Battle in 1-SMEB, Round Two: The Report

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i wonder if test realise that with fights like this every few days we're never going to leave. awesome write up.
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"The panicked invasion talk ... "I am watching SBU from CONDI in Fountain right now. It is for the good fights right?
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tl;dr we came, we saw, we dunked. test still mad, tribe still bad, goons/nc/pl bropact still rad.
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You so bad
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The alternative is what, TEST loses space and people just get bored and walk away?
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An SBU in Fountain does not an Invasion make...Not even sure you'll get GF's out of it..
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Sorry bro, but nothing was dunked. Actually, nothing of value was lost. Insurance covered the T1 BSes and renter fueled reimbursements covered everything else.In fact in the past two battles, I have only lost two Rokhs I was going to self destruct for insurance tomorrow anyway. :)
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No gudfites to be had in Fountain. Only renters there, oh and the European J4Gs.
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TEST loses space, J4G's leave, the Core Membership shares a laugh, and become Nomadic.
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Stain, Omist, or Syndicate party anybody?
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It should be noted that Kill It With Fire is an Alliance that hangs out with TEST/Tribe when they are not in their wormholes.
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We're mad? News at 11; we're pretty cheerful and I certainly don't see any mad. Did you enjoy getting blapped off the field as soon as you appeared?
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These fights are fun. Just a lot of us remember how the last Delve war happened, and we don't intend to let it happen again.
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Nork tears best tears. Literally cried their way out of test, hah ha. Love that kugu is still around. Can keep following their tardband <3
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The CONDI SBU are destroyed now, there was not just one of it either.
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regarding the twitch link:?t=84m0s First Engagement on SBU?t=152m0s Second Engagement after short rest and reshipAlso, screw hotkeys in TiDi.
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Goons teaming up with NCdot and PL because all their precious tech is worthless now and they want our R64. It's pretty sad, but that's Goon's for you, willing to team up with bitter mutual enemies as long as it pays.
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So bitter it is delicious.
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I still have my contacts in reimbursements, your situation could be generously described as "struggling".
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I don't think anyone is ~mad~ anymore, I'm just enjoying padding my killboard with names I recognize and damping people I consider to be shitlords.
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LMAO SO BITTER RIGHT????????BUZZWORD????
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So, TEST spins a narrative and once they ~win~, and the cracks in the narrative start to appear, you're left with people like this who are grasping at straws to maintain their narrative - there is no invasion, there never was.
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I rest my case.
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"Tribe still bad" So true.Watching their entire fleet get bomberdunked by whoever was running the bombs live was stunningly beautiful. The chat loved it.
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I don't think you seem to understand that your original comment is just as pointless as that one.
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And I don't think you fully grasp how infantile your comments on this article look.
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Resorting to namecalling? Time to grab my popcorn.
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*popcorn*
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Nah man. We'd just move back to X-7 in Pure Blind and pick up where we left off with FA.
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Are we still shit after we rubbed the floor with you? Eat it, you can hedge all you want, but once this is over we'll be holding your R64's, not the other way around, no matter how much you cry about it not being an invasion.
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Yep they don't have any values, they could sell their mothers ..
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ahahaha oh wow the kool-aid here is insaneIf last night was your definition of "rubbing the floor" then sure, whatevs.
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"Shadoo was the calmest FC in PL"Then I say Mittens was the calmest FC in the CFC fleet, calling targets when Freedomsquad spread fire on everyting in range, blue and red, and not on primary.
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Themittani, going down the road to en24 level with added great bitterness lelvel of our ex, keep it on kungu, thanks.
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I'm sure your practically indecipherable comment adds great value here, too.
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"Shooting the IHUB an invasion does not make" "SBUing fountain an invasion does not make" Just curious what does constitute an invasion then?
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~wulfpax~ is basically the death of any serious alliancehint: TEST is not PL
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TRIBE commits 100x that of Raiden to defending 1-SMEB, while Raiden has more D/Q/PB R64s than TRIBE could hope to have. How nice!
