Summer is Here: The Russian Bear Awakens

Avatar
Propaganda is so awesome. The big lies, the big questions, the seeds of doubt and suspicion. Omg omg omg.
Avatar
Spin that yarn!SOLAR is so leet they took all that space Nulli spy sovdropped a while back! Oh wait...
Avatar
yyyyeah. Choosing not to log in and fight the combined supercap fleets of n3/pl/all the people who would dogpile a supercap fight is definitely the same thing as not being able to grind out systems in the drone regions with dreads while N3 fights in fountain.
Avatar
Russians are dead. Stop telling lies pls.
Avatar
Lovely bit of propaganda - and I don't mean that in a bitter condemning the piece as propaganda way - I mean it in a rejoice, here's some great propaganda, glory be to the Eve meta way.It's good example of the "whilst you're over there fighting for your lives hip deep in shit, we're having a great time fucking your sisters back at your home". The tone of the article is great too, it's not over the top and thus easily dismissed, instead it's an unsensational recap of losses on the Eastern front to Russians who are terminator style indestructable. Not a huge loss, because it was taken from the Russians originally, but a loss nevertheless and proof that despite massive martial material N3 can't fight a war on two simultaneous fronts any more than anyone else.Great propaganda isn't lessened by being called out as propaganda because the truly good stuff is based in truth. That's what makes it so effective. It may be propaganda, it's not really spin, but the Russians want their stuff back, and they have most of it already.Only a fool discounts the Russians as a force. They never give up, they fight to the very last woman and child when all the men are long since gone. It's a concept that fat Americans could never understand.
Avatar
But I don't have a sister.
Avatar
Pretty nice write up. Being unsensational and pretty straight to the point. I can see why n3 readers may get a little buttmad as it has no consideration from their perspective but youre a Goon/former solar pet so we cant really blame you for that!+1, would read more of your articles.
Avatar
As a member of one of the "lesser N3 alliances". this article is pretty damn close to what has actually occured...N3 took space from the russians but then utterly failed to completely remove all of the Solar assets and staging points.... Instead they raced headlong into a war on the othe side of Eve and PGL (more like ProGod Wanker if ou ask my alliance mates) was happy to let the home systems of his allies burn while he killed a few goon caracal fleets...Moon after moon fell to Solar, Station systems were attacked and fell in some cases to zero opposition... Alliances screamed for coalition help only to be told: "We'll fix it after this campaign.................."At the end of the day I feel that the N3 direction ought to be: "Test are fail - let them lose their shit before we lose ours!" "Get the hell back home and do what we do best - beat up the Russians"Let's face it... the fountain war could go on for a year without any real gains by either side...but burn your home income and you wont have an income or a home to return to!So is the propoganda working? Hell Yes! "Get back here and take back my effing moons ya bastards!"
Avatar
cry less wtf. Everyone knows if N3 wants Solars space back they will take it and Solar has no chance. Meanwhile Solar needs to alarmclock all ops for 5 am and grind one system by the next, while N3 will just throw supers all around and grind that "progress" back in 2 weeks (if they want to).
Avatar
Replace sister with your favorite fleshlight then.
Avatar
You forgot about explicit alliance too...
Avatar
Problem is a bit more deep than that ... 'if N3 wants Solars space back they will take it and Solar has no chance' - you see ... if TEST/N3/PL/401K/Rest of you guys somehow manage to loose the Fountain war (totally not but let's assume you will for the sake of argument) then SOLAR will be the least of your worries ... just saying ...
Avatar
My biggest takeaway from this: IRC is still a thing, and they are still a nonfactor in everything Eve.Why is IRC still a thing?
Avatar
The problem is that we gave some really stupid people sov in the east. These alliances keeps fucking everything up that can be fucked up. SOLAR can then moonwalk in and steal systems because these alliances keeps doing just about everything wrong. I bet you are a part of one of those alliances that we should just have kicked long time ago for being fucking bad.We knew that SOLAR would take some of it's space back at some point and we have no real problem with that. If we decide that SOLAR would become some kind of major threat we will do what it takes to push them back again.
Avatar
МАСТЕР sends his regards.
Avatar
mother russia is eternal
Avatar
russians all together are actually fielding larger fleets than entire N3 in fountain...you guys are counting on supercap superioty to retake all , but how long will that take without subcap superiority ? will cfc let you ? how long can N3 continuing loosing incomes and fight cfc ? what if cfc attacks in the drones at the same time ? how will you numbers look like after fountain ?you guys are playing a dangerous game...this summer is going to be interesting indeed.
Avatar
and not cleaning the fleshlight after....... You might find it's a little looser too.
Avatar
