New Eden Behind the Great Firewall

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Any follow ups on any of this?
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For those who interested in battles in Serenity, here is a killboard contributed by TQ players: http://killboard.nl/en/
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And this is a battle report of a massive fight happened few days ago: http://killboard.nl/en/?a=kill...
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Yes, kinda alike tournaments. No, they dont have. No.
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Why do the Chinese lag in expansions? I know for world of warcraft the government has to approve everything but eve updates are all mechanics.
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Doesn't sound like a high percentage of thaat 60k would be worth anything in a fight.
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How many stations are there in Null systems? Do they build several per system? Is there a higher mix of stations since they actually do industry in Null?
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Huh. Easier to navigate in Null. But now that I think about it, it makes sense. HED-GP is HED-GP, but is Rens 人死,人丝,仁斯,人斯,热恩思.
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It sounds almost like it would in English (depending on how you think 'Jita' is supposed to be pronounced): Gee-TaNot proper pinyin, but there you go.
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I guess CCP is constantly running into new and hilarious bugs where their old and undocumented code is not ready to deal with chinese characters.
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There is a one station per system limit in null. Just like on TQ. This is one of the problems with null industry.
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A lot more players. And those players have to give everything to the alliance. It shows null would work in it's current state if the playerbase would take a 100% tax rate, give alll their rat loot to be reprocessed or redistributed and only take what the alliance specifically allows them.
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Wow, no caps let alone super caps.
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You have my sword.
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...and my ax.
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Nice article. As others have said, it's nice to get this perspective on the Chinese server from someone who has some proper insight into the language and culture. If CEVE didn't require a government ID to play I'd love to do it as the most awesome way I can think of to learn and practice the language.
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"Surprisingly, botting in Serenity is not widespread or attractive"--------------------------RMT in Serenity is open without any penalties. $3.5/1B isk is the current ratio on the rmt websites. And there are thousands botters in Serenity ratting/mining 23/4 to supply the need of isk.Due the strict ban policy on TQ, most of the isk sellers in china prefer to work on Serenity with a smoother/stable income.
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Was already invaded, very long history about that.
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The issue isn't the money it's the actual ships. Inflation is widespread, from what I've heard. There is basically no T2, due to the high prices and null-sec castle ideologies. Most T2 is by low-sec rich Pirates.
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Just confirm that the rmt volume on serenity is at least 15 trillion isk per month, according to the transaction history from the biggest rmt website. They doing it legitimately.
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its because the goverment has to approve of everything that could have the capabilitys for free speach and multinational interaction
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Fixes:*23/7*Due to
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indeed, but that's something i'll get to in the next article, which has a overview of the market and what we can learn from there.
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This was actually attempted at one time. While it is possible for a non-chinese player to gain an account on the server, it's not a simple process. Additionally the whole idea of completely starting over is...well not appealing to a lot of people.Although it would certainly be an epic experience.
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I lived in China for some 4+ years, opened eve (TQ) account while being there, and played without any problem. I believe most of Chinese guys play Serenity because of the language and their interest to interact between themselves.
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Fascinating read, when can we invade and destroy everything they hold dear?
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Actually i don't play on serenity, just a 14 day space vacation in another galaxy, and posting the differences that are easily observable. Do note that internet Chinese is only slightly less separated from conversational Chinese as Kitteh is to the English that normal people speak.
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Any idea why Jita? Was it a natural confluence, or did players just go to Jita because that's where the hub is expected to be (assuming some critical mass of Chinese EVE players are aware of Tranquility hubs)?
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Soooo eve industry would work if we were communists?
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Pangu Coalition are Chinese players on TQ
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Expect to battle wave after wave after wave of t1 frigates and cruisers. All hail the Chinese Human Wave.
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Still, I think their idea of 'self-sufficiency' is something we can take home.
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The nullsec is more boring than the author stated. In fact, there are only three forces in Serenity, PIBC+FDK+JA, TGA+CPE, RAC+COA, Each of the forces remained as one for years. Due to the wide gap for the jump, the war for sovereignty will only happen between PIBC and TGA or TGA and RAC. So if the TGA is in danger, the other force will not remain silence - you know why. Kind of the Three Kingdoms in Chinese history.
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Too much carebearing over there. How do we invade it? and who's with me? lol
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Most facinating part: Jita 4-4 became the major trade hub, again.
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Is the subscription cost of TQ a barrier also?
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So Chinese players are buying over $50,000 worth of ISK per month. Interesting. Who buys it, in general, and what does it get spent on?
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I think it would be interesting to see the difference in the metagame as well as differences in fittings. Crazy seeing it all from another perspective!
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Caldari is the dumbest race to fly, that's why. Missiles are the dumbest weapon system. Add to that the only effective active tanking and the cheapest to repair passive tanking and there you go.
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my falcon disapproves...so does my drakeyou seem mad a.o. mentally retarded or just really stupid.every race has its up and downside . thats why you have different races in this game. maybe go back to World of Warcraft as EvE seems to complex to you
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Who puts their pot noodles on their notebook. Honestly, what kind of world do we live in here right now?!!?
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Great article. Looking at that killboard you can also see the high tank low gank fits on those ships. Some of them seem to be IRC applicants with their arty abaddon and quadruple plated typhoons.
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Ive got an account on Serenity that I have had for just over 2 years rarely ever log into it anymore though but when I did there was so many Ratters I could kill in Null sec it was crazy half of them dont even seem to bother watching local, hell I got like 45 kills in a 8 hour session in Null sec
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Please more, this is really fascinating to me. Cant wait for follow up piece to this.
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Then they should just all join PANGU bros :) Besides, language barrier is something that happens for many groups in eve, at the worst it would mean they got to work on their english!
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guess what's coming in 2 days :D (editors permitting)
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1 billion in serenity is about 4.5 USD
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most interesting storry i have sean here since the start of this blog page!
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That was an extremely interesting article, thank you very much! I had no idea how Serenity looked like! More of this please!
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One of EVE’s primary draws is that every player, from the lowest veldspar mining newbie, to the leaders of coalitions, all play in the same sandbox galaxy (that is, the Tranquility server). However, that’s not a completely true statement; there exists another EVE Realm, named “Serenity”, that hosts the Chinese playerbase of EVE.

