Campigenus: Video and Interview

Nice interview, would read again.I lie terriblyStar did not put me up to posting this comment in any way, shape or form. Please see previous line.
Awesome!! Look forward to seeing more like this
That last comment, ignore it. Was 'trying' (failing) at humor lol.Great video. Only comment I have is mask out the chat boxes (no one cares about what is said there, we're here for the vid) and get someone else to do the voice over (clarity was an issue from time to time).Wish I have 1/2 your talent at putting these things together :-/
There were a few things that really diminished the video:1. Narrators: audio was poor quality—especially the girl's voice which sounded distorted2. Viewpoint: fights were good, but footage was almost all zoomed out. 3. Storyline: what makes RnK's video so good is their storyline. The fights here could've been much more thrilling had you told the story and given the context.Beyond these issues, the video was actually quite good. The intro graphics were top-notch as was the editing of the footage. I'm looking forward to your next video.
AUDIO IS FUCKING WANK!! CLEAN IT UP!! That girl/13 year old guy tlaking at the start is barely audible, the fcs calls during the first fight get covered by the music half the time aswell jesus verge, i thought everything would be as sleek and shiny as ur fighting
Great video, unfortunately stunted by bad audio. The two need to work in tandem; You put a ton of work into the video, 2 days rendering a short scene? Why not do more than a single take on audio? Why not get somebody with a sound-room and not-horrible mic? It seems unbalanced, and these things really detract from the feeling you are trying to convey.Anyway, those are my criticisms, I liked the article as well.
this is garbage man and does not deserve the publicity.
wow the narration sounds terrible, can't even understand what there saying
Primaried in the first fight 6:00 into the vid. I haz tears.Nice fight, nice video, but I have to agree with the comments about the audio. Good clear audio would definitely turn this into what it deserves to be.
the narative sound is horrible but the video is nice
The narration is so poor.Want to know what is great about the RnK videos?The narration.
when showing the kills, you're just mouse wheeling down?you think this is an industry standard video?is this EN24???
I don't think it's fair to call it garbage without being either constructive or amusing. Eve is amazing because so much of the content in game and out is entirely player generated. Even the less great attempts like this video show someone having a go, and that's what it's all about. Effort should be acknowledged even if it's not top notch first attempt.; Maybe with a bit of feedback the next one from this guy/gal will be better and we could, with improvement have another source of excellent player generated content for free. I know they are trying to imitate the RnK style - but so what? Better to imitate something good than bad. They aren't going to spoil or interfere with RnK, so let them get on with it I say. I thought the intro was good. It showed a style that with a bit of work I feel could even be better than RnK. There were some really glaring errors, that I'm surprised they didn't fix, or get feedback from others about before general release, but I give them full points for trying - and giving me free content. I hope they take the feedback on board, and I look forwards to their next attempt. Your comment was lazy and brought no content or potential to the table - I know which one I could most happily do without - here's a fucking clue - it's you.
I think there needs to be more techno in EVE videos. Seriously not enough of that,
The thing here is that you're dunking on TEST, FCON, and TRIBE.That doesn't necessarily mean that your fleet concept is dope.
Yea the start was heavy on clipping. Rest is ok sounding so I'm wondering if it was Youtube messing up with the video.
omg. idk, but an alliance calling them self verge of collapse abusing wh topics in their name and logo and then not even fighting in whs.... rofl. logistics dominated 00 blops... 3d renders of ships without modules/guns, ship movement animation without animated environments...theres a lot more better stuff avail if u just search for "eve online" on youtube...i want them back, all the 23:13 minutes of my life!
Again the mitani uses agendas and puts crap like this on its site.There are plenty of other top notch vids out there besides this crap.Ohhhh, spinning ships, but cant understand the Chinese noodle girl. The fights are nothing great, the overview is all cluttered to f. Come on man. Get a new writer or something.Took you 3 months to make this crap, maybe you should have taken 3 more months and found a narrator whose voice could be understood.
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Campigenus is the product of three months of work recording fights, creating models, recording voice-overs, and editing footage to showcase some of the fleetcomps and tactics used by VoC’s notorious nullsec raiding parties. From heavy armor T3 brawlers, to kiting attack battlecruiser gangs, to Enyo wolfpacks with a tracking disruptor twist, StarConquer212 takes a nice sample of the many options available to modern PvP gangs and demonstrates just how devastating they can be when used properly.

Whenever I see a movie like this, I always think back to the time when I joined my first corp and, within a month or two, set out to remix our existing recruitment video. It was only about five minutes of low-quality FRAPS, but the whole thing took me about a week - 5+ hours a day - of sitting in front of a video editing program and making it cut scenes on queue to the beat. I'm sure the neighbors in my apartment complex still have nightmares when they hear that song.

So with that experience in mind, I thought it would be illuminating do a quick interview with StarConquer212 to see just what kind of effort went into this project, and get a sense of how it all happened.


Abis Cann: You said that this took 3 months and you worked on it every day. What the heck could possibly drive you to do that?

StarConquer212: I'm a little OCD when there's something I wanna do and I wanna do it well. There are a lot of EVE videos out there, and there are some really excellent ones, and there are some really bad ones. But you always remember the really good ones, the outstanding ones, like Rooks and Kings, or...there are other examples. So if you're gonna do something, I've always thought you should do it really well and you should do something that people will remember and be like "man, that was really good and original" or "I would like to watch that again" or "I will link that to people," you know? So if you want to do something original at this point in EVE's history, with how long of a game and how old of a game it is, you really have to put some time into it.

