to operate forever!I know for a fact if Burn Jita was an isk-fountain like blink, you'd be seeing a lot less freighters daily.
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Burn the entire universe down.
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I honestly don't see why people are upset about CCP rewarding people they feel add value to the game or increase the revenue for CCP. Even though I don't see how I could end up on a list of people to be rewarded, I still think it's ok and I hope we are just seeing the beginning of a new trend. Knowing that if you make an effort to enhance the game experience for others or increase the revenue for CCP may get you nice surprise rewards from CCP if you do it well can cause even more people to spend time, effort and money on creating content outside of the normal gameplay. As long as it doesn't stay exclusive with Blink I think it's just fine. Drop a few Scorpions or some other not unique stuff to people like the Evemon and EFT creators, EOH Poker, Eve-Bet, Eve-Kill and so on. By doing that, CCP will set a standard that providing a popular and stable service will sooner or later get you a reward and recognition from CCP even if you make a profit from it.
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Idiot. See, that's an attack.Held back in grade 3 were you?
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once again we have the logical fallacy "ahderp dey have lots of iskies, dat makes diz k riiiite?"
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Are you like, really for real? SENTENCE MOTHERFUCKER, CAN YOU SPEAK IT?!?!?!?
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Sandbox.Dev-spawned goodies.Does not compute.
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Maybe CCP give expensive ships expecting they will be sold to fools, then shit-fit, then destroyed?ISK-sinks are good, right?
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They create excactly zero content. They sponsor events that would happen anyway, jump on bandwagons and put their logo everywhere, and enough retards think that Somer organized or created the event.
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Endoring gambling, let's what the regulations say about that. Shame on you CCP.
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so you are talking about ingame sponsoring with isk? nobody gives a flying fuck about this. hell i get ingame sponsoring everytime i request srf.
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There's a difference between marketing and philanthropy.
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Relativity young man, they have just reached a quadrillion isk given away, if they make just 10% profit (they make more ofc) then they have more isk then i have fingers for sure and certainly enough for 600 bill to be a trivial amount.
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He sponsored some events, events that would run anyway without Somer Blink and really are only for a minority. Compared to the big wars we have in nullsec, its nothing. We just had a war where 10's of thousands of people were involved.Its not really the point though, its how CCP has done this. Giving stuff to a player run organisation so they can profit from it, saying it was done badly then giving them more stuff. CCP marketing is run by an idiot repeating the mistakes of the past. This guy comes from a land of purple swords and unicorn pets, even then he rode on the coattails of other peoples success.
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Oh dear
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My only problem with this is the use of a role-playing item as a reward for events totally unconnected with the story-line of EVE.The significance of the one IW Scorp given out as a Live Event reward has been severely reduced by the handout of tens of other ships for non story reasons.It's brilliant that CCP are rewarding their community but ffs CCP use an asset that is implication-free!Let's not forget that the IW Scorp is a relic of the train wreck that was the Aurum store: there is no hull in-game with a more sordid past.Lol
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That was the last comment I made after I read a string of your nonsensical gibberish, then I see this gem.A paragraph without beginningEnd, or midYet inside golden wisdom is hidwho am I?
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You just don't get it, do you? Evidenced further by your attempt to use perceived age as an argument/insult (or what exactly were you trying to do there? Your english is terrible.) on the internet. Welcome to logical fallacy, old geezer.
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screw that. I've been playing the game for seven years, generating content in-game and affecting the eve universe for thousands of others. That's how Eve works, right? F*** your 300-600 bill and F*** this game! Somer blink is nothing but a slick con-game. I'm angry, and feel like quitting. Probably won't, as I have too much invested in this game - many many hundreds of hours. But jeesus this is a kick in the teeth!If they want to reward the community, then do it with T-Shirts and other giveaways, don't do it by giving people huge in game advantages..
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I stand with Marlona_Sky in defending SOMER Blink: those guys do fantastic work for us. My only criticism of SB is that it was very ill advised to request that the reward be kept secret. I hope that was not as a result of an instruction from CCP: that would be dark indeed
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Someone who gets it! This sandbox smells bad, like methane and other VOCs.
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SOMER Blink is a lottery, just like the National Lottery here in the UK, at its worst it's just a voluntary tax for people who are bad at maths. If this is what it appears then I believe SB fully deserve to be rewarded, not for making ISK (which is not a crime btw) but for the brilliant work they do for the community.
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Temporary boycotts where you just go and buy your plex anyway a week later mean fuck all, don't be dumb.If you want to boycott do it properly and lapse your subscription and keep it lapsed.
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I can see why you're in RA
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it isn't like Somer Blink is a non-profit group.... They have money and they honestly do not need rewarded from CCP for their work. They are rewarded with the profits and respect the community give them. Which to be honest, at the current rate, is falling damn fast.
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i'm going to run a fan site now! rofl