Way to slap down people you will probably be asking for help later. That sounds like BoB / SirMolle level diplomacy right there. You are now propagandaing for your enemy, grats on batting for the other team.Try to piss off your enemies not your allies. - Sun Tzu PS That's not a real Sun Tzu quote, I made it up,, but he'd probably agree.
Avatar
SOLAR - Come kick the CFC in the nuts and you can have a pick of the spoils. As alliances and corps move around you can take space, have yours back or even have Goon space... infact yea have the goon space.
Avatar
A small insight for the people who still dont know how the CFC works....We can do whatever the fuck we wanne do, Legion of death and Razor are prime examples of this.They follow their own path without interfearance from other coalition leaders.Each CFC alliance member can make their own campaigs if they want to without questions.But when brothers are in need of assistance we all show up for each other.Legion of death dont have to ask permision or whatever to make their own campaing.We are no pets or slaves, most of us follow goons around while others choose to do not, but we are still connected and we still have each others back when dangers is around the corner.The Mittani work very hard to get this down the line and it may sound strange for those (other) coalitions but its the way it is.The only time Goons step in is when things get out of hand and the man on your left side is not holding his shield high enough to protect his brother (300) :PSolar and Legion fighting each other is also strange if you ask me :PI dont know what grudges they have against each other or how deep this goes, i wish Solar and Legion burry their hate and fight PL / N3 as one, but it seems its not yet the time for such friendships ? :)Also the RED Alliance we once knew has long gone and burried, RA is the oldest alliance in Eve to hold SOV.When you look back to the start of Eve they where always there.....That Red massive empire that lived troughed wars where most others perished under massive presure of losses and betrayal.RA seemed to just be that giant not affected by age and time in Eve.But they seem to have lost direction these days...I still don tunderstand why they work together now, the enemy of my enemy is my friend ?Why not a temp truce to fight and claim back lands from a more powerfull enemy ?Crazy Russians :)mad repsect for them tough o/
Avatar
yea explicit has more activity than irc
Avatar
I think he said something along those lines though :)But you are right, try to get along within your own coalition, atleast.Also I am curious how the N3 is led.
Avatar
Out of interest, how many of the new shiny moons are there in The Spire/Drone regions etc.?Might explain a bit more why different entities are focusing in different places.
Avatar
CFC propaganda machine never stops, It is trying to convince N3 to go back home since the start of fountain war. Why do you work this hard, is something bad happening to you in fountain war?
Avatar
Legion of Death are the remnants of the previous occupants of the Drone Regions that Solar Evicted a while back if i recall correctly.Thats probably where the big grudge comes in.
Avatar
Good read, for a propaganda piece of course. It all hinges on the pain threshhold of the N3 entities, as someone who is not deployed I can tell you that while there are worried mumblings from that most humble creature: the man in the spacelane, things at home are not exactly on fire or anything, the pot of grease is just sort of.. smoldering. The timezone gap has so far worked to our advantage allowing us to rep our reenforced crap up while the bear sleeps. There is only so much alarmclocking an entity can take but I gotta say that the russians are pretty scary, even when they are sleepy. Once N3 wrap it up in fountain which will happen eventually SOLAR will be right back to square nothing, so there probably wont be any fail cascades, but people might end up pretty sick of TEST.
Avatar
Food for thought: how hard is it to register a discuss name of N3WarHQ? Why would we register a name like that specifically for a war instead of posting from known leadership names?I'm not a fan of tinfoil but I'm not a fan of gullibility either. The editors of this site might keep things from seeming too biased in the articles but the CFC propaganda people can go hog wild in the comments.Both N3 Fodder and N3WarHQ are likely not in the N3 at all.
Avatar
This "article" should have died on the editing room floor. For shame.
Avatar
zOMG denial :XAlso Just in: CFC isn't taking over fountain fast enough!
Avatar
Solar was just rolled to prove a point. They can have space back, and if the mess up they'll get rolled again.
Avatar
I've always loved the mysterious, dark, unlit happenings of the post Downtime. As an self effaced idiot American, the Russian groups on-goings will ever be beyond my scope. But I think that's a very effective part of EVE's feel that has always intrigued me. When the light of my monitor goes out and I'm done with my personal space pixels. Someone else, from across the world logs in and begins their day in New Eden.Someone who due to a language barrier I will likely never speak to in the game, but who affects my time on the game none the less. I have to admit the solidarity of groups like Solar is amazing to me. I guess that's the cultural difference, my fellow Americans chase dreams of the individual. We laud heroes who achieve personal relevance in the face of adversity, but somehow East of the Baltic I don't think its the same for those who fly when