Northern Coalition(dot) July Alliance Update

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NC. are my favorite enemy in EVE they are a pretty cool bunch.
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OMG I wanna fly a rattlesnake. D= Apping to NCDot now =P
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Rattlesnake Doctrine? Interesting.
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Confirming TEST doesn't care too much about Fountain.
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So... TEST made themselves so broke they now rely on donations to stay afloat to fail to defend a region they don't care about? Interesting.
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"The war is between Goons and TEST"Didn't want that ally anyway
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This is how you Alliance update...Not going to name names, but... Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Edit: Nvm, seems my discuss be derpin'
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Vince is clearly a stalker!!
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That is what it really is. We don't lose anything if Fountain is taken but it is the only area we can get fights outside of 3rd partying the war going on around Stain. Sticking it to goons (even if we are losing) by making their sov grind take a little longer is just an added bonus. As Vince said we'll stand by them until they give up or Fountain is taken which is about all anyone can ask of us.
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Ncdot doesn't lose anything right now, that's true.The fall of Fountain will make the CFC massively more powerful than any other coalition, which means they can hold any sov alliance to ransom. I'm not sure if leaving is going to be considered a good decision in three or four months.
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And that is why the CFC will win this war. They are committed and have moon-income to lose, while NCdot isn't losing anything but a nice arena by watching TEST give up this region.
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so test cant be bothered ,NCdot and PL arent fussed either way about the war ,kinda means N3 are screwed trying to hold fountain - im off back to tenerifis to rat ,so much for the epic war
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That was actually rather classy. I'll repeat what several have stated already. As far as reds go, NCdot are decent enemies. If we can get some more spotlight on the day to day of the Drone War fights (if/when) you guys have them; I'd love to see that. While I don't want to put any potential spin out on what a week or so of time away from the fountain conflict will do to TEST, I will say that the CFC does tend to take advantages and press down upon them to the best of our ability (as I'd wager any other coalition would try their utmost to do).Whether TEST falls back to Delve to regroup and engages in hit and run tactics as they build back up for possible Delve Fights, or continue forming for Fountain is anyone's guess. The loss of NCdot temporarily is a setback.
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All SOLAR systems were SBU'd in 4 days. Grind ops are running pretty much all day. After confidently predicting the war would last 2 months, SOLAR are moving out without a fight. PL and NCdot will probably finish this week. See you in Fountain.Thats how you win a Sov war.
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Test can definitely be bothered. We're still forming up more people and more often than any other alliance in the game, as can be expected.
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TEST is making massive strides towards improving numbers, we just have a very entitled US TZ, tired AU tz and a frustrated EU TZ.All equally bad at showing up in decent numbers* (except my Aussie dudes) but we've definitely noticed the problem, and we're fixing it.
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If all goes well we'll be back in fountain by the end of the week and solar will have to regrind 40+ systems. If we are counting this all as one war goons took <10 systems while we took 40
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"...until TEST gives up, or Goons take it all" No other result expected.
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But are you really?
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I think that once Fountain is all wrapped up the CFC needs to go to drone lands and return the favor that NC. PL and N3 so graciously extended to us. You know, just for the good fights and all.Rattlesnake doctorine- hell yes. Please inflate the prices of these, because, you know, Deklein is worthless now.
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Actually we (CFC) are going to take around 15 systems just this weekend, putting us at around 25 for the war. The war is essentially over.
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Glad I'm not the only one who caught that.
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You have 2/36 stations and 15 of the 100+ systems. This war is far from over.
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It never ceases to amaze me that no matter how many times the Russians are invaded -be it in game or the real world- and it fails every time, there is always someone impetuous enough to try it again and not learn from the mistake of those that went before them.This is the same tactic that the Russians have been using for 500 years. Fall back, burn everything behind you, and wait. Winter is coming...
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Lame. Wish the war lasted longer than just 2 months...
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Really if so could you tell us where to find these people, because they're not in Fountain.
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The war is over. All that's left is structure grinding as you've so aptly pointed out.
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I was chasing around 20 or 30 talwars yesterday in my inty, and that's all I saw of TEST aside from scattered solo dudes.
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Confirming Delve and Querious by Xmas cause ncdot fucking with our war
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Yes, help us liquidate our rattlesnake BPCs
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Burn down the renter empire!Should be fun to watch
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It would have been an interesting war if Goons took on TEST from the start, but from day one they dragged the rest of the CFC into it, willing or not. Had N3 and PL not come to TESTs aid the war would obviously have been over very quickly and you would be spending the entire time structure grinding instead of having awesome fights daily.But hey, spin on I guess.