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incursions organized by ccp. i dont want to take away your illusions but everything in this game is mostly organized by players. ccp does little to nothing. and that is the way it should be.ccp shouldnt get involved in the sandbox.. t2 bpo anyone?
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You seem to have quite the hard on for me lex? please enlighten me as to why?You have responded to everyone of my posts with this little peach my favorite, i suggest you go back and read it all again a little slower, because half your retorts are just a angry splerg by a angry little man.And no grade 3 was a breeze it was year 6 i struggled in.
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oh dear another one.
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I think its you that fails to grasp it young man, i was merely pointing to a special ship being a better reward for those with lots of isk rather then more isk.
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No. What CCP really want is for the ships to be sold for ISK to fools, shit-fit and then blown up.ISK-sinks are good!
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CCP are well within their rights to do this in moderation to reward those who have gone above and beyond the call of duty in their eyes by giving to the community in paramount ways. It makes perfects sense to designate a specific model (or create a new one from scratch) for the express purpose of doling out such rewards. The fact that it does have a small impact on the game's economy is noteworthy, but frankly, Somer Blink has already had such an impact on EVE's markets that this is a drop of water in the ocean by comparison and not worth wasting CPU cycles over.The only complaint I've heard thus far that has any merit is the fact that there are in-character implications for the RP community... but I don't see that holding a whole lot of weight. Also, this particular model has already reached a status in the eyes of the EVE populous where it's an expected CCP reward. Creating a new model dedicated to the role now would just make more people mad for stupid reasons.
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Hehe for some reason you remind me of the suggestion that, in light of Harvard University's humongous endowment, it should not be considered as a university with an endowment, but as a hedge fund with a university attached.
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A choice excerpt.Creative ControlCCP reserves the unconditional rights to monitor the content of any works inspired by or based on the Properties and to take any steps necessary to ensure continuity and consistency of the EVE Online universe or any other intellectual property of CC.What this basicslly means is that CCP can shut a fansite down or end the partnership for any reason they see fit. That "at our discretion" clause is extremely dangerous for any fansite that becomes overly critical of CCP. You can see why mittens the lawyer chose to not agree to this.
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Ships mean nothing in the world of blob warfare. Its skills, good FC'ing and organization beat all space ships no matter how fluffy they appear to be.
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Chribba is paid for services rendered.
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Actually, a government-run lottery is most accurately described as a tax on stupidity.
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" SOMER "employees" are not exactly volunteers, and are all paid a plex per month plus up to 125m an hour for the time they put in." Guess that's why TMC has no writers
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after playing the game for 10 years with 3 accnts and not paying with GTC , where the f$^k is my gift ?i dont even know of somer and couldnt give a toss , them and goons and all the other names dropped have never affected or even appearred in my game , thus having never contributed s%^t to my "gaming experience" , i also dont see how running a gambeling site out of game is contributing to the gamers content ... from the start building up a character and building up ones wealth were "hard work", the introduction of GTC has diminished the effort and "work" the early players put in [which in my view was a much bigger contribution to the game in whole overall , as it funded the game to get where it is ] .I also wonder ,what is exactly the deffinition of "benefit to the game" when absolutely none of the entities named so far in this forum have had any influence in mine or most other players game... from the begining the debate over to "carebear or not to carebear" left some ppl less than privaliged when their ship was blown up , to others this seems as part of economics and does assist their game , the value of things ingame dont all have a monetary value some are based on time , others on experience , whats worth more ?what should be rewarded .. more? my personal opinion is the converting real cash to isk in any form ,whether the gtc or out of game gambeling sites are the grey area that should be cleaned up, or just cut out , i dont see the benefit to the game or players that multiboxxers buy ingame time with iskand spiral out of control, 'sanctioned' because it lines ccp`s wallet,.. i smell Bob and T2 bp`s again , i also smell goons ... they arent involved [yet] , but themittani knows enough to report on it ;Pit all smells of nerds with too much time on their hands ,forgetting this is a game for us to enjoy in our own style ,thank you ccp for tainitng the trust in you with a shade of black again may we all drown in our tears of white hot rage , and start up new "Star Citizen" accnts .
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i'm not googling erotica 1
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Lets see CCP handing out items in CCPS game, yep it clearly says right here in the rules CCP can do what ever the fuck they want to do at any time for any reason....i mean shit its not like there handing out free IWINBUTTON's i mean fuck all there a re-skinned BS. that as some point will not even be that rare when they add in re-skinning ships....
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Blink do have events IN GAME. Andrev regularly undocks in something that hundreds of people try to kill to win prizes. It's not a scam, it's obvious that the house will always win. They show the prices of tickets and the buyback price on all the micro lotteries. Anyone with half a brain can work out roughly how much they make off any given blink. I wonder how much they actually make though after paying their employees and all the promos, giveaways, sponsorships and events? More than I'll ever see and more than you'll ever see too I'm guessing