I'm fast asleep.The real world, that is the one where if I were to meet those I call enemies in New Eden, I'd likely buy a beer and share pictures of my family with, becomes increasingly smaller with the passing of each day. 30 years ago having a conversation with MACTEP would land The Mittani in some hot water with something as vague, tasteless and pointless as the House Un-American Committee. And now today alone I've sat down for morning coffee while listening to a conversation between Brit's, Germans, and few Danes and several of my fellow Southern Americans where we all had a bit of a grin and discussed the nature of our Russian Alliance's motives in tones of respect. It's a shame that the world does not mirror the HARPA, where hundreds of people from many a nation can rally around something as inconsequential as a video game, get along and thoroughly enjoy themselves. My apologies for breaking out a sentimental soapbox, in a reply which has little to do with the article itself. I myself look forward to seeing more on goings from the Russian front.
Avatar
"One who's upper and lower ranks have the same desires will be victorious."That's the first one that came to mind for me.
Avatar
Nice try goons, still staying in fountain to kill you badluck.
Avatar
As a PL renter I can say we all received the notifications of theNOB-HD constellation in Outer Passage being SBU'd by Solar about this time 2days ago. As far as I can tell those SBU's are still there.
Avatar
I enjoyed reading your article. If this is your fist time then 10/10 well done.
Avatar
Holy propoganda!
Avatar
300?Dude, you're 30.000, not 300. Don't get us started with those metaphors.
Avatar
Although CFC didn't come to Solar's help when they needed it, Solar has much bigger grudge with those who drove them away from their home.That being said, underneath the surface things are in motion which will greatly affect the political map of New Eden this summer.
Avatar
LOL, apparently you haven;t been to mother Russia lately. Fat drunk and stupid men. The women and children run that country,
Avatar
who ever writing this article have no idea what was going down. check ur facts...The whole solar war was started by Solar Fleet wanting to kick out The Unthinkables becasue they had killed off Cascade Imminent. They started this war to convince -a- to join them as they knew they where all on their own.Most the biggest fights was between INK/GYPSY/DSP/RA vs Solar. N3 cooalition came to back it up as solar where utilizing all their renters/pets. And soon after N3 became the main backbone against solar
Avatar
Reminds me of when IT went to Catch to kill AAA with the Initiative while TEST, the old NC, and Goons invaded Fountain. Complete with intra-coalition turmoil.It can only end well for you.(Hint, might want to move some assets to NPC space or low sec...just in case).
Avatar
See my IT Alliance reference....seems more and more appropriate....
Avatar
They are coming.
Avatar
The question is one simply of "where the war will be decided". Progod said it in his SOTA: N3 exists to fight the CFC. The best and perhaps only way to do it is by opposing the Fountain beachhead alongside Test and PL.Is all of N3's space worth losing to achieve victory against the CFC? Frankly, yes. N3 leadership seems to understand something you don't: victory brings space but space does not bring victory.
Avatar
My facts are pretty solid on this bit your claiming is wrong my friend. It is an overview of how SOLAR came to own the space and how they lost it, not a play by play of every engagement. As it clearly says it was an N3 lead force that laid SOLAR low during the winter, I then go on to state it was a Russian bloc that started fighting SOLAR originally. I appolgise if you are in INK or Darkspawn and upset that I didn't mention you by name but unfortunately this happens alot, bigger players get more lime light.
Avatar
IRC is a dead thing and does not exist outside of a few alts blue-balled in Cobalt Edge and Oasa Stations. Rogue Alliance took over their Sov months ago.
Avatar
SOLAR fights against NCDot/PL way before Cascade Imminent's cascade, from January 2012, or so.
Avatar
FRESH NEWSWicked Princess disbanded ncdot with a spy altcheck dotlan
Avatar
Trading the East for the North might be fine, but it's not like you're going to be swapping regions like baseball cards or something. If you want to invade the north without pacifying the Russians, you're looking at a godawful hell-war that you probably want to win before you homelands burn down on the other end of the galaxy.Just stopping the CFC in Fountain wouldn't be worth losing everything, since that just means you'd be in a worse position to stop their next aggression.
Avatar
Gogo solar fleet, always liked these guys, great bluez once apon a time. N3 terroritory is to vast to control. Solar and friends will continue to harass and the renters will ask for protection at some point or switch landlords.
Avatar
Judging by that 140+man capfleet and a 400+man subcap fleets + others waiting on standby to jump in just incase, that were brought all the way from fountain to defend a X.I.X station in i6-syn from a single solar subcapfleet - N3+pl+test obviously think otherwise.
Avatar
The tactical advantage of taking the spire has already been explained in the article, the moons are of no account in taking the spire. I know what you mean, I'd also like to know what ccp did with the drone regions moons, but they do not seem relevant in this war.

