Blood Spilled Over IRC CSAA

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This battle was amazing... One of the better ones we've seen.It's not every day that CFC wins the isk war but loses the strategic objective. Kudos to the NC Bloc for pulling this off. I'm not sure if it will matter in the end as the reinforce was at a bad timer, but we will see again in less than 48 hours.kudos to everyone for good fights... Even blobs can be amazing.
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Just to be semantic, I'd argue that the "tactical" victory is to the IRC/S2N/NC. guys as it's a short term victory, whereas the "strategic" victory (if there is one) would go to the CFC if you believe the damage they inflicted wasn't worth saving the tower.Tactical = short termStrategic = long term
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Its a hard sell to say IRC won the strategic victory when they lost 11 dreads and 20 carriers along with entire subcap fleets.The only thing they did was delay the eventual.
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Ugh I missed it. The IRC CSAA fights are some of the best fights I've been a part of!
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IRC are fucking heroes, always bringing a brawl. Love 'em.
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Nice BR. Was lots of fun and would x up again. Glad to see Makalu there keeping his personal kb green.
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Death to blobs!!! Not!!!..looks like this was an epic fight....I wish i had been there...
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We had 2 battleships fleet one alphafleet the 2nd was half abaddons half oracles, roughly 550-600 dudes before reinforcements/reships during the fight. And we knew that they were repping the tower we didnt care. We were more concerned killing the tackled caps.
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Short Term: the fight.Long Term: The day after the fight.The CFC was aware the tower was getting repaired; sometimes there's just too much other shit to shoot. We were not going to let the carriers get away. It was 1 alphafleet, 1 drakefleet, a good number of an abaddon fleet, and bombers for a 450 v 650 fight, which sounds about right as local never got far above 1,100. The fight was bloody as all hell and a great deal of fun.P.S. The NCdot sniper Rohks had 3 excellently placed hictor bubbles, preventing bomber warp ins. It was a beautiful arrangement, on their part.
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inevitable*
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I wish I hadn't read this. I had planned to go on this fleet, but I was exhausted from a previous night of having to go in to work unscheduled and missed it. Hmm, wonder if I should call off tomorrow for the rematch.
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The Tactical Advantage, or as you would call 'short term', was the CFC victory over the IRC fleet. However, the Strategic Victory, which would have been the destruction of the IRC super and therefor 'long term', was not met and therefor goes to IRC for successfully re-stronting the tower.
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They defended the CSAA wich is a strategic objective given its importance (same as one would call industrial complexes in normal wars), but CFC won the battle.Anyway in the end we all won as pvp happened.
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Exploding ships = good
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Never game over RL.... with that said, I slept only 3 hours today and have a meeting with some clients lol
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not a terrible battle report, but there are some things you have just plain wrong.1. "unbeknownst to CFC fleet commanders" We heard our FC out loud on comms discussing going to kill the carriers repping the tower, decided to stay on field instead.2. your rokhs withdrew just in time for IRC to die....how quaint! You missed the part where the CFC reinforcing fleet was coming in at the same time (70+ drakes to finish breaking the carriers)3. "dying one by one" and "mopping up the remaining carriers" seems like such light language. It was a massacre. Pure and simple. Those poor fools thought they were going to be heroes.4. "strategic victory" The tower was rep'd, at the cost of 150b isk in ships. And now it's re-reinforced. So....was it a Nyx or an Erebus you just burned 150b over? I have a feeling we'll be back, gonna call another lvl 5 cta IRC??? Plz do, that was SO MUCH FUN!Turkey shoots usually are.
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Great fight! Glad the Maelstrom cache is being worn down so we can put more Rokhs in the field... for you know, it haven't brakes.
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Tactics and strategy nest, with each strategy being tactical in the context of a larger strategic concern, sometimes many levels deep. So arguing over the terms is always happening and almost never helpful.But it was an amazing fight, whatever the political/economic result. My personal objective in playing this game is to have fun, and that objective was met. Thank you CFC for showing up in strength, and thank you Nulli, NCdot, Retirement Club, Rogue and others for throwing your ships in with us. Really glad I re-engaged with the game in time to participate.Oh, and great report, Kitt_JT
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Dude, we had fun, you had fun. We lost a shitton of hulls, and you guys bled, too. Why are you angry?See you at the next one (if we both manage to be awake then).
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IS THERE a video on this in the perspective of the goons, I want to see a video about it because i haven't seen a video of cfc owning another fleet before and this time they killed tons of caps too =) may i see please please plase???
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I still have vacation days to use though.
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Stop embarrassing yourself.
