ALOD: The EVE Darwin Awards

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I have the Kestrel (Cluckfee's) killmail and know exactly who this is, lmao. Bring yourself back to EVE man.
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Shouldn´t the heron guy be the main subject of this article then?
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Make me space famous, Angry Mustache
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it's a grapevine thing, I saw the slasher guy's KM on EVE-kill, and first assumed this was another PLEX in space incident. then i got tipped off that it was actually a botched scoop from a gank. The ganker has blocked EVE-kill from pulling his kill history API to avoid too much publicity.I thought i would present the information in the same order that i acquired it. But the ALOD is not the slasher, it's all the plex carrying frigates that his main ganked.
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I don't understand how a guy can get so many other PLEX carrying idiots killed unless it's was staged.
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There are legitimate reasons to carry PLEX in space (market arbitrage), but never, ever, EVER in anything both profitable to gank and not cloaky.And so far as we're told, the PLEX that is destroyed in morons' cargo goes into Dr. E's stockpile for poking the economy. He surely has many more than needed, but it's not gone for good...ish.
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Carrying plex around is no dumber than moving officer/certain deadspace mods from point A to point B, and some people claim to make good money margin trading them between market hubs.Frigates (covert ops > daredevil/interceptors > everything else) are entirely the way to go with low-volume high-value items like PLEX. Unless you're stupid enough to start autopiloting or going AFK long enough while hauling expensive cargo for people to scan you down and pop you. There's literally no reason to die while hauling anything in highsec, but here we are.
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it should be noticed at every one of the dead frigates were untanked. If it were up to me, i would probably use a covert ops strategic cruiser.I still don't understand what's so hard about a NPC alt that sit in jita to buy PLEX and stuff, or even just a jump clone of an NPC alt.
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why would anyone want to have plex in a place other than jita?
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Doesn't really help if the guy who got ganked has their api on a killboard no?
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Because you can't move PLEX from Jita to Amarr by sitting in Jita, and JC standings are really hard to get. Strat cruisers are just as good as/better than a bomber, but you're still going to lose it when you go afk off the jita undock.edit: The only time I ever moved a plex was when I just used a shuttle to send plex to my spy account. I put the spy in a safespot, warped to it, jetcanned the plex, fleetwarp to 4-4 bookmark, dock. People are just dumb/lazy.
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Maybe they are reselling them in other regions?
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All Your PLEX Are Belong To Us . . . HAHAHA
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jump clones are stupidly easy to get, estel arador corp services lets you piggyback their standings for free.
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Thanks for the space fame, Angry. \o/
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i've never tried moving plex but surely a double wrap small container would do the trick?or cant you reverse redeem plex? then claim them again? so they are removed from game only to return to game after you get to desti?
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Reverse claim doesn't work like that anymore. If you reverse claim you can only reclaim at the same station.
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Doesn't look like it. The best I can get to after doing several minutes of KB and internet searching is this: http://eve-live.com/search/clu...
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You can purchase a PLEX on the market and then return it to the redeeming system, and redeem it somewhere else. This way you can relocate a PLEX from one place to another without any risk whatsoever.
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No. If you reverse-redeem a PLEX from the game into account management, you can only re-redeem it into the game on the station you reverse-redeemed it.Source: i tried.
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Ahhh right, thanks i didnt know that
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More through ignorance then laziness i would guess, I'm forever explaining to people about double wrapping there shit.
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Imagine you need to PLEX the account where you have a spy in a target corp. If they are any competent, they do regular API checks and will notice money transactions. Without actually paying real money for it, the only way is to jet a PLEX in space and scoop it - even station trades will be registered.So much for " there is absolutely zero reason to have PLEX anywhere outside of a safe and cozy station hanger"
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Indeed, but still - carrying them like that (unfit frigates FFS!) is terrible.
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Confirming this is the case (I've tried)
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You are dumb and should feel bad. The same alt that is ejecting it into space for you can also contract it to you for 10M ISK or whatever in order to make it look like a regular transaction. Still don't need to leave station.
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Holy shit, are you a time traveler from 10 years ago?
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Just put them in an unscannable (and not that easy to gank) covops. Why is this so hard? lol
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That's totally not a red flag. Yep.
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I double wrap everything... That way it doesn't tip people to my carrying of something valuable
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Because it's very hard to go check their loss mails ourselves. :)
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That would have been funny if you said 20 years ago.
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If you can afford to be moving 22b+ worth of plex arround. You can afford not to move it in anything less than a strat cruiser. Failing that a JF. Darwin is good, moving plex is bad.
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IMHO, the best way to move PLEX would be to send them via Red Frog Freight. run contracts with one or two of them per contract depending on the price. Now you have basically zero risk.
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For most people I know that gank, double wrap = instant pop.