The Eastern Frontier

The Drone Regions have served as a stronghold of the Russians and their rental empires throughout the history of New Eden. The 2012 Drone War between xXDeathXx/Red Alliance/Pandemic Legion/NC. and SOLAR Fleet/Against ALL Authorities/Gypsy Band had left SOLAR Fleet the undisputed master of this frontier. This was the state of play when in the winter of 2012, a N3 lead force including Pandemic Legion, Red Alliance and several smaller groups laid siege to SOLAR Fleet's holdings and laid them low after a prolonged campaign. SOLAR Fleet, however, are no untested alliance that can be broken by simply taking their sovereignty away from them. Falling back and basing out of the NPC station of Konara, they regrouped and waited for the forces aligned against them to splinter.

First to vacate the region would be Pandemic Legion. With their mission complete they quickly established a rental empire of their own in Malpais and departed for a rapid deployment to Delve. Red Alliance and a loose coalition of Russian powers including Gypsy Band, Gorgon Empire and Darkside. had been the catalyst for the assault on SOLAR Fleet. However, during the long months of conflict, Red Alliance had given many of these allies a reason to turn their backs on their Russian brothers. Now, Red Alliance finally had the sovereignty it desired, but had no real allies to back them up. After several embarrassing engagements with SOLAR Fleet they were revealed to be a paper tiger. N3 and several allied groups quickly noticed this fact. No longer brothers in arms against SOLAR Fleet, Red Alliance was literally torn apart by their N3 comrades and their new found holdings were quickly divided up. During this period SOLAR Fleet began minor operations, roaming through rental space causing issues for the locals, attacking the odd undefended tower and making probing attacks on sovereignty timers to test N3's resolve to defend their northernmost holdings.

Call to Arms: Fountain

When N3 declared they would be deploying to Fountain to defend TEST against the CFC's invasion, this opened a window of vulnerability that SOLAR Fleet would surely exploit. During the N3 SOTA prior to the deployment it was stated that alts would be left behind to defend the space, with a backup of slowcat fleets to be used if needed. To many, this bold statement simply did not ring with any truth. Defending against an extremely capable PvP alliance such as SOLAR Fleet, capable of fielding a large supercarrier force, with alts left behind was never going to work.

