The Dinner Squadron

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I forgot about this. How's The Dinner Squadron doing?
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Pretty sure they'll have a hard time dealing with the russians in stain and collapse. They lost all the heavy hitters and most of the remaining alliances are carebears/pets the HBC put here to have someone hold the space. I'd like to be surprised, but I'm pretty sure I won't.And by the way, Nullsec is far from being quad polar, even if they stabilize, since Test is a lot less relevant without PL FCs, having a hard time holding on as a pole, and Solar isn't really in shape to be accounted as one right now.
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Walltreipers remain as the Spartans of the South. I wish they would join the CFC, but I fear that would be like Leonidas teaming up with Xerxes to take on the Latins and Celts.
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Carebears from all over ther map, unite!
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Jesus what a shitty name.
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DON'T DISRESPECT THE COLONEL PHREEZE'S CREATIVE NAMING ABILITIES LIKE THAT, NAMELESS PUBLORD POSTER #462
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At least it's not a dot alliance.
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The Dinner Squadron is an old joke in the Rogue/Wraith Squadron series of books from Star Wars. I like it.
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Did they not know they named their "Confederacy" after a bad Corp?http://eve.battleclinic.com/ki...
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Pretty sure the Dotbros were the intended fourth in that quartet...
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#271, actually
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The russians are more of a harassment as a real threat. they didnt tried a serious go for sov yet. I cant evaluate whether TDS can withstand a russian invasion but the current harassment of russians wont determine a full collapse.
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I'm wondering if TDS is going to be upholding OTEC or ignoring it because HBC signed it and not TDS
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You have literally no idea what you are talking about
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I like the way The Mittani phrased it: "The Shitpile of Alliances Montolio gathered around himself"
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the WHO THE FUCK ARE WE coalition
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Oh for god sake we are not calling ourself the Dinner Squadron. It makes me want to take my own space
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"You won't see us declaring 'war' over any perceived slights"Isn't this literally what sort dragon did to cause the HBC to implode in this first place? This whole chain of events is like the fucking awful nerd spaceship version of a ridiculous mexican soap opera where all the giant tits have been replaced by neckbeards .
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And TEST has a Star Wars gimmick on now.If you don't understand the south at this point, it's basically star wars.
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"Publord Poster" #272?
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What a phenomenal collection of no-name and half-dead alliances they've gathered there. I can only assume they'll collapse in a spectacular implosion of people screaming "NOT IN THE FACE! NOT IN THE FACE!" if they're ever seriously invaded.
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The HBC is not dead because TEST left. Thats ridiculous. What a bunch of tripe. We havn't lost space, we havn't experienced failure cascade, and today is the first time I've heard of "The Dinner Squadron."TRIBE drama is because of TRIBE. Maybe if they took their heads out of their asses there wouldn't be a problem. They left because they need to ride TESTs nuts closely, because in Period Basis you better be friendly with Delve and Querious. The TRIBE/Unclaimed drama is just an excuse for theme to bow out graceously to cover up the dick sucking thats really going on. The Russians? Please. The Russians chest beat about how they would rise up in winter and take back everything they didn't bother defending. Now they're desperately trying to seem relevant while they lose ships they no longer can afford to replace. The Russians make us stronger because they provide content. N3 makes us stronger because they provide content, and TRIBE/TEST make use stronger because they provide content.The premise that there must be some strong central management in charge to make an organization effective is false. If anything, strong central management has been the downfall of groups in the past. Be it because someone gets burned out, their ego overtakes their sense of place, or whatever else.TLDR: Whatever you want to call us, we're still here, we're not upset, and we're not failure cascading. Actually, we're doing quite well, and we're working together beautifully.
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Internet spaceship pontif DaiTengu chimes in with his learned opinions~
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otec will soon be dead
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Has Disney bought TEST and The Dinner Squadron then? I'll keep an eye out for Mickey Mouse.
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Love this comment.
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Who is left in the HBC without Tribe, Test, Raiden and now the 301 alliances that make up TDS?
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OTEC exist(ed) between sov holding alliances outside the coalitions. NC. and EVOKE prior to their eviction from tribute and vale were part of OTEC yet they never were part of CFC.
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At least this few Alliances can play finally without Shitloards like TEST, TRIBE, OOS and all that ballast stuff from the ex HBC.But the Name.... Jesus Christ.
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Fuck, can't we keep this nerdy as fuck game slightly less nerdy by not including star wars references? I'm prettysure i spray midiclorians on my garden to kill bug.
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I'm bookmarking this, and I'll reply again when it inevitably happens.
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We wait with abated breath, self important internet poster.
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"much as the departure of the United States would kill NATO"narrow minded, uneducated american at work here, move along folks, nothing to see.
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As long as you like sweetheart.
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Darkness of dispair or whatever they're called seem to be seizing a ton of moons judging by the amount of tower mails they're putting up
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Should be called Not One Inch.
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The game is played by and controlled by mega-nerds, making the game a giant ball of nerd-dom larger than any Katamari that little guy has ever rolled up. Adding slightly more nerd doesn't change things. It's like adding water into an ocean.
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Damn you Phreeze. It was supposed to be Donner Party.
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Go on...
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all death to cha ching
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Is "harassment" the the collective for russians?Like a hug of carebears? Or a shambling of zombies?
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Maybe the should call it the Donner party
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(...)much as the departure of the United States would kill NATO(...)ROFL.Maybe with TEST and HBC. Butt US and NATO? You US and A-citizens are so over-self-glorifying. USAFAILagain
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Someone needs to make an alliance called "Ellipsis.".
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To be fair, if the United States left NATO it probably would not kill it. It would just make it pointless.And there is one single reason for this: Carriers.America has more carriers then the rest of the world combined. And the power of a carrier is immense. (USA: 10 in service and two in reserve, closest to that is Italy with two in service and 0 in reserve. Total non-American carriers: 10. Total American carriers: 12)They also spend more money on there military then the next 10 countries combined.So ye, if USA left NATO, it would pretty much die.And no, I'm not an American. Quite far from it.
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Haters gonna hate =/
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Carrier matter when you are attacking a 3rd world country like iraq. They don't matter against anyone serious. Also considering that it's the US attacking all kinds of countries the only thing that would happen if they pulled out of NATO is that European troops would not have anywhere to go and could thus stay at home where they belong.I'm sure that afghanis or whoever can murder each other perfectly fine even without our help.
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Carriers do actually matter quite a bit mate. Sure they are nothing against other things that we have, like nukes... But when it comes to being able to deliver a ton of firepower very quickly to pretty much anywhere in the world, they are quite awesome, that is when you don't want to nuke the target. They work as an extension of the country they operate under. And seeing as most/all of the conflicts that NATO are involved with at the moment is against 3rd world countries mainly, they have a big use.
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Honey Badger was just as shitty
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Thank you, MJD. I was quite surprised to read that supposedly that's what we're calling ourselves. Surprised, annoyed and embarrassed. Not that "Honey Badgers" made a crap ton of sense, either...
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Yea. They matter for all the minutes it takes for Russian Sunburn missile to blow them to bits. After that you have a very good ground for fish to grow and have fun at.They are useful about more or less defenceless countries. Against advanced opponents they are waste of money. It's true that US is probably not stupid enough to attack someone competent but even incompetent countries might get their hands on something real.As someone else pointed with US out there is a good chance Russia would get in to both EU and NATO (that would probably get renamed). I'm fairly sure that last thing US wants to see is united Europe with it's own nukes (what UK and france have can not be compared to what Russia and US have).
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What did US do? Bomb a bunch of Serbian civilians. Then create a whole shit of mess with the kosovo thing? Way to go. Legalising every nut that wants his own country. (fortunately enough most countries have not recognised that shit so that's something good at least).After all I'm sure that US would not mind if say texas broke away and formed it's own country...