I want you think of the most idiotic, most pointless, most mind bogglingly stupid action in EVE. No, it’s not officer pimping your mission boat, because that actually does increase your ISK per hour, however marginally. No it’s not jumping your super into a fight when DBRB tells you to, because you might get some killmails in return. It’s not even forgetting to pay your sov bills and losing all your space, because that allows you to purge useless carebears from your alliance and gives an opportunity to restructure.

It’s carrying PLEX in space.

Looking at the issue from every angle, there is absolutely zero reason to have PLEX anywhere outside of a safe and cozy station hanger. PLEX can be added to the account through the assets tab, meaning that you can activate a PLEX in Jita from anywhere in the galaxy. Furthermore, PLEX can be redeemed at any station, so getting PLEX to Jita is as simple as autopiloting an NPC noobship alt into 4-4, then redeeming safely in station. Even RMT money laundering schemes have turned away from PLEX as the preferred dead-drop, favoring Sleeper loot for its lower profile. While ISK damage from a “PLEX in space” incident may be less than the aforementioned disasters, it is the complete lack of any benefits that makes carrying PLEX the dumbest thing to do in EVE

Especially if you carry that PLEX in a frigate or shuttle.

Jita camper ReddBiff bagged this kill while semi-AFK, sitting off the undock with his tornado. When looking at the killmail, one might notice that ReddBiff’s tornado is not on the “related kills” list. That’s because ReddBiff did not have to go criminal to blap this Slasher.

[20:26:01] ReddBiff > All I know is that I locked a flashy suspect, zapped and then pulled up the km.

[20:26:12] ReddBiff > My stomach dropped a bit.

Indeed, FleshyVirus went suspect while carrying 38 PLEX.

But before you run off and send FleshyVirus EVE Mails stating how much of a retard he is, and how he should quit EVE, let me draw your attention to another killmail.

Hmm, the drop on that kill exactly matches what was in FleshyVirus’s cargohold.

There’s more to this story than meets the eye.

<--pagebreak-->Turns out, FleshyVirus is an alt account. The main account agreed to speak to me under the condition that he remain anonymous.

Indeed, the reason FleshyVirus went suspect is because he had just ganked Grigory Popov; he was not fast enough to avoid the insta-locking tornado and died as a result.  However, this is not the only gank of a PLEX carrying frigate that our friend has pulled.

In the span of one month, our ganker was able to nab 4 PLEX carrying frigates and shuttles (including a Kestrel and 2 noobships) with a combined 106 PLEX, worth roughly 55 billion isk or $1900, enough to buy two well-fitted supercarriers. However, none of the PLEX survived, as the PLEX from the Heron gank were lost when FleshyVirus’s own Slasher was ganked.

Allowing PLEX to be turned into an item, carried in a ship, and be destroyed is CCP’s greatest business decision. Whenever some moron undocks in a frigate with PLEX in his cargohold, Hilmar Petursson leans back on his throne of Kronas, and takes another sip from his glass of Brennivin.

 

Angry Mustache
Perpetually broke pilot of Goonswarm. Will shill for isk.