How Eve Online Secured Planetside 2's Future

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The only issue I have with Planetside 2 is that despite decent hardware and turning off ALL the things...I still can't get a decent framerate! My FPS is so bad as to make the game unplayable. Of course, it doesn't help that my computer is at least 4 generations behind current tech. >_<Meanwhile I can play EVE on all highs. *sigh*
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I play PS2 with everything on high/default and no FPS issues. and I've had this one for err at least 4 years.
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then buy a new PC theneve is a very low game, for a gaming pc so, that why.
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I have had mine for 3, can run all modern games on max like Skyrim, GTA:IV, Crysis etc etc. Even Supreme Commander: FA, a notorious 2005 CPU assailant. In-fight FPS on low settings for PS2: 10-15.It's definitely the game.
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For me, I had to hang my pride at the door and play on a lower resolution. Jumped my 20 fps.
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My PC is pretty old, but I can play almost every recently released game on at least decent settings with a respectable framerate. I can play Planetside 2 on all low at like 5-10 FPS, it's ridiculous, and it's definitely at least partially the game's fault.
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...indeed. my laptop is a two year old mid range (£1000ish) thats only issue is the amount of heat it kicks out when playing a game like planetside, it is happily able to play the game itself so long as i keep a fan on the thing ;p
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It sounds like you already have a fair GPU if you can play EVE on high; this game is differently optimised due to the insane amount of things going on during a large battle. In some cases (if you have a GPU better or atleast on par with your CPU) turning the graphics UP can increase fps. Putting settings on low just offloads stuff from your GPU to your CPU and if you have a shitty CPU already, it just worsens things. Play around with the settings and maybe even take a look at your useroptions.ini to change some other stuff. Failing that upgrading your processor would definitely be the best option.
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There's this thing called money that I don't have enough of to spend on a new computer.
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Very funny. I even forgot to laugh.
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...So Planetside 2 is weird like ArmA 2 is? Blugh. For the record, my hardware is as follows: Intel Core 2 Duo E6750, 6GB DDR2, 2x nVidia GTS 250 in SLI. CPU's a LGA775 and the few that are on the market cost about as much as a brand-new LGA2011 CPU.
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Strange this about EVE is that it works poorly with my computer, yet I can play Crysis and World of Tanks without issue. Something weird about AMD and the Ati on my computer that's not working well with it right now. Probably a sign to take a break from EVE and play something else.
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"How Eve Online Secured Planetside 2's Future"? Because DUST514 is horrible.
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I do like the commitments SOE seem to be making and I can't wait to see whats achieved, the news of the empire specific rocket launchers has me hoping and wishing for my NC TVMissiles again, I loved that shit.The first PS1 mechanic I want to see them get back into Planetside 2 asap is that god damn LLUThe rush of grabbing that and getting it back to the a joining base that was CTF on steroids.As for optimisations on a 670 im getting better average FPS forcing Ultra settings with lighting and shadows on high then I was on the default and high settings. Weird.
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Lol I have been saying this forever.Releasing only on PS3 for Dust was the knife in the heart for Dust and maybe even Eve. Sony will get to look at exactly how to make a better Eve.Eve was a major challenge to build in 02-03 but now is completely possible. And the genious`s at CCP go to there biggest competition and hand them access to there Code etc, sure they cant steal code by trademark but they sure can make a similar one and perfect it.Would have been smarter going to Msoft [as much as I hate the idea] but an even better idea would have been to release it on PC first.Now as you said PS2 will simply copy the format of a Space game with lie`s cheating and stealing and the best part, no teething issues or growing pain`s, they will make a massive dominate game right out of the gates thanks to CCP, and as for us Devoted Eve fans who are getting less enchanted by 3 major power Blocks......Why not just player a faster non-TiDi version that has 3 major power blocks already and is much more akin to our humanity and RL....Eve used to be a bastion of many powers, but now its basically down to CFC [Tec cartel] HBC [PL] conquerors with huge hoards of Newbs at some of the best FC`s/tactical minds in game and the Russain Block in SOLAR who is being closed in on and will be replaced by Xdeath once more IMO.So if we cant spread the wealth and create more, fighting in manageable sizes like the older days with 500 men being a major fight, im afraid we will always play the numbers arms race, and if there will never be more than 3 major Blocks, Might as well play a game where there is literally only 3 Choices.They wanted to see how a major game that was integrated worked, and they didnt keep us Eve people in the loop by releasing it to PC, instead they get a massive crowd with a game that already pioneered massive FPS, while us true Eve fans have to buy a Play Station just to play our other half of Eve, and lets be honest how many 16 yr olds will wait till 3 am there time and get blue balled on a timer over and over?When I play my 360 its to get away from me logging into Eve and requiring a 1.5 hour minimum, they made a massive mistake.......Eve is dying and as sad as I am to see it go as its literally part of me, I played it through my real life War, College, and now my new career, I will just have to settle with MWO and PS2 becoming everything Eve could have been. Im still sad as hell.Very good article, I am a natural enemy of GSF ingame and always have been for the last 5 years, but damned if you dont pull some great articles Mittens
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All I saw here was :tinfoil:
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Sorry, but "4 generations behind" does not equal "decent hardware".