The HBC (Honey Badger Coalition) is dead. As it was originally created, the HBC was a community with a herd type mentality, rather than a rigid military style command structure. As the HBC grew by leaps and bounds to encompass most of the south, an attempt was made to bring the HBC more into line with a traditional coalition, with a central command structure under the leadership of Sort Dragon following Montolio’s meltdown. They never successfully made that transition, as tensions between TEST and Pandemic Legion causing Sort Dragon to reset PL’s blue standings in the coalition after certain PL pilots decided to shoot blues over a diplomatic incident. This resulted in Sort Dragon leaving PL and going to his alliance, Here Be Dragons, to lead the HBC.

Sort Dragon had barely moved into his metaphorical office when an incident occurred at FanFest. Insults were hurled, the honors of ladies insulted, and gauntlets thrown down. Sort Dragon declared that the HBC would go to war with N3, specifically Nulli Secunda, in an announcement that used much of the same language that the deposed Montolio had used. This backfired, as there were several entities in the HBC that opposed this plan.

TEST alliance withdrew from the HBC following some threats from Sort Dragon on what would happen if they did not toe the party line. Those threats included removing TEST leadership and replacing them with people more loyal to Sort Dragon, which is about as absurd as the tail wagging the dog. In addition, according Phreeze, there were some issues regarding Unclaimed and Tribal Band that came to a head, as well as Raiden “fucking off to parts unknown.”

The departure of TEST killed the HBC, much as the departure of the United States would kill NATO. All the other issues were just icing on the proverbial cake. It is not totally clear how the internal power struggles occurred, but a new group has emerged in the southeast: The Dinner Squadron.

We talked to Phreeze, the self described “informal diplomat of sorts” of the new The Dinner Squadron (TDS) to find out just what the political landscape of the southeast looks like. Much thanks to him for talking to us.

The Dinner Squadron is organized more along the lines of a community or confederacy of blues, with each member alliance working together for common defense. This is probably all TDS can do at this point until they get situated. Offensive wars take a considerable amount of effort and coordination.

TDS also seems to be following the Pandemic Legion model of leadership. Phreeze states that there “is no rigid leadership figure. There is no despot or public figurehead to sling poo at, per se.” While Sort Dragon is involved as an alliance leader of Here Be Dragons, he might not be calling the shots for this new entity. However, as long as TDS leadership does not “care to comment on the inner working of the Squadron,” uncertainty will reign.

Phreeze did have a few things to say regarding TDS’s relationship with their neighbors:

The Dinner Squadron is a relatively small, local coalition. Far from being the bloated carcass of the HBC or the overbearing colossus of the CFC, TDS is simply invested in the cordial relations of its members and the vigorous defense of its territories. You won't see us declaring ‘war’ over any perceived slights, nor declaring a fatwa on Test and friends for withdrawing from the HBC. Most of our leadership and alliance remain on cordial terms with TEST and their leadership, with some exceptions of course.

The current membership of TDS, according to Phreeze, consists of The Initiative, Unclaimed, Cha Ching PLC, EntroPraetorian Aegis, Here Be Dragons, Insidious Empire, WALLTREIPERS ALLIANCE, Ethereal Dawn, and Orchestrated Alliance. Dingo’s list includes a few more, though, and Phreeze does admit that he might have left a few out. Additionally, the Squadron is most likely still in a state of flux, as it's still being created. A solid list might be a few weeks away.

In any case, TDS has a good amount of players; in the area of fifteen thousand different characters. The collapse of HBC triggered a vacuum that needed to be filled, and the remnants' successful coalescence into The Dinner Squad might make EVE nullsec a quad-polar world.

Writer. Twitter: @AlizabethVea