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with the hearts of lions!
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The beautiful thing about CSAA's, every time you reinforce them, you are literally guaranteed another fight.
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lol couldn't spell inevitable - lol
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This fight was a ton of fun for the Drakefleet as we lost only a few (less than 15) ships thanks to the 8 hero Logi pilots. IRC + friends may have prevented the abortion of whatever super was under construction, but they paid a heavy price, more than any single super is worth.
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The good news is that Nuli didn't have to jump them home!
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Our sniper Rokh fleet was FC'd by Progodlegend (Nulli). The ROGUE sniper fleet was warned not to sit clumped up, but it was too late. When the bombers appeared all we could do from our floating perch was to silently watch our allies get eviscerated by bombs.
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But all supers must die. Where's the meatgrinder, if not a 10% TiDi system with more than 1200 capitals and heavy subcaps in local?
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the dotbros were a significant part of this fight wtf are you high on
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How exactly did this prove how IRC have more balls than dotbros? also the term of dotbros are stupid, its only NC. as got a dot in their name or ticker :/
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5 alliances vs 16 and to hold the field as long as we did, I feel pretty good about that. Must say this is the most organised I have seen a CSAA defence within IRC since I have joined it. A few mistakes were made and a few lessons were learned as always. 'til next time.
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Heh, was good while it lasted... as did my first scorp for 2 SOLID HOURS of initial engagement, this second one was just to get guys out http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_de.... All and all, was EPIC, if only CFC knew how to keep local clean :)))
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dont do math just shoot and reship it makes it less sad lol still was worth losing the 2 zealots and itty
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yeah nulli is a big help... i like cobalt edge we have a big advantage. now if cfc did not have so many we would of won that fight in isk too see you guys at 3 am tho
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did nulli lose them all :(?
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well think about it like this DORBROS are bros of NC. so it kinda makes since
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If your not in a corp thats already in one of the allainces join up and kill stuff
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cant wait tell you guys get here i hope its another big one
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call it off dude worth it
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well if we do end up losing the csaa we will do it to the very last ship (is irc)
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at least ROGUE showed up. proud of them guys.
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"Overall we weren't very combat effective with that level of TiDi. [It] was a lot of fun :) always love getting to use my dreads."Man, if more people had this attitude this would be the best fucking game ever.
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LOL CFC are so fucking bad ! Can't save there CSAA's can't kill other Alliances CSAA's . But I love the spin of how you guys still won a prizefor ( tactical victory) . Seems being in CFC is like being in a spastic school Awarding mediocrity to keep the plebs from knowing they are a failure.
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yeah its how i am. tidi was so bad but fight was so fun
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Nice to see a change from the usual "They killed a lot of our ships and that makes them MASSIVE CHEATING FAGGOTS BLOBLOBLOB" that EVE FC's seem to love.
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It looked no better from the position of the ahac fleet. Since their fleet range was similar to yours they would have done much better sat among the rokhs even if their targets were different.
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One line "formula" comments = bad.....wait a minute
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I just want to say TY to all of our allies who came. I got called into work just as the fight was about to begin and missed it :( I cant wait to see the video of it.
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Entire subcap fleets? The majority of S2N/NC. Rokh fleet lived.Oh and you might want to look for "EVENTUAL" in dictionary.
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So perhaps next time write your own goddamned report and submit it to themittani.com?Can't you just be happy puppy as we provided you some content?
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I take this was more for the fight. With 900 Titans in the game, who cares about 1 more...
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how can it be bias towards IRC? , it's mittani's site!
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its pretty much the same as how some shit site refers to the cfc as dekco..
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The IRC CSAA LIVES!! , what happened to killing it?
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I do believe it is now dead.
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Hey, porn in local gives you something to do while cycling your guns

SETUP

The CFC recently got intel that there was an IRC Erebus in build (which is of course unconfirmed by IRC) in Q-VTWJ. The tower was reinforced, and the stage was set for the battle that took place Tuesday evening.