A few background facts: the Chinese Ministry of Culture requires every foreign MMO to establish a contract with a domestic company to host and maintain the game. In addition, the creation of a game account on Chinese realms requires a Chinese government-issued ID and service to non-Chinese servers for some MMO’s are blocked. 

Luckily, EVE Online is not one of the blocked MMOs; if you find yourself in China for some reason or another, you can happily log on to Tranquility to set skills, manage markets and PI, and even fight; the latency from China (in my experience) averaged 500ms or so: not optimal for most games, but enough for EVE.

 


(Chinese airport internet, EVE, and Ramen)

Looking at Serenity is like looking at an identical twin separated at birth; you see obvious similarities, as well as possibilities of what Tranquility could have become. Without further ado, let’s jump into examining the world of Serenity.

Nullsec

One of the most common complaints about nullsec today is that everyone is blue to everyone else; complaints of big blobs in null, NAPs, NIPs, and having to make 50 jumps to find someone not blue to shoot. With that in mind, here’s what null-sec Serenity looks like.


(courtesy of the ever awesome Verite, http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/VeriteChina/Cinfluence.png)

And here are the member counts of those alliances.

 


(Alliances on Serenity, ranked by member count)

Forget having only blues for 50 jumps, they are in their own alliance's space for 50 jumps. While the Serenity server is somewhat smaller than Tranquility, with max log-in capping at 16000 (more on this later), the lack of fragmentation is profound. Speaking as a Chinese immigrant, the Chinese culture and mentality places more emphasis on stability and loyalty than “the West."

The nullsec alliances recruit openly from highsec, looking for people to bolster their ranks as happens on Tranquility. Recruitment, however, is not necessarily focused towards PVPers for line combat, but towards ratters, the primary source of alliance income. From there, a player moves up in the alliance hierarchy, his every need fulfilled by other members of the alliance. With their immense size, many services are internalized; ships are built within null-sec or the adjacent empire areas instead of being shipped in from the trade hub (yes, there is only one true trade hub in Serenity). The alliance market hubs within null-sec are much more active than even VFK or 6VDT and players are expected to hand over low grade ratting loot to be reprocessed into ships for the alliance hangers. It’s very much a cradle to grave experience, with loyalty and participation being somewhat valued more than competence. My cousin notes, with some humor, that this closely mirrors the experience of joining the communist party and bureaucracy.

As stated above, ratters comprise the bulk of the alliance member counts and provide the majority of the alliance income, far above and beyond PI or moon minerals. As such, here is the heat map of rat kills on Serenity.

 


With nullsec recruitment being more open, and even more alliance space to buffer ratters from gankers, Serenity null ratting is a larger percentage of total rat kills, with Dekelin and Fountain both having more NPC kills than any region outside of Caldari Highsec. Surprisingly, botting in Serenity is not widespread or attractive, as the major alliances see no need to bot when legions of alliance ratters are willing to play for hours to earn ISK.

Trade Hubs

We all know that EVE’s trade hubs (Jita, Amarr, Rens, Dodoxie, and Hek) developed naturally from player interactions, rather than developer placement as in other MMOs. When Serenity was deployed, CCP was quite curious to see where the trade hubs of Serenity would develop, as well as the scale of those hubs. The answer was revealed within 6 months from the start of the server.

 


(Serenity server, pilots docked in station)

Yep, it was Jita. When Serenity was introduced, Jita was released in its original form, with agents and asteroid belts. In no time at all, traffic forced the removal of these agents and belts.

 


(Jita 4-4 undock)

Funny enough, Jita 4-4 Caldari Navy Assembly Plant carried over as the most trafficked station in all of EVE. Featuring massive numbers of ships on the undock, Tornados camped behind the station, and spammers in local, it feels just like home. Venture out of Jita, however, and the market situation is much different. The system with the second most docked pilots is Couster, with 85 docked pilots. Dodixie, Rens, and Amarr are all as empty as our lowsec, with a grand total of 2 in local when I visited Amarr; Dodixie was primarily used as a mission hub, and I couldn’t actually find Rens. The Chinese love for centralization and stability appears to have struck again; everyone goes to Jita because they can find the best prices there.

The mission runners I talked to in Amarr, Gallente, and Minmatar space reported that they either ship their loot to Jita, or sell them to the nullsec alliance buy orders at border stations. A similar situation on TQ would be if the CFC posted buy orders for stuff at Torrinos and mission runners in Lonetrek sold to those. The self-sufficiency of nullsec alliances also comes into play here, as they have less need to voyage into high-sec to purchase goods.

While the undock is the same, once you get nice and comfy inside the station, you will find the markets are dramatically different from ours. Those differences seem to indicate telling differences between the way pilots behave on Tranquility and Serenity, a topic which will be explored later.

Perpetually broke pilot of Goonswarm. Will shill for isk.