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I pressed F1 and you were gone, so much fun.
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"Didn't want those ships/fleets anyway"
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Generally about 100 supercaps, 200 caps, 2-3 fleets of subcaps, 20+ SBUs and at least one dead titan who meant to bridge not jump.I can't speak for PL or NCDot though.
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Could you guys be more childish and/or naive?The same could be said about TEST when they got together with PL, Raiden and Init. All entities that were once hostile to TEST/Goons
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Please don't throw an oversized spanner like that into the works, it's too much
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Love to see NCdot and PL ninja cyno-in some supers before a fight and dunk on that juicy inexperienced TEST slowcat fleet.It's funny to see how PL and NCdot decided to have some ~gudfites~ with TEST for a few weeks before they inevitably bring along their super fleets to Delve and then easily purge TEST from these regions.
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Who cares about isk nowadays? These heavy losses put a big strain on TEST logistics and soon enough you have only rifters left.
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So if someone was to SBU Deklein Goons wouldn't take that as a threat of invasion?
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How did the last delve war happen? Did it ever stop or was it just temp postponed.And people think the coalitions are waiting for the moon scans from Odyssey!
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logic? this is evenewstwenty...ohwait!
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"bitterness" I don't think that word means what you think it means...
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Confirming that leaving your strategic assets in a strategic location means you're not invading.
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....and minerals you mine yourself are free.
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We are defensively SBUing Fountain now.
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"The invasion of Delve may be over, but the Thunderdome is just heating up."Please reconcile this.
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And TESTBros get yelled at for shitposting.
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Your bad comments finally took your moderator rights away or what.
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Tell me about it. We saw Makalu on grid last night and had to hold fire. Do you know how hard that is for a Goon?
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Holy sh*t, am I the only one amazed TEST by itself fielded 1250 people?
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<3 i'm internet spaceship fameous
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I asked for my mod rights to be pulled, so no.
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1500 pilots on field for four+ hours battleing each other and 10% Tidi.. Probably the most fun I've had in a fight since I was in Smashkill vs Frege
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We teamed up with some guys we were kinda enemies with (not as much as Goons) to do things against people that we didn't consider/call friends. Goons however have teamed up with guys they were mortal enemies with to fight against people they have tried to say they were friends with since start. Not to mention the Endie spin doctor on the TEST forums saying that it's all for "goodfights" which it's gone beyond that and to stabbing in the back.
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Shoot, I'm just shocked at the level of fleet discipline they displayed...
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I would like to point out the Oneiros' we did actually blap with the Slowcats. Also we did kill quite a few of the Tengu pilots as well.
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Our Rifters will blot out the sun.
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- Pinging like madmen to form up 500+ along with supers and hictors to move halfway across the galaxy to help kill your so-called friends' supercapital fleet- Trying to rally half of the galaxy to join you in a war against your so-called friends- Creating a bullshit narrative to turn your so-called friends' allies (FA) into bitter enemiesAfter doing those things, you call Goonswarm your "friends?" Spare me the bullshit, thanks!
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Richter, no one got "dunked" last night. So you managed to get more ISK kills, wow, you must feel so proud of yourself. If that's all you care about no wonder you lost the field. When you have something to fight for that has meaning, you will throw everything you have at it. Something I guess you don't understand.
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When can we move out cap fleet closer so I can blap test slowcats?
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When were Raiden ever bros? Seriously, I could give two shits if someone invaded their asses tomorrow.
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You guys wanted "gudfights", reset CFC so we are after gudfights you promised.
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One, we never called FA friends. In fact we never liked them. Two, you are saying that we didn't consider GSF to be our friends then you don't know reality. It was only once we left the CFC and said, "we got this, don't worry, and stop trying to mother us to death GSF," that Goons really got bitter at us. Never before did a real member of the CFC leave that wasn't kicked out by GSF. That's when GSF decided that they didn't like the idea of an alliance like ours being around. Now, you may believe that we are bad people but Test is anything from. We are a little odd and maybe a tad insane, but bad, come on.