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Not everyone makes a habit out of spinning the truth and I'm certainly not about to start.Deal with it.
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That's just not true. You are dominated in EU and US, and we broke your AU. While CFC numbers improve, Test is bleeding fleet members from every time zone. This war is over.
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Ahahaha, could'nt be more true
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Not even because we want it, just to burn it all down
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Test = Sisters of the Poor
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Didn't want that region anyway.
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Explain where we "dragged" our coalition members into anything. TEST/N3 seem to think our allies want to be doing something other than taking part in the only large war for years ... which is just grossly untrue. We even picked up several allies expressly to take part in it.We're all having a pretty good time; TEST turnout is failing fast and ours is holding steady.
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Jeez, Remember the 1-SMEB fights, 3 fulls rokh fleets........and it has now come to this......
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If TEST continue to show so poorly it's absolutely over and no, SOLAR's attacks in the Drone Regions do not count whatsoever as part of this war.
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Dragged? You couldn't have kept us out with a gun to our heads.
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damn... i was really hopping for the end of the cfc... they just wont die will they. but i guess they are just retaking space they already lost when test broke off of cfc... i wonder if after test looses they can rejoin the cfc and go live in the north or something like good dogs...
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sigh... can you please promise that after you take all of 0.0 you will disband and allow null sec to be cool again... i was really hopping for null sec to be cool again. :( ccp please fix null.
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No it's not
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i would have to say BL saved goons... that and the renter sov thing... if that did not happen goons were on they way to loosing all sov in fountain... mittinz showing his Superior diplomacy wins the day any day.
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solar are indeed a key factor in this war. if solar had not taken advantage of the sov loose move by cfc then pl and test would have had to retake the sov now a 3rd time. that would have meant they would be completely focused on fountain... and remember how well cfc were doing before the sov renter loose? yeah... so please dont spew crap.
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fyi snakes are going to loose the missile velocity bonus and gain a drone tracking and optimal range bonus... basically super domi's.... i wonder why n3 would be interested in those...
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How do you suggest we keep our allies - many of whom hate TEST more than we could - out of this war? Or, you know, get our allies to sit around doing nothing while we create content?
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great propaganda i assume since test was once part of the cfc?
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So will the fall of delve, when NCdot takes it from test.
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You should ask any FA member just how much they love TEST
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If all goes to HELL we will redeploy back to fountain and loose 4 systems in a few days from Solar.
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Except that the CFC didn't actually orchestrate the sov drop in the East, there was only advice given on how to go about doing it. And yes, I remember how well the CFC was doing before that - we were 'not winning fast enough'. Morale and the willingness to get in fleets has never suffered during the 6+ weeks of this war. We, the line grunts, came into it expecting it to last at least 2-3 months. At least a few of us were preparing for double that.Meanwhile TEST's numbers have been dropping steadily. They're only continuing to field fleets at all because they're getting handouts. Everyone, including TEST, is acutely aware that none of the participation by other power blocs is actually 'pro-TEST', but rather 'anti-CFC', and that even if we do get forced into a stalemate in this war, TEST is not going to hold Fountain. Someone else will take it from them, and in relatively short order, once their will to fight completely collapses.At this rate, even if the CFC has no interest in Delve, TEST has to be wondering if their 'allies' intend to allow them to hold it, especially with some of those 'allies' already entrenched in Querious and sharpening their knives.
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Perhaps if TEST hadn't alienated 3/4 of their allies as the opening move in their war against the CFC...
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err what are NC. the new russians ?It was predicted that the retaking of the drone lands would take 2-3 weeks. Its looking like being over in week. The russians aren't even fighting, not only are they losing the space they took off NC they are going to lose the systems that NC. left them with last time
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The war is not over, but it has swung towards goons. Goons have done what goons do really well. Take a small window and maximize the damage they can do. They missed the oppertunity when the nulli sov dropped, but made up for it this time around. Its been wierd in the drone lands, its actually been a bit of a break for the sub caps. Theres been less resistance from solar than the goons in the AUTZ. Its acutally been a break for the AUTZ subcap pilots. Think theres only been 1 subcap fleet head out and it was to take out a Cyno Jammer so the caps could come in and kill shit
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no thx the moon mining is shit right now
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hey Little Bee please get the fuck out from my coalitions special snowflake.Test recruiting useless shit like you
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Solar is the last alliance with a master/pet mentality.I hope that we won't be friends
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I will gladly support the effort to liberate oppressed renters from their overlord masters when we are done with Fountain. After all there are probably "gud fights" to be had there.
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FULL API..so they can read everyones mail ?