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This is the point I was trying to make on TMDC jabber. powers: somer's philanthropy is assumed to be charitable, when it is sponsorship.
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Burn Jita 1 & 2, the last 2 hulkageddons, any ice interdiction, any war they start.
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You got there before me. Good man.
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Nope, cut that racist bullshit out. I know you were being ironic, but save it for IRC.
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So basically a site that contributes massively to the eve community has been supported by CCP and you cry?? Yeah sure they make their profits but EVE is a player driven market in every aspect and they are employing marketing at its best. Just because you didn't get one doesn't mean you should bitch about it. Honest to god the amount of tears from people on eve is sometimes far too much.
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30 of these ships hitting the market at once would've killed their value. Is that why they were kept secret?
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wow, the fact that CCP does not realise it is not about the 'stats' of the ship, but rather the uniqueness has me baffled as to how they manage to do things like cook their own dinners and steadily breathe throughout the day
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An alliance once delivered a shitton of gameplay to a shitton of players.. A guy at CCP gave them some BPO's.. Funny how that turned out...SOMER might not be a PVP entity that gets an advantage, but they are a market entity that gets an advantage... Wonder how people would feel if CCP decided to say "Thank you Mittens for running goonswarm and getting people to our game. Here you go, 600B worth of ships, have fun"
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Paul Clavet and Guiding Hand Social Club have inspired thousands of players to lives of crime, which creates content for those involved on either side of that interaction.Fuzzworks and the teams behind EFT and Pyfa have helped tens of thousands of players not have to do tedious maths that I certainly know I would have never done by hand and thus helped keep retention up.AHARM and other wormhole outfits have put out a ton of info that has led players to get involved in wormholes.Goons have given hundreds of thousands of players over the years either an enemy or a group of friends with which to struggle for world dominance.I think any of these people or groups and many more have contributed more content to the game than SomerBLINK.
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It is CCP's property, they can give it to whom ever they wish. Go create a really great EVE fan site and get one yourself. Next non-story please.
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Doesn't that mean BoB deserved those BPO's back in the day because they were responsible for 95% of the content at that time aswell? Or are you just proud to be a hypocrit in this regard?
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I just have to say, i'm stunned there's actually a sane person with proper arguments posting something here, thank you.Codifying such gifts is indeed an excellent idea. Keeping it transparent without removing any and all lines between CCP and the community.
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For the record, at least during my time there, E-UNI never received any "free" adverts from CCP, although we were told we would receive it many times. The only advertising we got was purchased through E-ON, and even then we only got about half the adverts we paid for.If anything, the vast majority of contact with CCP (barring a few devs doing things in their free time) has been pretty hostile to the Uni itself.And so, I watch in fascination as CCP as a company repeatedly smashes its head into a wall.
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am i the only person that does not get bothered by this?
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Giving away a 10-20b isk ship as a "thank you" is a bit much for the average eve gamer to digest.. talk about overkill
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You also have to wonder who else is receiving or have received such under the table rewards from CCP?
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I think we are all forgetting something, in every one of blinks "party's" they pretty much give away more then those 30 scorps are worth. This time around its a titan, every ship that can dock ( no special edition ) alot of plex, alot of jf's, a station, alot of bpos.... thats what... 300-350b ( off the bonk alone ). the Minibonk is usually another 50-100b, so in 1 celebration thats, 350-450b, not including promos. If blink didnt do promo's and bonks ( i know bonks arent really "free" but for people who havent put isk on blink in years, it basically is ) id agree that thats wrong, but when they give away 50-75% of that every celebration ( been like 3 in the last week ) they dont exactly make a huge profit.
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You know that by going over 100 with percents you completely destroy their meaning?
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When you pull the "Fuck this, I'm out" button in dramatic fashion, then yes, you loose any credibility for talking about the game.
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You mistake me for Arydanika. I didn't burn any bridges when I announced I was quitting. And that's all I did, announced that I was quitting. If you equate that with a whole lot of drama, then so be it. If you have your personal issues with me, you'll see what you want to see.
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If you don't quit quietly you are drawing attention to it. So the argument for attention is valid.
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I didn't see goons wanking on about how unfair it was when a goon dev spawned himself a shit tonne of t2 BPOs.
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How is ISK changing hands from one player to another an ISK sink?
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Am I the only one who really doesn't care if CCP gives these out?
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Who generates "noise"? When is the last time Sommer garnered a mainstream media article? When was the last time someone looked at Sommer and said: wow, I gotta get myself into this game!
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Goons didn't fucking moan about the bpo handout from a dev. Whining bastards, go fuck yourself Mittani
