Breaking: Massive Supercapital Fight in 4M-QXK

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death to all supercaps
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Why are people still propping up the bloated corpse that is Red Alliance? For all their talk of ~elite pvp~ NC. and PL seem to have picked the worst entities in the game to support
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Everyone seems to like dead supers. Well, except for the alliance and pilots that lose the supers.
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I see the rumours that NC. and co, are just HBC pets are true then?Daddy PL is using them as bait
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because..fuck -a- and their allies
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why? if red could do anything by themself nc. and pl wouldnt get a part of these goofites so win for everyone
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From the scene, Grath Telkin of PL offers this report:Now back to Shadoo at the studio,
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I know sometimes it's difficult to grasp the ever-changing nullsec entity relationships but come on, at least make an *attempt* to try and understand them before you barf your ignorant opinion all over the place.For all intents and purposes, the HBC has no working relationship with NC., PL do. I'm pretty sure I don't need to mention that PL have a far larger history then the HBC/TEST does. They have their own grudges/relationships/agendas separate to any official HBC ones.I'm sure you are happy to remain completely oblivious to how politics in EVE actually work, but the major forces behind the "master/pet" relationships are basically dead. It's time you found another meme to shit on entities you don't like.
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I didnt notice any -A- on the brdoc, should I look closer or are they not standing strong with their staunchest ally?
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You can say whatever you want, but SOLAR has gonads.
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-A- wont undock because their (former) main PVP corp would be shooting them in the face :)
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RA provide excellent bait, even when it totaly unintentionally. Who else will whelp super after super after super after super, without ever learning, careing and just keep whelping. In almost all fights they start they end up getting their entire fleets massacred and whiped out(tho usually its because they rarly communicate before things start to go very badly for them) so basicly any emergency pings will go out around 2min before the last RA ship on the field is killed:P When I work with people I usually atleast have a hour to work things out, but with RA(thats "above my paygrade") it always seems to be scramble a fleet out to help the last dying russian, stuck surrounded by hoards of mad russians in the backwaters of eve , atleast 5-6 cynos away (which they never can help you with).
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You got most of it right, but you're forgetting the primary mission: we're only in the HBC to leech good pilots from them. Once we can field a significant subcap fleet of our own again, we'll be out of the HBC and back on the road again as mercenaries again.
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HAHAHA that's the most accurate and hilarious description of RA fleet ops I've ever seen, well done sir!
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Please, they had crap intel that they wouldn't be counterdropped. Don't mistake bravery for stupidity.
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NCDOT has about the same number of supercaps as PL has.
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Because Red Alliance are cool duders.
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"For all intents and purposes, the HBC has no working relationship with NC."the original honeybadger was PL, TEST and NCdot.
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-a- shit dead? thats what they deserve for pissing theyr allies off... best pew corps left... and pl took tropa de shit win 4 all
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I highly doubt ncdot have as many supers as PL does, aparently PL did a supers asset count recently and found out they had 83 Titans and 202 Supercarriers. However I dont know if this was counted before or after BOPE and BUSA joined so potentially they could have even more now
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Come again?
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A much smaller proportion would be how many they can actually use since supers are often perma-logged bittervet toys. Still I'd say that PL easily has the biggest super fleet and also is way more willing to use them in combat compared to almost any other alliance. Ncdot recently lost quite a few super pilots when the autz corps left and they tend to be more conservative with them.
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It was actually 93 titans and 202 supers, and those had all been active in the past 30 days, our paper numbers are actually higher than that, but about 20 titans and nearly 40 supers (pushing our numbers to just below 400) but the 93/202 are actually all active.BOPE and BUSA effectively will add about 40 total to our numbers.
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You must not pay attention to much of anything going on. PL has been going headlong into fights vs solar and others (often outnumbered) with some triage support. Not to mention today's brawl lost I think 90 rokhs?

Supercapital fight in progress: SOLAR has lost at least three Nyxes to a combined force of Pandemic Legion, Red Alliance, and NCdot in 4M-QXK in Insmother. Red Alliance initiated the fight with SOLAR at a SOLAR tower; SOLAR escalated against RA, who then called in help from its allies Pandemic Legion and Northern Coalitiondot. Apparently PL dropped on ~30 Solar supercapitals at a POS; SOLAR supers tried to escape into the shields and the SOLAR Loki support fleet was driven off, but not before at least three SOLAR Nyxes were destroyed. At the time of writing, SOLAR forces are either trapped in their POS under hictor bubbles or have found a way to escape. 

From the scene, Grath Telkin of PL offers this report:

SOLAR tower comes out, they cyno in a 100 man loki fleet, triage, and a few supers; RA sees it, drops supers and titans and hellcats on that, and gets [obliterated] as SOLAR escelates with more and more supers - but RA manages to hold the field long enough for us (PL/NCdot) to get here

RA strapped on a hefty set of balls and set a few titans and supers on this SOLAR tower with their dreads; SOLAR dropped in on that with their active super fleet, whch RA bubbled, and then called us, then called Vince (NCdot), usual results from there: dead bodies everywhere.

We dropped in right on top of about 30 SOLAR Supers, and started burning through Nyxes; the first one got in POS shields as he entered structure - the next 3 weren't so lucky.  All but six have evac'd the tower thats about to die, 6 left under hic bubbles right now, pos being rape caged, RA and NCdot working with us.

RA appears to have suffered some casualties as well, with reports of one Red Alliance Titan being saved at only 5% armor.

The initial battle report can be found here as killboards sync.

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