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Smedley will figure some way to smother it with stupid sauce. I've played EQ long enough to know that one deep in my bones.FYI: my avatar on Disqus is from EQ. The weapon is a Spear of Fate - the shaman epic. The goblin illusion came from Thuuga Dengible in FM while doing the shaman cudgel series.
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I'm not whining about FPS. I just can't play the game. vOv
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Be careful. I actually fried my 2 year old HP laptop playing Planetside 2. The GPU, or part of the motherboard is toast. It wont turn on for more than one or two mins. :-(
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One of the worst articles to-date on TM. I stopped caring what you said after it became clear the post was devoid of content; theory based upon assumption with no qualification for either.Your grammar is also sorely in need of some work.As for the game, it is good, but has massive performance issues. It is CPU bound, heavily so, but does not make use of CPU power (mine is CPU bound and never breaks 50% usage or kicks in the fan, others report the same).If they manage to tweak the engine such that it will use the CPU properly (this is part of a rumoured fix) then a lot of the people upgrading now to play it acceptably would not have needed to.It left beta too early.
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PS2 is a total blast! The fluid combat is just spot on for me and the ability to deploy where ever keeps the action at a frantic pace. Damn I need to log into EVE, I think my skill Q's empty..
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It is an opinionated article as it was meant that way, not a scientific essay. I don't work for SOE to know exactly what's going on over there and I can't look into the future. Can you?There is more than zero ground for the predictions I'm making though. I suggest you check some of the numerous Q&A sessions you can find around to get an idea where my opinion is coming from. Like this one for instance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...Or this one that clearly shows the vision of SOE and the influence of Eve: http://themittani.com/features...Tons of more of these articles can be found.As for grammar errors, I'm not native English but the editors of this site are, so please specify which errors slipped through and I will have them fixed.
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"So why am I so sure about this? Because looking at it from a business point of view, this all makes perfectly sense"You're basically saying you think you're right because you think you're right (both theories are internal)."Best way to do it? Let them decide"Says.. who? If you took the majority vote on Eve's development most players would want it completely risk free, it's the developers that develop the game, whilst keeping a keen eye on player feedback. In CCP's case they have the CSM, which is pretty much a deliberate attempt to filter what CCP gets from the player-base."Why is SOE (Sony Online Entertainment) paying so much attention to Eve Online? Because that universe has become the endless money making machine they are aiming for with Planetside 2"Assumption: SOE are paying attention to eve onlineAssumption2: Because it is a premier business modelNeither of these are demonstrably true. Eve has been flat-lining for nearly 2 years now, and a company needs growth. That's kinda what Dust is all about."It has become the money printing perpetual motion machine that is the wet dream of every game developer and SOE would die for this"Hardly. PS2's model is microtransactions, which show a completely different relationship with the players and how they spend money on the game. You actually couldn't have picked a worse example (F2P/microtransactions vs static subscription).It's also nothing to 'dream of' when the business model SOE uses has much more revenue potential; a lot of players will drop a lot more than $15 a month, and being F2P means you have no barrier-to-entry stopping these people being 'tested' (as it were) as customers.It's basically conjecture built on your own suppositions, which is fine, but should be written as such, and not titled "HOW EVE ONLINE SECURED PLANETSIDE 2'S FUTURE" [inferred factual piece.]Fair enough on the grammar issues, there are too many to list here but the comment was actually aimed at the editors of this piece and not your writing.
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none of the games you mentioned are THAT intensive for modern games. Even Crysis, which was considered to be one of the most demanding games a while ago is tame by modern standards
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I could solid counter-argue every single issue you bring up above but that would defeat the idea of this article: There's is really no point in dissecting every sentence of an article for scientific facts when that article is clearly meant as an entertaining opinionated read with a lot of irony in it. If you fail to see that, I'm sorry.
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Funny part of it all, SOE Is not directly tied to Sony itself, its an entirely separate entity that shares a name. So for example Playstation and Playstation network have no affiliation with SOE other than DC Universe runs on PS3......lol so that part of the story is false.Now for the drive, and dream of becoming like EVE I can see but still has no ties to Sony aka SCEA for PS3 and Dust 514
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While part of this is true, PS3 games (DCUO in SOE's Case) are obviously effected when PSN was down, SOE took their games (MMO Games on PC) down for 1 almost 2 weeks to ensure their systems were secure. However they weren't down even half as long as PSN was down. Based on the PSN assumption your statement otherwise is false. SOE is a separate entity from Sony / SCEA. I know this because I work there :)
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It should be pointed out that many recently released games are developed for 8-years old console hardware, which isn't hard to emulate on PCs at this point. Planetside 2 is a purebreed PC game and the fact it even runs as well as it does is some sort of technical miracle anyway - but sure it could do with optimizing.
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Now, give us a list of MMOFPS that you play.
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Are you talking about Crysis or Crysis 2 or 3? Because those 2 last titles need some high-end machines to run really well. Even though Crysis 2 and 3 need more than average machines, PlanetSide 2 is way too different from Crysis mechanics. You'll be on fight with like 16 people when playing Crysis 2/3, at PlanetSide 2 you'll be fighting on a single point of the map where there's like 400 guys. MMOFPS demand way more than FPS, because of huge maps and lots of players, not to say about the very detailed stuff.I love Crysis series and also PlanetSide 2, but they're on a different way.