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Plenty of folks deserving of gifts from CCP.But forget gifts, how about just a nod? What about all the people making sites like eve-central a reality, things people RELY on every single day? What do they get? Hurdles and red tape thrown in their path, and threats of TOS action.
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It sounds like it was Mahm that specifically asked for the secrecy, not CCP? While they didn't announce the giveaways in a forum post or anything, I don't feel particularly scandalized that they give stuff away to interesting player websites without announcing every one.Yes, it's a gambling website, and yes they make money doing it, but it's really a smart system, it's fun and ultimately harmless. I can't feel like I care that their staff got some token, if rare, slightly under-powered ships. They might seem like they get 'paid' but the reality is that they are still volunteering their time to not-play the game nor make real money, but instead run a fun, eve-related website.
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I can't use Blink due to another player on my network who does. I've tried to contact them multiple times to solve the issue with no response.Not only should content creators NOT be rewarded with in-game advantages, but I cannot even use the services they are being rewarded as content creators for.
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It's a shitty ship. If you care about this, you need to get a life.
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Here's the thing though, events like the AT have only become as massively popular as they are now largely through the help of SOMER Blink . This is not to denigrate the contributions of other members of the community, but next to eve poker there probably hasn't been any larger collection of ISK going to player and CCP sponsored events, ever.We shouldn't be surprised that CCP wants to reward these players. In fact CCP has been rewarding a LOT of community members lately, trying to get players to think outside the box, and participate in a larger community. This kind of thing is what makes newspapers, and makes subscriptions. As a business model, NOT rewarding that kind of customer dedication would be a bad idea.Lets not get wrapped up in the idea that this is somehow "unfair". Fair is a ridiculous concept, imagined by social engineers and has no place in the real world. SOMER Blink is reaping the rewards of a close relationship with CCP and a massive influence in the player base.
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The AT was insanely popular long before SOMER existed. The popularity this year had everything to do with CCP's partnership with Twitch, and nothing to do with SOMER. SOMER's audience is strictly Eve. We need not pretend that SOMER's support had anything to do with massive numbers of people watching the AT, in fact, I'm sure they benefited more from the AT than they benefited CCP.Also, where did I say anything about being fair? I made some points here, but the lack of fairness was not one of them.
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There is no controversy here.Move along.
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Wait."It's always been meant to be a promo item--for awards, rewards, charity-based efforts, promo items and more. "Maybe I'm misremembering here, but I'm quite sure this skin was "meant" for the nickle-and-dime-you-to-death NeX store.I'm disappointed, but unsurprised at this bold faced lie.
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You realize the bpo handout was to BoB, not goon, right?
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It kooks like gambling is very important part of EVE. I thought that the game by itself is important. If CCP gives rewards without posting that event something is wrong. I do not see why some player-own-organization should be rewarded for making isk.
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This is a hard one indeed. Giving out ships under the table is sure bad, but lets face it - they are tottaly worthless to someone else as a nerd.
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Ya, and it was Mulla Nasrudin that blew the whistle on that. Who CCP awarded with a perma ban from eve, for telling everyone that CCP was cheating in there own game by giving BoB the T2 BPO's; and never fired the Dev who did it, CCP t20. And you wonder why the players flip out even for something as small as giving worthless ships to Blink employees?
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CCP should not Gift anything this size in secret, especially if it affects the game in some way. I feel that the gift was legit, although the fashion in way the business was conducted was SHADY.
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im pretty sure this "alt" of mahm is a fake and i believe she us the one who was in Amarr being a Somer Blink imposter who was scamming amarr local but in a cruel way...
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Apples != Oranges
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"Moooom those guys got spaceships for free from ccp, do something!"
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Rich to do what exactly? Having unlimited fake money without time or opportunity to spend it is just as useless as collecting ships you can't fly. It's epeen, and only people obsessed with epeen find such things enviable. The kind of fun you can have with any game after "cheating" to unlimited monies isn't the same strata of fun.I can't imagine that Blink affords any "employee" of the corporation a Real Life of luxury playing MMOs 20 hours per day. From what I understand they are some of the busiest, most hard working station traders in the game. It's intriguing work in a morbid sort of way. If you think mining is a dull profession, spell checking names and clicking minuscule boxes inside that tiny contract window for literally hours on end must feel like *actual* work.Galactic Admin Assistants. Seems more like eating sand than playing in a sandbox. With the reward being the freedom to do more and more of it without the inconvenience of paying a subscription fee. Oh, and here's a present that will instantly identify you as a player of privilege and a shiny target. Y'all MMOers have some fucked up perspectives on idolatry. If you can stop wanting things because they're rare, and start wanting things because they improve your experience playing an actual game, then these IskScorps will be about as valuable as those damn Firetails. A paint job and a prefix worth 10 billion? Fuck me. Next week CCP seeds a million of them and throws up middle fingers to the whole shenanigans.
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booohoo, the ship is garbage.. anyone who wants to spend 20-30 bil on one deserves to get ripped off... its a promo item, plenty more will come into the game