After one of many ongoing operations in the Drone regions, Vince Draken, leader of Northern Coalition, held a state of the alliance meeting. The main topics covered were progress on their deployment in the Drone Lands, the state of Fountain's defense and clarifying NCdot's relationship with TEST, along with updates about the alliance's finances and various policies.

RETAKING THE DRONE LANDS

  • NCdot is currently balls deep in the Drone Lands with 48 systems to retake.
  • As of tomorrow the losses will be down to virtually none as Solar will lose 20 systems Monday and 8-9 on Tuesday and 2-3 on Wednesday.
  • Enemies in Drone Region, despite outnumbering NCdot subcapital wise daily, are refusing to fight.
  • In fairness to SOLAR – N3 in addition with PL has vastly more super capitals. However it is unknown why Solar refuses to have any subcapital fights of any kind.
  • After that, NCdot will be pretty much done in Drone Lands as SOLAR will have zero sovereignty left.
  • Last time SOLAR was left with some scrap systems here and there and a couple jump bridges. This time they will be left with nothing.
  • SOLAR will presumably recover as they have in the past and start over, again.
  • This will allow NCdot up to six weeks to ignore them and if necessary, return to the Drone regions to erase them off the map again.
  • NCdot could be completely done with Drone Lands as early as Wednesday night.

GENERAL

  • Super capital deployment is getting more organized and efficient.
  • As it stands, Northern Coalition has a substantial amount of ISK in the war chest.
  • Renting is hugely profitable, but requires maintenance – such as when sovereignty is dropped and actions need to be taken to secure those systems.
  • If a fleet commander, new or currently established, puts a fleet up and you're online; join the fleet.
  • Vince stressed the need to join any Call to Arms (CTAs) if pilots are available.
  • All alliance members are to make sure all of their ships are up to date and have the currently required CTA doctrine ships.
  • All corporations have bonus Tech 3 ships available for all operations.
  • SM3LL Whiskey Nights are extremely lethal and everyone is encouraged to attend at their own risk.

INCENTIVES

  • The dreadnought or super carrier program will reactivate.
  • After a meeting with fleet commanders and bean counters; there will be a decision on which capital incentive to do. Either a dreadnought with 2 billion ISK towards the purchase for members or the super carrier with 10 billion ISK for members.
  • NCdot will possibly be returning to the Fountain region after all objectives are done in the Drone regions.
  • Over 400 billion ISK has been spent on incentives for members to be in dreadnoughts.
  • Currently NCdot can have up to 75 or more super capitals in a posted operation. Goal is so on a short notice ping we can have more even dreads instantly in fleet and ready to go.
  • There is a PLEX for spies program in the works.

FLEET COMPOSITION CHANGES

  • Upgrading rigs from T1 to T2 on medium sized ships. Specifically Lokis, Legions, Proteuses and Logistics.
  • There is no point in not upgrading considering the price drop and their bonuses far outweigh the penalties.
  • There will be more fleet composition changes coming soon, specifically the introduction of the Raven and the Rattlesnake.
  • As changes continue to happen with CCP balancing and revamping ships, NCdot will continue to bring in new doctrines and phase out old ones.
  • Shield Slowcats are currently reserved for niche situations and there is no expectation for them to replace armor Slowcats.
  • Due to the Odyssey expansion skill requirement change; there is no reason to not cross train and fly Archons over Thanatos and Nidhoggers.

REIMBURSEMENT POLICIES

  • Shield and armor triage carriers will be updated in both fit and reimbursement to reflect the rig changes.
  • Amarr carrier skill books will be reimbursed for those switching their slow carriers to Archons.

Full API NEEDED FOR ALL SERVICES

  • Members who are inactive for 30 days will automatically be kicked from all NCdot services.
  • Integrating full API is now required, including all CEOs.

THE STATE OF FOUNTAIN

  • Goonswarm Federation have taken 11 systems and two stations.
  • It has been slow grind for CFC, but they are making steady progress. NCdot tips their cowboy hat to CFC in their progress.
  • TEST does not seem to care too much about Fountain. TEST is forming loads of pilots some days and sometimes only 10 on other days.
  • NCdot will keep a close eye on the Fountain conflict and see how things go.
  • NCdot could have taken Querious and continued to shoot TEST, but it would have been boring.
  • Querious was primarily taken for the Neodymium moons, but there is renters there as well. NCdot members are free to head there and make ISK if they choose.
  • Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action.
  • The war is between Goons and TEST.
  • NCdot will continue to be a presence in Fountain until TEST give up and/or Goonswarm Federation take it all.
  • If Goonswarm Federation do in fact conquer Fountain, NCdot will see what they do next. Specifically, if they push on into Delve.
  • NCdot is expecting TEST's response to be better if Goonswarm Federation continues to push into Delve considering all of their members were vastly more active when TEST was against everyone in Delve not long ago.

Overall, Northern Coalition is in fantastic shape, Draken says, even after some hiccups from an upset with renter sovereignty and the resurgence of SOLAR Fleet in the Drone Lands. NCdot will continue to be a force to be reckoned with as they adapt to enemy tactics and game mechanic changes to ships and other aspects of the game.

I have been exploding internet spaceships since 2005. While I do love me a good large scale fight, I thoroughly enjoy small scale PvP as well.