The painful road for veterans

With Planetside 2 launched now, it's fair to say that the road towards release has been a hell of a ride. And that's not only because it was preceded by a real beta that saw player feedback causing drastic changes to the game play. All along the way, there has also been major discussion within Planetside 1 veterans who feel that their beloved game has been dumbed down into oblivion. This article addresses the future of Planetside 2 and why Eve Online is the key for these disappointed veterans to stop worrying.

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It’s the gunplay, stupid

The main reason why Planetside 1 veterans can cheer up is that they will mostly get what they want over time. If you check the many developer commentaries and Q&A sessions, things should start to make a lot more sense, especially when you read between the lines:

The whole idea of Planetside 2 has always been to release a Battlefield 3 on crack and then turn it into a Planetside 1 on steroids over time.

Until now, the focus of Planetside 2 has been to make it attractive enough for the casual masses by providing solid fps mechanics on an epic scale. And in that, most critics and fans alike agree they have succeeded. Once you know your way around, this game already becomes very addictive, especially when you team up with others. Some issues aside, Planetside 2 in its current state is quite the technical achievement as it can host massive battles while keeping the frame rates respectable and still provide a good looking environment and solid gun mechanics.

So now they have the basics in place that should hopefully keep the Station Cash pouring in and the offices running.  From now on, you can expect the developers to gradually add many of the mechanics to the game that made Planetside 1 such an engaging experience. Of course one must have a bit of patience and not everything will come in the same format as Planetside 1. I'm pretty sure though that if this game becomes a long term success, it will end up a lot more hardcore than most veterans could ever wish for.

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Sony’s evil master plan

So why am I so sure about this? Because looking at it from a business point of view, this all makes perfectly sense. You develop and release a rather basic game (you should probably compare this release with Minecraft alpha), that is attractive enough to a wide amount of players to keep the studio staffed. From there on, you become the pusher man by creating and improving features/content that keep your players interested and make them even more addicted to the game. Best way to do it? Let them decide. And if you do this well enough? Voilá , you've just created an endless running, money making, machine.

Why is SOE (Sony Online Entertainment) paying so much attention to Eve Online? Because that universe has become the endless money making machine they are aiming for with Planetside 2.

Eve's player base has become insanely attached to the game over the years and their numbers keep growing. That is because the game keeps improving and they decide the game play. Their addiction keeps the CCP offices staffed year over year. It has become the money printing perpetual motion machine that is the wet dream of every game developer and SOE would die for this. This is why they teamed up with the Eve Online universe to release Dust 514. This is why they developed this player based content system, Player Studio, to be released within all of their free-to-play games, including Planetside 2. And this is also the very reason Planetside 1 veterans should never have to worry. As long as this game is paying for itself, they will get the stuff they love.             

SOE's CEO John Smedley is clearly having a blast in his Eve space ship, as Planetside and Eve Online share the same vision: By giving us control they want to make us MMO junkies for the rest of our lives. And guess what? We don’t mind at all.