IRC called for the help of their allies in Northern Coalition (NC.) and Nulli Secunda (S2N), who responded in support of their allies. The defenders were in system first, with approximately 500 in system consisting of 80 armour HAC's, 80 Rokhs, 25 3rd tier battlecruisers, 15 blap-dreadnoughts, and 20 Slowcat sentry carriers.

The CFC was able to field 700 strong with one full 'alpha' fleet, 50 Abaddons, 40 pulse-fit Oracles, and a 100 man Drake fleet.

Like every proper CSAA system, Q-V is a dead end system so everything must come through a single heavily-camped gate. IRC and co. set up on the gate and waited for the CFC to come to them. CFC bombers had great success against the IRC 3rd tier fleet, all but eliminating their ranks.

Defenders set up on the gate

THROUGH THE GATE OF DEATH

Finally, the CFC jumped through the gate of death into the waiting arms of battle-hungry fleet. Heavy fighting ensued at 10% TiDi as the defending fleet started burning through Maelstroms, and the CFC went straight for Nulli’s sieged dreadnoughts. Usually, battleships standing up to a fleet of sieged blap-dreads results in a dead battleship fleet; however with 10% TiDi and over 50 scimitars, reps held on a number of CFC battleships as they burned down the dreadnoughts. The blap-dread fleet commander Canaris Roshaak comments:

With 2 BS fleets we were going through 2 dreads at a time, getting taken down in 3-5 volleys. Even though we refit max tank and overheated, [you] can't hold reps very long. After they killed most of the dreads they swapped primaries to something else, so we managed to get a few dreads and carriers out.

Overall we weren't very combat effective with that level of TiDi. [It] was a lot of fun :) always love getting to use my dreads.

Even with Nulli bleeding dreadnoughts, they were able to burn through Maelstroms quickly with coordinated fire from the remaining dreadnoughts, the Rokh fleet, the slowcats, and the armour HAC's.

Defending capitals take a beating versus the 700-man CFC fleet

DREADS DOWN, FIGHT STILL RAGING

The CFC fleets turned their sights to the armour HAC's and succeeded in wiping out a surprising portion of them, though not without cost. The CFC had lost nearly 90 battleships, and there was still a functional Nulli/NC. Rokh-Fleet on grid in addition to the IRC slowcats. With such a large number of logistics in 10% TiDi, the defending fleets were unable to break through CFC reps and began withdrawing. Unbeknownst to the CFC commanders however, the CSAA tower had been repaired nearly to 50%, and could almost be re-stronted.

The Rokhs withdrew with minimal losses as an IRC battleship fleet landed on grid... and died horribly. With the battleships dispatched, the CFC fleet started bearing down on the IRC carriers. Initially having problems breaking the strong RR tank of the carriers, they bought enough time for IRC to re-stront the tower. This was not without sacrifice as the carriers' reps started slipping, and they began dying one by one.

After mopping up the remaining carriers, the CFC fleet reinforced the tower again. The tower is now scheduled to come out of reinforce on Thursday morning in AUTZ and both sides intend to dance again.

In the end, the strategic victory goes to the defending IRC/S2N/NC. fleets, who saved the tower at great cost. The tactical victory goes to the CFC, who will have to wait another day before trying to abort a suspected titan.

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I have been playing EVE since late 2006, with a preference for nullsec warfare. I am currently a member of Nulli Secunda. In real life, I started a career as a pilot in 2007, and many of my articles discuss both flying, and EVE Online.