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We may have made mistakes picking allies and allocating resources to em but is GSF any different from us? Look at FA they could not even handle a single sqouad of ours to the point there they canceled every punky roam a stratop to ensure our squad would not beat them bloody. Yes they bring warm bodies to your fleets great so what? I don't think that is what really matters to be considered a worthy ally. How many alliances do you have in the CFC that you can say could honestly stand on their own?
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You don't know your own fucking history. You know TEST were the ones who took FA under their wing when they left the NC, right? No, that was long before your time; you only joined after your retarded leadership felt like creating unnecessary animosity with the rest of the CFC.
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FA can easily handle Cloak Squad but your retarded narrative completely excludes the fact that the meat of FA is never even in Pure Blind.
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You really are an idiot. Next time keep going back on the Employment history. I was in the NC a long time ago. I was around for the FA crap. Again, as I said, we never called FA friends. FA have always been a joke. I remember them from Providence, they are a joke, period.
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I remember TEST when they were in the Testagram, oh boy are you guys a joke!Oh wait alliances actually develop over years and you're a goddamned moron. Tell me more about how TEST never called FA friends, despite the fact that they took FA under their wing and gave them space in Fountain.Also good job changing your disqus name to post anonymously. Might as well change it to "TEST GRUNT"
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BL is currently chewing through your cap fleet up north, if you had anything more to commit, you would.
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Yeah we're getting decimated by losing like 1 titan and 2 supers flown by morons even more clueless than the average test member
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We were young and new. FA have been around for a long time and have been a joke forever now. I think what's the best thing is the fact that FA still can't operate on their own. In Providence they needed the Providence Holders to maintain power. Where they are now they need the CFC to maintain power. Test are on our own (with some friends yes) maintaining power. Just because we didn't fall over, die, and collapse the second we left the CFC like a lot of your guys thought we did is the reason you are so bitter over it. Again, your guys have done this in Delve and your guys are the ones keeping it going by teaming up with your "mortal enemies" that your alliance said in the first place to attack another alliance that Endie keeps swearing is your friend. Also, Endie kept saying that you weren't actually teaming up with PL/NC. but yet the killmails, pictures, and now even PL would show otherwise. You guys are nothing but back stabbers clearly. Oh and the name change, I've never liked the Major in the front. Templar is fine but never like Major. So I changed it. Most likely going to change it again to MTemplar right now.
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Maybe when you can't afford to hand out caps anymore we'll toss you a few, after we're through beating you black and blue. Oh sorry, is that racist?
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Please you guys can't even afford to reimburse supers and you're losing 100b+ defending an inconsequential systemCompared to test I think we're doing fine fiscally!
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"Being able to operate on their own" is an utterly stupid way to measure up an alliance that doesn't have 10000+ members. And it's not like TEST has ever invaded anything on their own successfully.But please keep crying "BACKSTABBERS" when you guys tried to rally the entire galaxy to invade the CFC and needed Shadoo to talk your demented CEO off the ledge when he wanted to pull the trigger.
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FA were bros for a very long time, dude.
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And soon we will, and you wont, once the tech backbone of your alliance crumbles. I'm just saying no bad feels bro, well let you crash on our couch once you stop this pathetic attempt at invasion.
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I think we'll do fine. TEST, not so sure - they're pretty good at getting 100b+ backlogged in reimbursements under a goddamned jammer while outnumbering the enemy
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And this is why NC has lost all it's space several times.
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Look forward when the Delve quest is over, and see how CFC fairs when Testies send a few squadrons to play along with 401k and BL. and rf them moons. Lolz GSF are getting dunked by less than 120 BBC up North.
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The Tribute war was some of the most fun I've had in this game. NCdot aren't some shitty alliance that give up and evac to lowsec after losing a timer, they actually fight. Quite different from last year's Delve "war" where we had solo AFK Goonswarm dreads finishing off ihubs.
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If you think a squad getting bored and throwing tengus into a massive fleet with far superior numbers is an invasion force then you're probably fucked when a real invasion happens.Can we invade TEST?
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Yeah look how well ~wulfpax~ worked out for basically everyone that has gone wulfpax ever
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"With nothing left to draw out an engagement, the fight was effectively over. PL, NC, and Goons were able to extract to their systems"You could fight each other scrubs.