Abis: It's funny you should bring that up, because I was going to ask a question about that later. EVE movies seem to be maturing a little bit - do you think we're headed in that direction? Do you think we can expect more things like Clear Skies and Clarion Call 3?

Star: Absolutely. You gotta look at the people who make these things, if you understand a lot about video editing and the time that goes into it. For example, Clear Skies was made in the Half-Life 2 engine - and excuse me if I speak out of turn and I speak something not actually true about it. But from my understanding of it, it was made in the Half-Life 2 engine, the scripts were written for it, and the time alone to write the dialogue for that was immense, that's huge amounts of time that that guy put forward. Not only that but he made it in the Half-Life engine, so that's huge amounts of effort to load all that, build that, move everything, do the scenes scene by scene by scene. He didn't start with an art department like CCP. The Rooks and Kings videos are really original, probably an industry standard. Lord Maldoror and all those guys did a really wonderful job making those and each one was -

Abis: What do you mean by "industry standard?"

Star: Umm...when you talk to your average EVE player about who makes the best videos, or who's the most elite group in EVE, most people will say Rooks and Kings. Whatever your opinions are on the thing, they do make a really, they have made some really wonderful videos over the years. When I say "industry standard" I mean EVE videos that you would watch.

Abis: Clearly this isn't your first project. Did you go to school for this or are you self-taught?

Star: No, this is my first project, this is self-taught.

Abis: Oh, this is your first project! I figured even if you were self-taught you would have done something before.

Star: Well, I've been playing EVE for a long time, I've made other EVE videos when I was younger, and by that I mean when I was 15 years old. I don't really count those as such, because as a young person, you don't have the mind to sit down and teach yourself something really complicated, like some of this software. To that effect, to a lot, a lot of my learning curve was really benefited by my partner, My Fury, who does these kinds of things professionally. So I was able to cut through a lot of this stuff and be like "Fury, I have an issue, how do I get around this? I wanna do this and I'm working this out." And he'd be like "simple, just do this, this, bam, there you go." There's also a lot of hours reading on the Internet and watching tutorials, there's just tons of information out there. Some of it's really useful, some of it's a little complicated, and some of it's wrong.

Abis: How did you meet your mentor?

Star: In EVE, I've always prided myself on trying to make friends wherever I go. Being a positive person and in outlook I always thought that making a friend is more useful than making an enemy in EVE. Even if you make a friend with even the newest player - and this is something I was taught when I first started playing EVE - was that, if you make a friend in EVE and you teach them and help them, they will come back when they're older and they will help you more than anyone. Fury was a new player that I met, I don't even remember where, but at one point he was actually in a corporation I founded. I made friends with this guy, and after learning more about him and his real life and his exploits, he does this stuff freelance, plus other things. He's quite a talented individual and busy with his time.

Abis: How did you get the idea for the video? How did you decide that you wanted to present three battles with some animation between?

Star: A couple things contributed to that, really. I knew I wanted to make an EVE movie. I think giving something like that to the community is one of the best ways to be remembered, even if I stopped playing EVE or we stopped doing anything, making sure we would be remembered. If you make a good quality product, that people will watch again, you're remembered. Regardless of things. That's your testament to the EVE community, your gift to the EVE community.

As far as the way they were determined, I wanted to try to showcase that VoC has a lot of different varieties in the things it can do. We don't always just do signature fleets, we don't only do, like triage battleship stuff, we don't only do T3s. We can do nano really well and then we'll do creative small gang stuff as well, small to mid-size gangs that can take on large numbers.

Abis: Yeah, I liked your whole Enyo fleet idea with the tracking disruptors.

Star: I was actually really worried that people wouldn't like the Enyo fleet, but it seems to be a fan favorite, from what I gathered, and that really made me happy. As far as the 3D modelling went, I knew to really step apart from other EVE videos, and to be on the same par as other people who have made some really outstanding products, I had to do something above and beyond. So I hadn't seen someone really do the kind of 3D modelling in EVE, like I had seen examples on EVE, there's a couple examples -

Abis: On Reddit you can see it sometimes.

Star: Yeah, but not to that extent.

Abis: Right.

Star: For example, to get the EVE models and those spin-arounds? You have to try to export it from the client or you can pull it from Python, through Python. Then you take that model and you break it down, you break the mesh down, because when you put it into a 3D model it's actually quite blocky. You need to break it down further, give it more curves, more grooves. Then you need to change the lighting and the texturing and you'll actually see more detail on the model than the EVE client will ever allow you to because you're not rendering in real time. So you can really do a lot. Some of the renderings are really horrendous.

Abis: So it's kinda like a trial-and-error after you first bring it into the program?

Star: Kinda. We knew what we wanted to do and...I'm a little bit of a perfectionist, I keep working, I try to work on something until I'm really satisfied with it. Some of those T3 models are about 10 seconds. To save time, we decided to just do all of them for a 10 second spin and not stretch the actual stuff. It took about 8 to 5 hours to render each of those 10 second little spinnings, to give you an idea. In real time it took 10 hours on a really high-powered processing system to render that up, so for 10 seconds.

Abis: Just the rendering, not even the creation.

Star: Well, the creation's not too hard if you know what you're doing. If you have a basic idea of what you want, how to build it, and just a general enthusiasm for getting it done and working through all the tutorials and things. The water drop falling into the pool and whatnot, that took 36 hours to render out and, like, 3 or 4 tries to get right before we were satisfied with it. The ending wormhole, the T3 flying through the wormhole, took literally 2 days to render out. So you can see how it adds up really quickly.

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