To thank them for running “one of the most awesome community sites we have" CCP Navigator apparently furnished SOMER Blink’s employees with approximately thirty of the special edition Scorpions Ishukone Watch this August.

In a leaked Evemail dated August 20 2013, Autumnries Mahm announces that they will be providing CCP with a list of employees “and each one will be receiving an Ishukone Watch Scorpion of their own, direct from CCP. I don't know exactly how they appear, I think they will go to your redemption system.” Autumnries Mahm is an alt of Somerset Mahm, who own and runs SOMER Blink. The revelation comes from a player who claims that as a SOMER Blink employee they were a recipient of one of the ships.

SOMER Blink is a player-run gambling site, featuring micro lotteries where players buy tickets for a chance to win valuable ships and other in-game assets. The tickets are bought with ISK that players have deposited in the system either directly, or as a result of bonuses that SOMER Blink offers to players who purchase EVE Game Time Codes through SOMER Blink’s affiliate program. By all accounts, a massive amount of ISK has passed through the system, with the site recently celebrating 1 quadrillion in ISK prizes won by players.

In an email exchange with TMC staff, SOMER Blink second in command Andrev Nox seems to confirm that the leaked mail is real. “CCP has been using the Ishukone Scorpions for community site rewards and ingame event giveaways for a while now, with Blink being neither the first nor the last in that program,“ he writes.