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so now pl goons and ncdot are allied. alliances need to make up their minds who they want to blue, who they want to fight, and who swallows who
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you got it all the NC. guys are running around like giddy girls because they will probably have another fight like this sometime this week
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Who cares how much fun you had, they got dumpstered, and now they live in a former Russian ghetto. They lost because they think killing a few ships and losing strategic targets is a viable game plan, just like A. They wouldn't dare fly in delve without PL holding their hands.
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Dude, they knew Tribute was lost the moment their ihubs were reinforced. They were completely outnumbered. Their game plan was to make it as painful as possible for the opposition. The only other viable choice is to just evac. It's way more fun to fight it to death and dumpster a few idiots in supers/titans along the way.
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Funny how they forget about Goons/PL paying their sov bills/srp during times of financial duress, yet now a relatively fledgling alliance is going to be the financial backbone of EVE: Online.It's hilarious to hear their adorable newbro's talk heavy about CFC alliances, the alliance history, and how large their super fleet is; While the smug just builds in them during this 'sov war' where the combined might of NC., PL and GoonSwarm is represented by 250 or so Tech 3s.
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Let's stick around for a while with nothing to shoot at, because that sounds fun after brawling for 4 hours. We had very important spacejamming to do.
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No he's right Goonswarm is going to completely fail THE MOMENT Odyssey is released because we're totally not expecting the changes. I'm already wining and dining Grath to improve my chances of getting into Snigg ((
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/vouch
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And of the goons SBUing Fountain about an hour after the fight?
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probs to test for fighting shame they did not show that vigor back when Montilio called for war. Seriously dude above sides like cfc bitch who thinks he is uber pvp for pressing f1 . I have to say they’re getting a taste of their own medicine and the belief that CFC would take them back has backfired. The goons met game has won the day. There goes all the r64 straight into goon hands with token gestures to there PL bitches . Well expect null sec to stay stagnate until CCP get there thumbs out their asses and make moon mining an active part of the game instead of passive ISK
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I giggled at the fact Montolio was on field in a merlin. Talk about dedication......
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Randolph report, best report
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Raiden is disbanding. You will probably get most of the R64s. Enjoy.
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I'm GSF and probably yeah ;p
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Long live the FOFO Dynasty.
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A vigorous shower? Sounds like you scrub it out to not shooting goons.
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Good write up. Nice job
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Sure they can handle Cloak Squad. When they drop triage. On a talwar roam. (Nojoke). FA is your version of Banderlogs.
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You're still mad? Damn.
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Stop smoking that :D
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TEST resets CFC entities. TEST starts to be retarded, gets reset by GSF. TEST deploys to Pure Blind to provoke a war (shoots sov structures regardless the NIP). TEST needs PL do so stuff. TEST gets soloed in Fade and blueballed in PB. TEST mad, goes home. HBC dies, TEST still mateys with Raiden. TEST gets a system SBUed, starts to panic about invasion. GTFO :D Wanted goodfights ?
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I really doubt that those guys are interested in 133t pvpers like TEST.
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Can't believe that you are still butthurt about your terrible performance in FA space. Sperging local in PB, die in Fade. Mordus Angels should get Delve, not you.
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People wanted to fight right ? Blow up and laugh in fire ? Why so much MAD here ? I fail to understand this concept. TEST still has a big chunky alliance with massive numbers, they get fair fights even if the opposition is not the usual thing. I am going to repeat my words from Pure Blind. "Dear TEST, if you expect people to throw fleets on you and let you win because you can field 1500 nerds on Wendnesday evening you are either very naive or heavily underestimate your reds. We are not dumb (even we bad at EVE). Delve was always hell and wait after Odyssey... No more cloaks, no more kiting tornadoes, SFIs and other terrible fleets. BRAWL, hell yeah.
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I'm not in TEST, but I see what you're saying
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please let Elise Randolph post more battle reports... i really to enjoy them
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never forget mj! and the one dread with 425 rails! lmao... i miss frege... they were awesome...
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its called new moon goo mechanics and thunderdome...
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He's talking about fountain you tremendously dumb shit.
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FWIW, whatever my complaint last time, this was a fantastic read. Thanks!

