NCdot Alliance Meeting: Go North!

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"HEY GUYS WE HATE GRINDING SOV SO LETS NOT GO TO WAR WITH CFC"brb griding malpais and geminate and etherium and kalevala.
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ok, ok, ok... This non sens has to stop. I understand we dont want to be involved in russian vendettas, yes Legion of Death did bad by harboring this theaf, etc, etc, etc... CFC has to take Germinate NOW wheter Legion of Death is ready or not. Then we have to move in Kalevala & Etherium to prevent N3-PL to take it. We want solar between us & them, not them between us & Solar...
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All in time.
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Came hoping to hear about NC. coming to THE North, disappointed that they're only moving to their relative north (ie anywhere north of the deep south that they're in now).
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We have a sekret POS in QYZM-W
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Didn't N3 say that they weren't going to take any Drone Region?. As I remember they don't want to kill Solar, just put them into a position where they won't harm N3 anymore. I guess it was just a lie... just like the cake...
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Good summary Ein
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I hear MACTEP and Mittani are still pen pals :/
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There's really not that much left to farm other than TCUs in Kelvela and Geminate with the former residents collapsing or moving out. ED is gone too so that leaves solar and BCA and not much else.SCRAP getting some space, there's lots of extra systems for renters and solar may deploy elsewhere eventually. Those are the important things.Of course you'll be sitting right next to the CFC in a week so there will be plenty of stuff to do. I'm surprised there hasn't been more commentary about the fact that ncdot will once again be neighbors to the CFC. It seems more important than the talk about grinding down a coalition that's been dead for two months.
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feck hmm didnt see this comin oo..MONTHS ago.......to all those still in drones...enjoy
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NCdot would have lost anyway, and SOLAR would have to fight against CFC/HBC/PL, with same outcome.
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Its all about the "Agressive Expansion"
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who gives a fuck. irrelevant fazor is irrelevant.
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Eingang you're a retard and you can't even listen to a recording properly. Next time you do a TLDR try doing ti right, fucking mongoloid. PL was always neutral and is becoming +5 god you're fucking bad. and you call yourself a researcher? ROFL
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shut up
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Isn't NCDOT like Triumvirate mk6 of 7 now?
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good comeback
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Hi Wicked.Thanks for commenting. I don't know when exactly it happened or even if it's true. I'm just working (painfully!) from what was said. Around 06:06, Vince Draken comments about groups remaining/not remaining blue. Here's a reasonably accurate transcription of what he said:“We will be reducing what blues we have because some of them, well, some of them don’t participate here. There’s no reason to have them blue. For example, INK and those dudes, they wanna have good fights and stuff, so obviously they are reset. That will happen with a number of other groups.”He's mixing his tenses in the blurb, but the context suggests that they were blue and that has recently changed or will soon change. So, you could be right that they were reset months ago, but it's not inconceivable they became (temporarily?) blue again after that, leading to Vince Draken's comment in this meeting. Perhaps someone in one of those groups will comment.When discussing allies and roaming, Vince Draken seemed cognizant of the need to keep the number of blues at a reasonable number in order to have groups to fight. Combine that desire with the exigencies of participating in a large, coordinated campaign, and I can imagine that there is probably a shifting tapestry of blues.Another likely example of balancing that need occurs shortly after the INK quotation. Around 06:14, he says, "Over time, obviously the core of N3 will remain blue. Just like [unintelligible] PL is neutral again for the roams." However, given that everyone will probably be cooperating to take Malpais (according to other statements he makes) and Pandemic Legion will be working on Geminate in the overall campaign (again, based on something he says), presumably PL's status will change again in the future, and this is a temporary change to provide PvP content. How it follows logically that the core of N3 will remain blue but PL is neutral again, I don't know, but he's speaking extemporaneously and these things happen.
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Sounds like mission creep to me.
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It's called mission creep.
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Thank you for your reasoned argument consisting of personal attacks and no specific references to anything actually said in the recording. What I've written is based on things I believed I heard in the recording without me considering its veracity. While being a researcher doesn't mean I'm infallible, it does mean I try hard to be accurate when summarizing the words of others. It certainly means I can engage in civil discourse. You should try it sometime.As I commented to Wicked further below, I'm guessing you're right and they will become blue in the future because they're participating in the coordinated campaign that Vince Draken discusses during the meeting. He doesn't explicitly say Pandemic Legion will be +5 (or any other shade of blue) that I can find in my transcription notes. He does, however, around 06:14 say, "Over time, obviously the core of N3 will remain blue. Just like [unintelligible] PL is neutral again for the roams." The logical connection between the two statements, suggested by their proximity, is a bit strange, but they're part of an overall chunk discussing blues/not blues. The phrasing "neutral again" suggests they *were* blue, but he definitely said they're neutral again, which is what I wrote.
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You both are so clueless.
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Guys! Guys! Go west, life is peaceful there. Go west, in the open air. Go west, baby you and me. Go west, this is our destiny. This is how it has been written. We must follow the prophecy, else we devolve into insanity.
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it's actually only mark 5 believe it or not. I was surprised too.
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Confirmed, INK and NC have been neuts for months though we still both participate together in opps and arre friendly when not shooting each other in the face with roaming fleets.
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WE NEED TRIBUTE BACK, THEY SAY
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Been there.Grinded that.http://youtu.be/eCabmY7VPTg
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What's coming to SOLAR? NCdot, Nulli, RA, Gypsy, INK, PL, dozens of pets and sometimes TEST have been fighting SOLAR and a few allies for 3 months now. So far they've taken one full region, out of 5.Solar's doing great.
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This is only too long to read if you don't read often.