The special edition battleships are not available to manufacture and are rarely given out by CCP. Eighty-one were given away at FanFest as part of the Charity Poker Tournament and PvP Tournament and added to the game as part of the Odyssey expansion. Another was given out as part of a role-playing event and SOMER Blink was given ten to use as rewards. To date, there have been no other public giveaways of the ship, meaning that SOMER Blink employees' private rewards may account for a quarter of the Scorpions Ishukone Watch in the game. The ships tend to sell for 10-20 billion ISK meaning that the gift was worth 300-600 billion ISK.

The revelations come on the heels of another controversy surrounding SOMER Blink’s close relationship with CCP. In September, CCP announced and then walked back plans to reintroduce the Golden Magnate ship to the game via a giveaway on SOMER Blink’s site. Previously, only one Golden Magnate had ever been created (it was subsequently destroyed). They similarly had to cancel plans to offer new Guardian Vexors, another limited edition ship rarely seen in game.

To date, CCP has not responded to a request for comment. This revelation took place on a Friday evening, and neither of the CCP PR staff we contacted have been able to reply. The CSM has also not yet responded to a request for comment. We will update when they do. We have been unable to confirm Nox's claim that other community sites have also been recipients of Ishukune Scorpions.

CCP’s uneasy relationship with the line between engaging with the playerbase and offering unfair favouritism is well known. While CCP has offered perks like free advertising to groups like E-Uni or RvB and free fan accounts to official fansites, the size of this gift is unprecedented - so far as we know.

In light of that, perhaps the most troubling aspect of this SOMER Blink evemail is the call for secrecy on the part of the lucky recipients.

“Please do not immediately run to the forums and WTS the ship, 30 of them appearing all at once would be weird,” writes Mahm, “This is a really unique thing CCP is doing that doesn't directly map to anything they have done in the past, and we don't want to mess up that future relationship-- Navigator has already offered to help promote our events in the future.”

Approximately one month later, the controversy over the Vegas giveaways erupted.

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Update: CCP Manifest has gotten back to us with an official comment: 

We did end up giving Ishukone Ships away to SOMER's people as a "thanks" (as per the email) in a similar manner to our previous issuances of the ship. It's always been meant to be a promo item--for awards, rewards, charity-based efforts, promo items and more. The IshScorp was never meant to be limited at all or "capped" at a certain number--hence why it only refines for 1 Trit and is worse gameplay-wise than the normal Scorpion. There will be more given out in the future by the comm team and others (I will likely give out some some via social and through PR) and I am sure the price will go down--kinda like the pirate noobie frigs we gave out at events.

The core of the controversy does not appear to be the value of the IshScorp itself - it is an inferior ship statistically - but the nonpublic nature of the giveaways. 

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