Editor's Note: Once again Elise Randolph of Pandemic Legion brings us an excellent report on the fighting in Delve. Thanks, Elise!

The Setup

The most storied region in the game made another notch in its figurative belt today, a mere two days after a fantastic brawl for the ages. Although Test did win the mid-week engagement in 1-SMEB, they did so by the skin of their teeth; the IHUB was saved, but the SBU’s were not destroyed and as such it was put back into reinforced. In the lead up to the fight – which was firmly into USTZ – Test emotions were running hot. Many were satisfied with the result, some were dejected that the win was not bigger, and some were flat-out considering it a loss. A fair few were banging the invasion wardrums, while others dismissed it as an excuse for fights. Regardless, the Test pilots all had one thing in common: pride. Not only were they reshipped and ready to fight for round two, but they were chomping at the bit for the opportunity to eclipse the massive 1200-man turnout.

Understanding that Test would have a massive showing, and satisfied with the skirmishes in the previous day, PL, NCdot, and Goons all were taking a “wait and see” approach. Test announced seven fleets: Rail Rokhs, Blaster Rokhs, AHACs, Slowcats, Bombers, Instacanes, and E-War/Tackle. Tribe announced Rail Rokhs as their fleet of choice. With half of the subcap fleets being BS heavy, PL/NCdot/CFC opted for an AHAC-style of fleet, complete with bombers. The game plan was to try and separate a fleet, wait for bombers to do their thing, and charge in if things are looking favorable. Essentially the same plan as the first 1-SMEB fight, but hey if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. Not only was the strategy identitcal, but the ship choices were as well. PL in AHACs, NCdot in Lokis, and Goons in Tengus – about all in equal numbers (give or take). 

Strategy

Having to travel from another region to join the fight, and in Battleships no less, Tribe were once again the odd fleet out. However, while Lady Luck may have smiled on the PL intercept two days ago, today she turned the cold shoulder; as Tribe came into system and made a 20 au warp, PL bridged into system and…nothing. The Tribe fleet landed at gate, jumped through, and ran to the nearest station while PL ships struggled to materialize. The ~170 man Tribe Rokh fleet was destined to make it to the fight – though fate would prove to be a cruel mistress a bit later on. 

Miffed at the miss, the PL fleet reset and tried to make another drop a few systems over. Tribe, however, were far too cautious and were content to play the waiting game. Unable to devote anymore time to the chase, PL were forced to let Tribe run free and focus on getting into 1-SMEB. The NCdot Loki fleet managed to make it into the system unharassed while Test were dealing with the logistical challenges of funneling seven fleets into one system. The Test Slowcat fleet again cyno’d into the system early as the cyno-jammer was cycled, and this time they were accompanied by some 20 Supercaps. While PL, NCdot, and CFC were content to play the 1-SMEB fight the same way, Test drastically changed up their strategy. The Slowcats, which were left paradoxically guarding the jammer for the duration of the first fight, were now released from bondage of the POS and shockingly were dispatched to kill an SBU. The Test subcapital fleets, instead of chasing NCdot to the Ihub, instead setup on another SBU – guarded by bubbles and positioned immaculately. The whole “killing SBUs” thing is a much more pragmatic and traditional approach to saving a system; Test were playing this one by the book. With three minutes to the Ihub coming out of reinforced, PL and Goons jumped into system to meet up with NCdot. As the timer ticked down, the three fleets warped to the I-hub and goaded the seven Test fleets to meet them.

Although Test had a near 3:1 numerical advantage in a jammed system with 130 Capitals (more than any single fleet had DPS ships), Test were resolved to keeping their cool. The Test fleets were covering two SBUs and were poised to win the DPS race; they simply refused to give into the PL/NC/Goon siren song at the IHUB and instead put the onus on PL/NC/Goon to come to them. 