As soon as the carrier fleets of N3 moved out, carrying with them most of N3's martial might to a foreign war in the west, SOLAR Fleet began to siege their old home region of Cache. Within the week MACTEP, leader of SOLAR Fleet, had reclaimed his throne in the Station System P7-45V, with more holdings to follow. Several N3 Fleets did form to contest timers, and when they were too large to be engaged SOLAR Fleet would simply melt away, allow N3 to roam around killing SBUs and repairing stations uncontested. A few well-timed ambushes of defending Rokh fleets were sprung to reasonably good effect, drawing back N3 slowcat fleets from Fountain to bail out their beleaguered subcaps.

The Fleet Returns

This game of siege-and-repair continued for the first few weeks of June, until N3 seemed to adopt a change of tactics. The Cache region appears to have been completely written off, with NC. losing two stations, WhySoSerious another and Pangu a fourth, all almost uncontested and lost in a matter of days. Cache now stands divided between the Russians of SOLAR Fleet, Red Alliance, and xXDeathXx. Rumors of an arrangement between SOLAR and Red Alliance have been thrown around, but I cannot confirm or expand upon this hearsay at this time. The CFC-aligned Russians of xXDeathXx, however, have been engaged in constant skirmishes with SOLAR Fleet in Cache, a somewhat curious situation considering their links with Goons and the CFC. Surely slowing down SOLAR siege operations against N3 is directly working against the better interests of their allies? Should they not be working with SOLAR Fleet to put as much pressure on N3 in the Drone Regions as possible? Apparently old grudges between these two groups remain, and since the Mittani has publicly announced in a State of the Goonion that he has no real desire to meddle in the internal affairs of Russians, I doubt they will be asked to get along.

Onwards Comrades, reclaim the Motherland!

With Cache purged of dirty capitalists, the SOLAR war machine has begun to siege the Spire. The Drone Regions have an odd celestial positioning, with regions stacked upon one another more than is common in New Eden. At the heart of this configuration lies the aptly named Spire. This unique setup allows SOLAR Fleet dreadnoughts basing from 1I5-0V to hit no less than nine target regions without a midpoint, with a good coverage of five of them. When you are trying to stop dreadnoughts, it is all about timing. Over in the west Goonswarm dreadnoughts must undock and jump to a midpoint, wait several minutes while they cap up and then jump onto their target. This extra time is extremely important for anyone wishing to drop on those dreadnoughts while they are vulnerable. In contrast, the SOLAR Fleet dreadnoughts can undock, jump, and siege, taking no more than five minutes from the start of the op to extraction. The ease of operations for these dreadnoughts has yielded 68 N3 and N3/PL renter towers destroyed since the beginning of June, with no dreads lost in action. Add to this all the SBUs SOLAR Fleet has destroyed and the stations and ihubs they have reinforced, and you have significant gains for the Russians.

Drop all the TCUs!

When S2N Citizens disbanded and sovereignty was dropped across the drone regions, SOLAR Fleet attempted to snatch up vast amounts of space with a rapid TCU dropping campaign. This failed miserably when several supercapital fleets from N3, NC. and PL returned to the region. In a night of impressive resilience they brought the situation under control. SOLAR Fleet wisely made no attempt to contest this operation, since there was little that could be done against the combined supercapital forces. SOLAR also clearly understood that the sooner things went back to normal, the sooner the N3 supers would return to Fountain and SOLAR could get back to business in the Spire.

State of Play

The defence of the N3 Drone Regions appears to rest in the hands of smaller N3 groups like WhySoSerious, Darkspawn and Cult of War, with some questionable assistance from IRC. It is the opinion of this writer that this task is far beyond them, even if they had to deal with SOLAR Fleet alone. But in Wicked Creek/Scalding Pass, an alliance of Gorgon Empire and Red Alliance appears to be giving Darkspawn more than enough trouble, so that they are unlikely to be able to assist their allies. Recently, a WhySoSerious Dominix fleet attempted to engage SOLAR Fleet with a predictable ending, raising the question of how much pain these smaller N3 groups can take before they break. And for that matter, how much of the drone regions are N3 willing to lose while they fight the CFC in Fountain?

Gilles Navarien
Director of Specter Syndicate in Tactical Narcotics Team and a EuroGoon. I enjoy following the ebb and flow of conflict narratives all across EVE and examining events that cause the rise and fall of alliances.