North Is Where It's At

Vince Draken, leader of the Northern Coalition. (NC), held a meeting on February 24, 2013 to announce NC’s immediate plans. The major news was that NC will shortly be moving further north from Insmother to LEM (in the Kalevala Expanse). They will begin purging the Drone Regions as part of a coordinated effort to cut SOLAR Fleet off from Empire. The announcement to move further north was greeted with enthusiasm by other attending members, although there were questions about ship doctrines, training, logistics, PvP fights, and allies. The major highlights of the 24-minute meeting are summarized below.

The Big Plan

  • The focus will remain on SOLAR Fleet. The overall plan is to cut SOLAR Fleet off from Empire by having Pandemic Legion (–10.0) take Geminate, Northern Coalition. take Kalevala, and Scrap Iron Flotilla. (SCRAP) assault Etherium Reach (ER).

  • Ultimately, NC is not changing what they are doing or who they are shooting. They are moving somewhere with better logistics and to a region that needs to be “fuckin’ ultimately grinded”, which Vince Draken said won’t happen unless someone actually moves there.

The Immediate Plan

  • Step 1: Conquer U93O-A (Cache). This system will be taken, because NC owns a moon in there and it’s a pain to go in every other day with subcaps to take down the jammer. After that, with the exception of a neighbouring system with a moon they also own, they’re done taking systems just because they have moons in them.

  • Step 2: Conquer Malpais. Once operations in Geminate have concluded, everyone involved will probably collectively work to take Malpais, due to the region's large size.

  • Step 3: Move to LEM-I1 (The Kalevala Expanse). Everything will be moved from Insmother and HLW-WP (Curse) to LEM-I1. in order to purge the Drone Regions, starting from LEM in the Kalevala Expanse and going down to Cache. Excess ships and assets will likely be stored in Konora (in Metroplis), although Odebeinn is also a possibility. These are low-sec/high-sec systems, making it simple to sell ships no longer being used and providing good Empire logistics compared to their current space. LEM is a good location for roaming, with easy access to Malpais, the Spire, and Geminate. Mention was also made that CFC space lies to the north, where Li3 Federation (L3F) is currently located and many CFC coalition members are out on foreign deployments in other parts of EVE.

The Timeline

  • U39O-A’s i-hub and station will be attacked on February 25th at 17:40, with the station’s final timer coming out just over two days later.

  • The actual date for moving to LEM depends on how successful NC is in Cache, but the expectation is mid-week or this time next week.

Doctrines, Training, and Ships

  • The final list of what ships will be kept has not yet been decided, but members will need to have NC’s main ships: Foxcats, Rokhs, Lokis, and Slowcats. Nagas and Tornadoes are also useful. Bombers were also mentioned as something members should have.

  • Members need to keep training shield Slowcats and buy them, if possible. Vince Draken said, “They own so hard. They do literally over 1k DPS with the fuckin’ fit we have… Buy them.”

  • Black ops: Members should buy black ops ships and are being encouraged to train black ops cyno alts. Black ops cynos and black ops ships are awesome, preferably with jump drive calibration to level 5.

  • Members training the Chimera skill book will be reimbursed once the ships start being used.

  • Everyone should start buying AB HAM Caracals, because they will be used by at least one FC for runs in the US time zone to “fuck with the pets”.

  • Skill training: All members are to train micro jump drive, target spectrum amplification, and—most importantly because NC flies a lot of armor HAC ships—armor honeycomb to at least level 4. This was expected to take six or seven days.

Their Allies

  • The number of blues will be reduced. Some will be removed because of lack of participation. Others will be removed to prevent NC ending up in the same situation as the HBC and CFC, where, according to Vince Draken, they need to fly 50 regions away or deploy to the other side of EVE to PvP.

  • Pandemic Legion is once again neutral.

  • The core of the N3 coalition will remain blue, but The Unthinkables (INK) will be reset.

  • Red Alliance (RED), not currently an N3 coalition member, will likely be reset and set to some “don’t take their sov sort of bullshit.”

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