The Fight

Challenge accepted. The unlikely triumvirate warped individually over to the Test sub-capital fleets, struggled for positioning, and then simply charged in. PL and NCdot were the first to go in and positioned themselves in such a way as to sandwich the Test Rokh and AHAC fleets. Shortly after the Goon Tengus came in and, having the sturdiest kinetic tank, charmed the Test Rokh fleet into focusing on them while all the fleets began to whittle down the sizeable Test AHAC fleet. The Rokhs failed to find their groove and were forced to reposition frequently. In a bold move, the Test Slowcat fleet appeared early on in the fighting to provide a sphere of 0wn, and draw some attention from the various bomber fleets. The Rokh fleets continued to move about gingerly, attempting to avoid bombers at every turn, maneuvering further and further away from their AHAC fleet which was taking the brunt of the storm. The triad of tech threes seized the small opportunity and cleared off the AHAC DPS as fast as possible. Test took the route of attrition and focused mostly on Logistics when they could – they did, after all, have the numbers to pull that maneuver off.

AHACs died, yet somehow they were steadily replaced and put back onto the front lines; Test had coyly redirected their JB network so NOL led directly to 1-SMEB. The hot AHAC-on-AHAC action continued, though whenever the Rokhs got within striking distance they were forced to MJD out of range and run from the looming bomber threat. The notable exception, however, was the gunshy Tribe Rokh fleet. After the near-miss early on in the fight, they were forced to show up fashionably late to the party. They chose a suboptimal time to enter grid; the AHACs were momentarily reforming and the Test Rokhs were darting on and off grid. As Tribe landed on grid everything converged on them. All three tech three fleets and two bomber fleets. The instant evisceration of the Tribe fleet did have one benefit – PL and NCdot were both stripped of the pivotal dictors that were helping to hold the Slowcat fleet in place. PL/NC/Goon rounded up some reinforcements, and all parties took this as an opportunity to catch their collective breaths. It was a very civil ceasefire, hilariously enough, and both sides took this opportunity to reship. As the PL/NC/Goon fleets got new dictors to keep the Slowcats pinned, they had already extracted to the safety of their POS. 

The SBUs were destroyed, and although Goons stole a crucial SBU it would still mean an hour of waiting before the IHUB was vulnerable again. After four hours of fighting, nobody was willing to wait. Test probably assumed this, and with their Slowcat fleet now safe, had no reason to fight. There was one last ditch effort to draw out a fight, though, and that came in the form of the twenty Supercaps that were put on Cyno-jammer duty. The fleets converged on the Supers, but they were able to slowboat into the shields with relative ease. Although Goons had a sizeable Machariel armada in system, they had apparently fallen asleep. Alternatively they were watching Pitch Perfect together, one cannot be sure. Either way, they never made it out of the POS to bump the supers, and AHACs are lousy at bumping. The Test fleet did one final driveby and killed me before moonwalking out back to their POS. 

Winding Down

With nothing left to draw out an engagement, the fight was effectively over. PL, NC, and Goons were able to extract to their systems while the 500 remaining Test in 1-SMEB picked up where they left off and shot some towers, fired some fireworks, and congratulated one another. SMEB was saved in a much more convincing fashion. The bold use of Slowcats and the unwillingness to deviate from strategy saw Test through on this one. At the same time, PL, NCdot, and Goons were able to go into a fight horribly outnumbered and come out the other side largely unscathed. Both sides were incredibly satisfied by the result; a rare win-win. The atmosphere in Test for the last SMEB fight was mixed, but this time it was downright jovial –and for good reason too. Test put nearly 1200 bodies into fleet for the second time in as many days, while incurring half the losses. The panicked invasion talk has dwindled and excitement is picking up. The invasion of Delve may be over, but the Thunderdome is just heating up.

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Funfacts

  • Frustrated after PL were splitting fire on three different targets, I suggested we disband
  • Grath took the focus of the Test POSes instead of penif. He was saved at the expense of killing half a Test Rokh fleet – proof that we still love him
  • Toward the end of the fight, the PL logistics decided not to have me on watchlist and let me die like a scrub
  • Shadoo was the calmest FC in the PL fleet

 

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